OT Why didn’t we draft Deshaun Watson (Bears)

[jacoby1us]

Does anyone care to elaborate on this logic?

[BullHeaded]

1. They don't hand out crystal balls to GMs. If it was understood that Watson's skills would translate so quickly to the NFL, he probably would have been a Cleveland Brown with the first pick or a 49er with the second pick.

2. In drills leading up to the draft, Watson had one of the weakest arms of the major draft prospects (they looked at MPH of the balls).

3. He also wasn't as accurate of a passer.

4. Trubisky was the most accurate passer by a mile in this draft while also having the mobility of Watson.

The Bears drafted Trubisky... we cannot go back and redo the draft. So we may as well let his career play out a little bit before we tear our hair out about not having the player doing the best right out of the box. With better offensive game plans and a receiver or two, Trubisky may be a legit soul-eating qb. We saw him light up the pre-season (ending with the highest adjusted completion percentage according to PFF).

[RedBulls23]

Moving this to the Bears board.

Because Pace wanted Trubisky. When working him out, Mitch was able to make every throw and hit every target they asked of him. They were also impressed with his maturity.

We truly won't know if the pick is good for couple of years.

I also wanted Watson, but let's not act like a few good games or even one season is enough to know if a QB is the right answer long term or better than another. We have seen guys start out well and then fall off, and then guys that start out slow end up being ones that stick around.

[Jeffster81]

I wanted nothing to do with Watson. Trubisky has the higher ceiling and once the organization get him some damn WR that can, you know, catch the ball, you will see why the Bears prefer Trubisky over Watson.

[fleet]

At the risk of replying in a duplicate thread, (maybe it'll get merged) I will say this. After liking him before the draft, I am still concerned with how the Bears are using him. I expected more out of him, and am a little curious what the Bears are using for this decision. I realize their are 'circumstances' which indicate such kid gloves may be warranted. But still, this is almost the way you would play a QB that isn't that good. Even though these 'circumstances' are real factors, if he was all that, he also could at least be allowed to cut his own meat and tie his own shoes out there. Good grief.

[the ultimates]

If Watson was throwing to Gentry, McBride and Wright you wouldn't be asking this question. Not even in the NFL can coaching and game planning make up for a severe lack of talent at certain positions.

[IcemanGervin]

Will Fuller would be Jerry Rice on the Bears. Hell Braxton Miller would be far and away the #1 WR here. I love Deshaun, but Mitch has shown his ability as well but the results obviously are different based on Houston's weapons and offensive scheme.

There are multiple throws by Trubisky each game where I find myself saying "yea an actual NFL wide receiver would have caught that ball."

[Red Larrivee]

Watson looks a lot better than I gave him credit for. It's important to remember that he is a more experienced QB than Trubisky, who only started one season in college. Also, Watson is throwing to a Pro Bowl WR, a first round pick and has a better coaching staff.

Systems matter in the NFL and the Texans have found theirs with Watson.

[Susan]

At the risk of replying in a duplicate thread, (maybe it'll get merged) I will say this. After liking him before the draft, I am still concerned with how the Bears are using him. I expected more out of him, and am a little curious what the Bears are using for this decision. I realize their are 'circumstances' which indicate such kid gloves may be warranted. But still, this is almost the way you would play a QB that isn't that good. Even though these 'circumstances' are real factors, if he was all that, he also could at least be allowed to cut his own meat and tie his own shoes out there. Good grief.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RoetBe00/gamelog/2004/

He had Hines Ward, Plaxico and Randel El. This isn't Dak where you're giving a rookie an elite line, an elite back (ours are good) a top 10 WR in Dez and a HOF TE.

[CjayC]

It kinda helps when your receivers can actually create some space. The Texans pass catchers have the lowest drop rate in the league. Compare that to our bums that are making routine routes look difficult. Talent & scheme matter in the NFL. Even Rodgers & Brady have at times been stifled when Nelson or Edelman/Gronk/etc... have been out of the lineup.

Also let's not act like 1 year makes a career. He wasn't drafted baseed on what he can do in year 1. They weren't even expecting him to start until after the bye week.

[chitownsports4ever]

Watson is a stud and a lot of people knew this before the draft and talking about scheme and who he is surrounded with is almost irrelevant at this point people were claiming they didnt want Watson because he didn't have an arm and " cant make all the throws " but that guy is out there slinging that ball over the field and making a tremendous amount of plays .

That guy has elevated that scheme and the play of everyone around him . Hes out there smiling and having fun and looks nothing like a typical rookie qb most of the time and looks as though the game is moving in slow motion for him. Also last nights game was IN Seattle so I think at this point hes proving himself to be a special player. The guy threw a td on the first drive a pick 6 on the second and it looked as though the wheels were about come off and he came right back and responded like a boss.

[NZB2323]

I can understand why we took Trubisky, but did we really have to trade all those picks to move up a spot? If Trubisky wasn't there at 3 then we take Watson.

[jacoby1us]

Thanks for the merge and input, Bears leadership/management have shown that they are quite incompetent when scouting. Can someone please for the love of whatever higher being you pray to tell me why the Bears signed Glennon to that salary to turn around and draft a QB (typically a franchise QB) in the 1st round? This salary could have been utilized to actually pay a reputable WR since they cut the often injured V. Cruz.

I understand we are rebuilding and all but their direction is not clear cut, quite similar to the Chicago Bulls.

[Dominator83]

As of now it looks pretty bad, but we'll see. If guys like Prescott and Watson were drafted by the Bears they would not look as good. Bears have the worst receiving core in their league probably by far

[warmonger]

Watson is a flat out stud. Trubisky is the typical underwhelming Chicago Bears draft pick.

[chitownsports4ever]

I can understand why we took Trubisky, but did we really have to trade all those picks to move up a spot? If Trubisky wasn't there at 3 then we take Watson.

Its like we outsmarted ourselves on the offensives side of the ball

Instead of Glennon resign Hoyer for half that

Franchise Alshon and hold onto him for one year and dont let him walk for nothing to try and teach him a lesson

trade down a couple of spots and pick up another pick in the 2nd or 3rd

draft watson in the 1st
Juju schuster in the 2nd insurance for Alshon and White
with the extra pick you are still in position to grab your Cohen,Jackson,and Shaheen

Wouldnt it have been great to have those extra dollars to Bowman considering our injuries at LB this year and him getting released by the Niners ?

Nothing fancy here just a little bit of practicality

[jacoby1us]

I can understand why we took Trubisky, but did we really have to trade all those picks to move up a spot? If Trubisky wasn't there at 3 then we take Watson.

Its like we outsmarted ourselves on the offensives side of the ball

Instead of Glennon resign Hoyer for half that

Franchise Alshon and hold onto him for one year and dont let him walk for nothing to try and teach him a lesson

trade down a couple of spots and pick up another pick in the 2nd or 3rd

draft watson in the 1st
Juju schuster in the 2nd insurance for Alshon and White
with the extra pick you are still in position to grab your Cohen,Jackson,and Shaheen

Wouldnt it have been great to have those extra dollars to Bowman considering our injuries at LB this year and him getting released by the Niners ?

Nothing fancy here just a little bit of practicality

Thanks for the insight on what could have been some potential moves made here, reflections sometimes sucks!

[CjayC]

Watson is a stud and a lot of people knew this before the draft and talking about scheme and who he is surrounded with is almost irrelevant at this point people were claiming they didnt want Watson because he didn't have an arm and " cant make all the throws " but that guy is out there slinging that ball over the field and making a tremendous amount of plays .

That guy has elevated that scheme and the play of everyone around him . Hes out there smiling and having fun and looks nothing like a typical rookie qb most of the time and looks as though the game is moving in slow motion for him. Also last nights game was IN Seattle so I think at this point hes proving himself to be a special player. The guy threw a td on the first drive a pick 6 on the second and it looked as though the wheels were about come off and he came right back and responded like a boss.

Not a lot of people within the NFL did otherwise Andy Reid wouldn't have passed on him for a project, Hue Jackson passed on him twice, Kyle Shanahan passed on him, and the Jets with a dire need at QB passed on him. Those are reputed QB whisperers, and the Jets always need a QB like we do.

His flaws at Clemson were ugly. Staring guys down off the snap a lot, Clemson's O only required him to read half the field at a time, and accuracy issues. The arm strength concerns didn't show up on long vertical routes where his receivers almost always had a step. It was more like watch him make a timing window throw from the opposite hash and the ball takes longer than it should to get there. That combined with with the radar gun at the combine gave people some concerns. However, what people didn''t understand is that test isn't guys throwing in front of a radar gun trying to put all of their arm into the throw. They register the MPH of the throw while they are throwing to the receivers at the combine. Just because Watson didn't hit 55 MPH at the combine throwing to unfamiliar receivers doesn't mean he can't throw 55 MPH at all. You're considered undraftable if you can't hit 55 MPH at all, and most of these guys can hit that if they have good timing/familiarity with their receivers or if they're just trying to fling a ball with all of their arm strength.

Scheme and talent is irrelevent lol what? Talent and coaching doesn't matter?

Hopkins has been a Top 5-10 WR for the last 3 years, Fuller was a 1st round pick and has special speed. Bill O Brien has scrapped running a lot of the Erhardt-Perkins O and gone back to more of the spread and smash concept stuff that was working for Watson in college. Watson has played a huge part in uplifting the Texans O to what it should finally look like on paper, but talent & coaching doesn't mean anything? Having receivers that can create decent sized cushions against the D, and having a coach that realizes he needs to trash what he doesn't need in his offense to get the most out of Watson is irrelevant?

[nitetrain8603]

1. They don't hand out crystal balls to GMs. If it was understood that Watson's skills would translate so quickly to the NFL, he probably would have been a Cleveland Brown with the first pick or a 49er with the second pick.

2. In drills leading up to the draft, Watson had one of the weakest arms of the major draft prospects (they looked at MPH of the balls).

3. He also wasn't as accurate of a passer.

4. Trubisky was the most accurate passer by a mile in this draft while also having the mobility of Watson.

The Bears drafted Trubisky... we cannot go back and redo the draft. So we may as well let his career play out a little bit before we tear our hair out about not having the player doing the best right out of the box. With better offensive game plans and a receiver or two, Trubisky may be a legit soul-eating qb. We saw him light up the pre-season (ending with the highest adjusted completion percentage according to PFF).

Disagree on some of this stuff. It was known that Watson was a big game QB and that he was the most ready QB prospect of the top 3. The 49ers have been rumored to be enamored with Kirk Cousins and he's just biding his time until this offseason which is why they didn't draft a QB at all.

With Watson, I don't think accuracy was so much the question as was his decision making (he would get tunnel vision which many QBs do early on) because of his knack for pre-determining where he was going with the ball before the snap. No, this wasn't a result of reading defenes (or lack thereof), but he was known to throw the ball to his favorites at times in college no matter what. Gruden actually called this out on his QB camp. As you can see, he can read defenses.

As a non-Bears fan, all I can say is this - there were other teams who have passed on Watson. Also, look at the organizations they each went to. For Watson, it appeared that a QB was the missing link. For the Bears, they need almost everything on offense. Even their line which many thought would be top third of the league looks sloppy to me.

[City of Trees]

The Bears took a top QB prospect... I Think the real question is why didnt the Browns draft Watson?

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