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I'm not a bears fan but I think there is some light discussion to be had, at least from tonight, pertaining to reactions from fans and media in a fan base and how quickly things can change...at least temporarily. Doing work on the couch tonight and having the game on and now post game, comments I am hearing are making me chuckle, especially since I was at the bulls game when the U.C crowd booed the picture of Trubisky when shown on the scoreboard.
So many little parallels I can identify with the Bulls and Bears at the moment...but I think I'll let the start of the discussion flow.................
So many little parallels I can identify with the Bulls and Bears at the moment...but I think I'll let the start of the discussion flow.................
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Well it should show in my post history that I had atleast been warming up to the move picking him. The thing that bothered me wasn't so much investing in a QB, but giving up all those picks that every draft analyst swears wasnt necessary. They could've just got him at 3 and kept those picks. But that being said, if he's good then we'll still forget pretty fast
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Anyone saying we could have gotten Trubisky at 3 is speculating. The trade was great for the bears - we got a potential franchise QB for a 1,3, and two 4th rd picks.
He looked better than great last night. Even after one game I think its stupid if Glennon is week one starter. Trubisky is clearly the best talent on our team by far at QB.
He looked better than great last night. Even after one game I think its stupid if Glennon is week one starter. Trubisky is clearly the best talent on our team by far at QB.
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I'm not ready to say Trubisky should be W1 starter, but I will say he does have legit NFL arm talent (this isn't always the case with first rd picks. Remember Cade McNown). If Trubisky continues to improve, Glennon had better come out firing because if he struggles, the drum will beat loudly for Trubisky.
Some of those throws he made, especially that one to Gentry (?) was beautiful.
Some of those throws he made, especially that one to Gentry (?) was beautiful.
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I bought a jersey 2 months ago. I'm not surprised he performed well.
He's going to have to get MUCH better though as teams will easily adjust to his go to out of pocket wrap around. Sure he has great accuracy on the move, but he needs to trust the pocket a bit more to not be so predictable.
He's going to have to get MUCH better though as teams will easily adjust to his go to out of pocket wrap around. Sure he has great accuracy on the move, but he needs to trust the pocket a bit more to not be so predictable.
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As someone who wanted Thomas or Adams, I was very surprised. Its preseason, but I was impressed that Trubisky had such good pocket presence. He was fluid, decisive, stood tall and put passes where his receivers stood the best chance. The game didn't look too fast for him.
This however, isn't a reaction to the game. I think the Bears are handling this situation terribly. To be naive and not acknowledge or entertain a QB competition in camp is bogus. It's not like Glennon is some proven starter who's earned the benefit of the doubt. We have no idea what we're getting from him. Chicago should start the QB who gives them the best chance to win.
Contrary to belief, that QB hasn't been determined yet. And my gut tells me that it's Trubisky. But Chicago is trying to do their best to convince people that a rookie QB should not start right away. I'll understand if Trubisky looks raw and unprepared, but if he looks the opposite as he did last night, you can't bench him.
This however, isn't a reaction to the game. I think the Bears are handling this situation terribly. To be naive and not acknowledge or entertain a QB competition in camp is bogus. It's not like Glennon is some proven starter who's earned the benefit of the doubt. We have no idea what we're getting from him. Chicago should start the QB who gives them the best chance to win.
Contrary to belief, that QB hasn't been determined yet. And my gut tells me that it's Trubisky. But Chicago is trying to do their best to convince people that a rookie QB should not start right away. I'll understand if Trubisky looks raw and unprepared, but if he looks the opposite as he did last night, you can't bench him.
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TeK wrote:I bought a jersey 2 months ago. I'm not surprised he performed well.
He's going to have to get MUCH better though as teams will easily adjust to his go to out of pocket wrap around. Sure he has great accuracy on the move, but he needs to trust the pocket a bit more to not be so predictable.
Leaving the pocket is much more unpredictable than staying in it fyi..
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Mbrahv0528 wrote:TeK wrote:I bought a jersey 2 months ago. I'm not surprised he performed well.
He's going to have to get MUCH better though as teams will easily adjust to his go to out of pocket wrap around. Sure he has great accuracy on the move, but he needs to trust the pocket a bit more to not be so predictable.
Leaving the pocket is much more unpredictable than staying in it fyi..
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Sure, but not if you roll right on every play you are not handing it off.
DuckIII wrote:As for New York (Knicks), they stunk because they stink and the roster looks disjointed and nonsensical because it is.
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stl705 wrote:Anyone saying we could have gotten Trubisky at 3 is speculating. The trade was great for the bears - we got a potential franchise QB for a 1,3, and two 4th rd picks.
He looked better than great last night. Even after one game I think its stupid if Glennon is week one starter. Trubisky is clearly the best talent on our team by far at QB.
1. Exactly, this needs to be put to bed. Pace traded back recouped picks and got Shaheen and Cohen who both look like mismatch nightmares for opposing teams.
2. Money Mitch should be starting game 3 of the preseason. Fox will lose his job if he doesn't play him and Bears lose with Glennon.
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Red Larrivee wrote:As someone who wanted Thomas or Adams, I was very surprised. Its preseason, but I was impressed that Trubisky had such good pocket presence. He was fluid, decisive, stood tall and put passes where his receivers stood the best chance. The game didn't look too fast for him.
This however, isn't a reaction to the game. I think the Bears are handling this situation terribly. To be naive and not acknowledge or entertain a QB competition in camp is bogus. It's not like Glennon is some proven starter who's earned the benefit of the doubt. We have no idea what we're getting from him. Chicago should start the QB who gives them the best chance to win.
Contrary to belief, that QB hasn't been determined yet. And my gut tells me that it's Trubisky. But Chicago is trying to do their best to convince people that a rookie QB should not start right away. I'll understand if Trubisky looks raw and unprepared, but if he looks the opposite as he did last night, you can't bench him.
Pace will make the right call and he won't let Fox mess this up. He already kept Fox in the dark about drafting Money Mitch because Fox has a reputation around the league of being a talker and leaker and Pace didn't want him leaking info.
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Red Larrivee wrote:As someone who wanted Thomas or Adams, I was very surprised. Its preseason, but I was impressed that Trubisky had such good pocket presence. He was fluid, decisive, stood tall and put passes where his receivers stood the best chance. The game didn't look too fast for him.
This however, isn't a reaction to the game. I think the Bears are handling this situation terribly. To be naive and not acknowledge or entertain a QB competition in camp is bogus. It's not like Glennon is some proven starter who's earned the benefit of the doubt. We have no idea what we're getting from him. Chicago should start the QB who gives them the best chance to win.
Contrary to belief, that QB hasn't been determined yet. And my gut tells me that it's Trubisky. But Chicago is trying to do their best to convince people that a rookie QB should not start right away. I'll understand if Trubisky looks raw and unprepared, but if he looks the opposite as he did last night, you can't bench him.
I think they're handling it very well. It's a lot harder and more problematic to go from Trubisky to Glennon that vice versa if things start to look bad. Also, and this is big, if Glennon plays pretty well, he becomes a real trade asset. If Trubisky starts from day 1, Glennon will have no trade value.
If it's obvious, which it might become, even before the start of the season, then sure you start Trubisky. And they might. But they need to maintain their stance until it's certain, which should take more than one pre-season game to determine. He looked great in highlights though. Very exciting.
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it was nice to finally see the fans, other players and reporters and pretty much anyone associated with the team cheering and having hope. he has the 'aw shucks' personality that fans love vs that attitude of many past qb's.
jerseys are gonna be flying off the shelves and fans screaming to see him. that's what this franchise needed badly so Ryan Pace was on to something. were trending up and people are talking about him. thats huge.
now before Trubitskys HOF ceremony takes place today - remember he faced the Broncos 2nd unit.
their starters treated Glennon like they did to Cam Newton in the SB not long ago.
but that 3rd unit full of guys doing anything to land roster spots gave him issues.
kid can scramble but that is not the path to a long NFL career.
can't wait for next weeks game and i can't say I've said that about a bears preseason game in at least a decade.
and I still think we should have drafted Deshaun Watson, but happy if Mitch proves me wrong
jerseys are gonna be flying off the shelves and fans screaming to see him. that's what this franchise needed badly so Ryan Pace was on to something. were trending up and people are talking about him. thats huge.
now before Trubitskys HOF ceremony takes place today - remember he faced the Broncos 2nd unit.
their starters treated Glennon like they did to Cam Newton in the SB not long ago.
but that 3rd unit full of guys doing anything to land roster spots gave him issues.
kid can scramble but that is not the path to a long NFL career.
can't wait for next weeks game and i can't say I've said that about a bears preseason game in at least a decade.
and I still think we should have drafted Deshaun Watson, but happy if Mitch proves me wrong
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The trade value shouldn't be a factor. It should really be about who is better. If Glennon looks worse throughout preseason and Trubisky looks good, it will make no sense to start Glennon.League Circles wrote:Red Larrivee wrote:As someone who wanted Thomas or Adams, I was very surprised. Its preseason, but I was impressed that Trubisky had such good pocket presence. He was fluid, decisive, stood tall and put passes where his receivers stood the best chance. The game didn't look too fast for him.
This however, isn't a reaction to the game. I think the Bears are handling this situation terribly. To be naive and not acknowledge or entertain a QB competition in camp is bogus. It's not like Glennon is some proven starter who's earned the benefit of the doubt. We have no idea what we're getting from him. Chicago should start the QB who gives them the best chance to win.
Contrary to belief, that QB hasn't been determined yet. And my gut tells me that it's Trubisky. But Chicago is trying to do their best to convince people that a rookie QB should not start right away. I'll understand if Trubisky looks raw and unprepared, but if he looks the opposite as he did last night, you can't bench him.
I think they're handling it very well. It's a lot harder and more problematic to go from Trubisky to Glennon that vice versa if things start to look bad. Also, and this is big, if Glennon plays pretty well, he becomes a real trade asset. If Trubisky starts from day 1, Glennon will have no trade value.
If it's obvious, which it might become, even before the start of the season, then sure you start Trubisky. And they might. But they need to maintain their stance until it's certain, which should take more than one pre-season game to determine. He looked great in highlights though. Very exciting.
I don't think you spend the #2 pick on a QB if he can't start immediately.
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Red Larrivee wrote:The trade value shouldn't be a factor. It should really be about who is better. If Glennon looks worse throughout preseason and Trubisky looks good, it will make no sense to start Glennon.League Circles wrote:Red Larrivee wrote:As someone who wanted Thomas or Adams, I was very surprised. Its preseason, but I was impressed that Trubisky had such good pocket presence. He was fluid, decisive, stood tall and put passes where his receivers stood the best chance. The game didn't look too fast for him.
This however, isn't a reaction to the game. I think the Bears are handling this situation terribly. To be naive and not acknowledge or entertain a QB competition in camp is bogus. It's not like Glennon is some proven starter who's earned the benefit of the doubt. We have no idea what we're getting from him. Chicago should start the QB who gives them the best chance to win.
Contrary to belief, that QB hasn't been determined yet. And my gut tells me that it's Trubisky. But Chicago is trying to do their best to convince people that a rookie QB should not start right away. I'll understand if Trubisky looks raw and unprepared, but if he looks the opposite as he did last night, you can't bench him.
I think they're handling it very well. It's a lot harder and more problematic to go from Trubisky to Glennon that vice versa if things start to look bad. Also, and this is big, if Glennon plays pretty well, he becomes a real trade asset. If Trubisky starts from day 1, Glennon will have no trade value.
If it's obvious, which it might become, even before the start of the season, then sure you start Trubisky. And they might. But they need to maintain their stance until it's certain, which should take more than one pre-season game to determine. He looked great in highlights though. Very exciting.
I don't think you spend the #2 pick on a QB if he can't start immediately.
I said if it's clear, Trubisky should start. We're not nearly at that point yet due to sample size. If it's close at all, you start with Glennon IMO.
As for #2 and starting immediately, that may be a reason not to draft someone at #2 (though I'd disagree as you hope the guy can start for maybe 12 years so a one year difference isn't that relevant), but it's not a reason to start him.
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I was very impressed with what I saw from him last night. I watched most of the game but did miss a little bit. I wanna see how he responds after getting hit a few times. He seemed pretty well protected for the most part last night.
I think he is good enough to start now, but I wouldn't. I don't see the point...this team is going to suck anyways. I would rather just let him sit back and learn until he is more prepared. Plus I wouldn't mind tanking into another good pick next year.
I think he is good enough to start now, but I wouldn't. I don't see the point...this team is going to suck anyways. I would rather just let him sit back and learn until he is more prepared. Plus I wouldn't mind tanking into another good pick next year.
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I wanted Adams but my main complaint since draft day was the notion that MItch was going to redshirt . The fastest way for him to develop is by getting reps and the chart that development is by playing .
I dont mind Mitch being 3rd string early like this a it will endear him to his teammates and they will know that once he starts he will have earned . Now you take the next step and move him up to #2 so he will get increased reps and hopefully Glennon just had the first game jitters and plays better to take some of the pressure off .
I will say that Mitchs accuracy and mobility was a welcome sight and really made a huge difference in the offense as I was looking at how awesome Howard and Cohen are going to be I couldnt help but think how much better Kapernick wouldve been in this offense over Glennon on those naked bootlegs alone . So I am very happy to see Mitch has some wheels and good instincts because those Play actions bootlegs are gonna be our bread and butter with the running game we have .
I dont mind Mitch being 3rd string early like this a it will endear him to his teammates and they will know that once he starts he will have earned . Now you take the next step and move him up to #2 so he will get increased reps and hopefully Glennon just had the first game jitters and plays better to take some of the pressure off .
I will say that Mitchs accuracy and mobility was a welcome sight and really made a huge difference in the offense as I was looking at how awesome Howard and Cohen are going to be I couldnt help but think how much better Kapernick wouldve been in this offense over Glennon on those naked bootlegs alone . So I am very happy to see Mitch has some wheels and good instincts because those Play actions bootlegs are gonna be our bread and butter with the running game we have .
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I was ok with the trade and reason for trading up, just didn't like Trubisky that much. I'm glad he played well, looked comfortable going thru his progressions.
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I know its way to early... but after everything we have read and a little of what we have seen we know Trubisky has starter level talent and is very accurate. Now it about reps, coverages, schemes, responding to pressure and picks. The kid is a humble grinder. He will get it and quickly too IMO.
If he is starter level. Lets say the 25th best QB in the league this year... the Bears are sniffing the playoffs. Our D will be top 7. Our running game will be top 10. We finally have depth across the roster.
I think Shaheen and Cohen give us something we haven't had... mismatches. I think with them Money Mitch can be a game manager and get them the ball in space on simple screens etc. and we will score enough to win. Meredith, White, or Wright flash and we will have a top 15 offense.
If he is starter level. Lets say the 25th best QB in the league this year... the Bears are sniffing the playoffs. Our D will be top 7. Our running game will be top 10. We finally have depth across the roster.
I think Shaheen and Cohen give us something we haven't had... mismatches. I think with them Money Mitch can be a game manager and get them the ball in space on simple screens etc. and we will score enough to win. Meredith, White, or Wright flash and we will have a top 15 offense.
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Looked pretty good but I think he already knew his target before the snap. Would like to see him make some decisions