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The WR Situation 

Post#1 » by Chi town » Thu Nov 9, 2017 3:33 am

So I’m thinking...

Meredith Will be back... good potential

White Will be back... maybe he doesn’t get hurt... finally

Inman... hoping he plays well and will be back

Wright... don’t think he will bbe back... he can get more snaps and targets elsewhere


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Thinking Landry... he will want a QB and targets


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Post#2 » by Truebiscuit » Thu Nov 9, 2017 5:38 pm

Landry has a huge attitude problem, I would probably pass on him.

I love Meredith as a #2 and Kendall Wright as a #3

Kevin White... you simply can't rely on him anymore, I'd keep him as a #4 and if he earns a higher spot through his play and being healthy, so be it.


A name I love in FA? Allen Robinson. He's coming off a torn ACL, but it was clean and he should be ready to go by camp. That dude is a S-T-U-D.

1 - Robinson
2 - Meredith
3 - Wright
4- White
5 - Inman

I can live with that
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Post#3 » by Red Larrivee » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:43 am

I want Allen Robinson or Sammy Watkins. I want a player who is a possession receiver, creates separation and can do more. Both players fit the bill, though Robinson is coming off an ACL injury. Watkins is being underused in Los Angeles.

I'm not interested in paying big bucks to a slot receiver who runs underneath routes (Landry). Kendall Wright can do that for a fraction of the price.
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Post#4 » by Truebiscuit » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:33 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:I want Allen Robinson or Sammy Watkins. I want a player who is a possession receiver, creates separation and can do more. Both players fit the bill, though Robinson is coming off an ACL injury. Watkins is being underused in Los Angeles.

I'm not interested in paying big bucks to a slot receiver who runs underneath routes (Landry). Kendall Wright can do that for a fraction of the price.


Dude. Yes.

Allen Robinson is a STUD.

Watkins... he just reminds me of a more polished Kevin White. Not sure I'd break the bank for him, especially considering his health.
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Post#5 » by transplant » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:18 pm

The Bears need a Brandon Marshall-type receiver who lacks Marshall's negative baggage. You guys figure out who to get and how to get him...just get him.
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Post#6 » by Red Larrivee » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:22 pm

transplant wrote:The Bears need a Brandon Marshall-type receiver who lacks Marshall's negative baggage. You guys figure out who to get and how to get him...just get him.


Allen Robinson is the closest to that.

If we could get Robinson or Watkins, get Meredith back healthy and find a deep threat, I think we'll be in business.
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Post#7 » by City of Trees » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:12 am

Robinson is on the top of my list

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Post#8 » by chitownsports4ever » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:44 am

Robinson will more than likely be signed or tagged hes basically their top priority heading into the offseason .

I wouldn't bother with Watkins unless he comes at a GREAT price.

Landry is a slot

The pickings are gonna be slim so lets Innman shows enough and Meredith comes back healthy next season

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Re: The WR Situation 

Post#9 » by Chi town » Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:26 am

Great read. Parker from Packers and Richardson from Seahawks. Also future coach candidates... Carmichael OC from Paces Saints.

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/11/21/16685036/chicago-bears-mailbag-mitchell-trubisky-john-fox-pete-carmichael-jordan-howard-tarik-cohen-nfl-2017

BTW... zeglinksi IMO is best Bears writer besides Jahns and dabearsblog
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Post#10 » by City of Trees » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:11 am

Calvin Ridley is WR1 for me. He's better than Amari Cooper, too.

Next is Sutton followed by Kirk.

Kirk reminds me of Golden Tate.

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Post#11 » by Red Larrivee » Sat Dec 2, 2017 5:03 pm

Alshon got $27 million guaranteed on a four-year, $52 million extension with the Eagles. That's the type of money we're looking at to pay for a WR in free agency.
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Post#12 » by City of Trees » Sun Dec 3, 2017 7:31 am

Red Larrivee wrote:Alshon got $27 million guaranteed on a four-year, $52 million extension with the Eagles. That's the type of money we're looking at to pay for a WR in free agency.

Yep. Its too bad Alshon didn't rake that money from Chicago but I can't fault Alston because CHI didnt have a QB.

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Post#13 » by chitownsports4ever » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:45 pm

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Red Larrivee wrote:Alshon got $27 million guaranteed on a four-year, $52 million extension with the Eagles. That's the type of money we're looking at to pay for a WR in free agency.

Yep. Its too bad Alshon didn't rake that money from Chicago but I can't fault Alston because CHI didnt have a QB.

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Pace could've franchised Alshon again instead of letting him test the market to teach him a lesson and then he would've had 8 months to get to know Mitch and change his mind about that deal .Thats just bad managment
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Post#14 » by Chi town » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:58 am

chitownsports4ever wrote:
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Red Larrivee wrote:Alshon got $27 million guaranteed on a four-year, $52 million extension with the Eagles. That's the type of money we're looking at to pay for a WR in free agency.

Yep. Its too bad Alshon didn't rake that money from Chicago but I can't fault Alston because CHI didnt have a QB.

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Pace could've franchised Alshon again instead of letting him test the market to teach him a lesson and then he would've had 8 months to get to know Mitch and change his mind about that deal .Thats just bad managment


Pace gave him offers. Alshon wanted to leave and demanded 15M per. I wouldn't have given him that money. Do you really want a pissed off player that was just suspended for 4 games for taking roids too?

Bears were not guaranteed to get Mitch either. I think Pace made the right call. What makes it look questionable is your top two WR's being injured for the year in pre season.
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Post#15 » by chitownsports4ever » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:45 am

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City of Trees wrote:Yep. Its too bad Alshon didn't rake that money from Chicago but I can't fault Alston because CHI didnt have a QB.

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Pace could've franchised Alshon again instead of letting him test the market to teach him a lesson and then he would've had 8 months to get to know Mitch and change his mind about that deal .Thats just bad managment


Pace gave him offers. Alshon wanted to leave and demanded 15M per. I wouldn't have given him that money. Do you really want a pissed off player that was just suspended for 4 games for taking roids too?

Bears were not guaranteed to get Mitch either. I think Pace made the right call. What makes it look questionable is your top two WR's being injured for the year in pre season.



Pace allegedly offered Alshon about 8.5 and when did jeffrey say he wanted to be the leagues highest paid receiver ?because thats what demanding 15 million per year would've been .

Alshon first Franchise tag was 14.6 which is the average of the top salaries at the position

Who cares if he is mad and why would he be mad about getting 16 million for one year and then becoming a free agent ? You relinquish your rights to your best wideout because he might be mad ...yeah you and Pace are the only ones that thinks thats a good idea especially when you backup plan involves an UDFA and a guy who has been injured his first 2 years in the league.

We let Alshon waltz right on over to the eagles who paid him what ? 13.5 million per year on his extension as he helped them win the division and now we are going to have to go and pay someone to come in and do what he does which is going to cost as much or even more as the cap increases.

As I said you franchise Alshon because that was the best thing for the Bears organization for this year why ? because we had cap space and no real plan for replacement so you put it off for a year until you had time to plan for it .
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Post#16 » by Chi town » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:30 pm

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Pace could've franchised Alshon again instead of letting him test the market to teach him a lesson and then he would've had 8 months to get to know Mitch and change his mind about that deal .Thats just bad managment


Pace gave him offers. Alshon wanted to leave and demanded 15M per. I wouldn't have given him that money. Do you really want a pissed off player that was just suspended for 4 games for taking roids too?

Bears were not guaranteed to get Mitch either. I think Pace made the right call. What makes it look questionable is your top two WR's being injured for the year in pre season.



Pace allegedly offered Alshon about 8.5 and when did jeffrey say he wanted to be the leagues highest paid receiver ?because thats what demanding 15 million per year would've been .

Alshon first Franchise tag was 14.6 which is the average of the top salaries at the position

Who cares if he is mad and why would he be mad about getting 16 million for one year and then becoming a free agent ? You relinquish your rights to your best wideout because he might be mad ...yeah you and Pace are the only ones that thinks thats a good idea especially when you backup plan involves an UDFA and a guy who has been injured his first 2 years in the league.

We let Alshon waltz right on over to the eagles who paid him what ? 13.5 million per year on his extension as he helped them win the division and now we are going to have to go and pay someone to come in and do what he does which is going to cost as much or even more as the cap increases.

As I said you franchise Alshon because that was the best thing for the Bears organization for this year why ? because we had cap space and no real plan for replacement so you put it off for a year until you had time to plan for it .


You are forgetting his 4 game roids suspension and the small injuries that made him miss games.

Most guys get pissed when they get franchises the second year because they want a long term deal with more guaranteed money.

I think Paces call was 50/50 and he believed Cam Meredith would replace Jeffrey. I think he would have been better than Jeffrey if healthy this year.
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Post#17 » by chitownsports4ever » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:53 pm

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You are forgetting his 4 game roids suspension and the small injuries that made him miss games.

Most guys get pissed when they get franchises the second year because they want a long term deal with more guaranteed money.

I think Paces call was 50/50 and he believed Cam Meredith would replace Jeffrey. I think he would have been better than Jeffrey if healthy this year.


Pace himself even dismissed his suspension as a simple mistake and they were not worried about that being an issue going forward .

Prior to that Alshon had a soft tissue that lingered for some weeks the year before but before that he was fine and the made the pro bowl

Cams best games came opposite of Alshon so how was he gonna replace Alshon or be better than Alshon when he hadnt shown he was anywhere near a #1 that was a hope but nobody dumps pro bowler caliber players in the nfl on just hope alone which is why you franchise him let Meredith give you a full season and then you let Alshon walk if you want .

Alshon wouldve been made at staying with the Bears for 16 million but went and took a 9.5 million one year deal from the eagles ?

Pace should've franchised him again and left a deal similar to the one the eagles gave him on the table and if he didnt want it after working with Mitch for a few months he couldve walked but we at least wouldnt have a had a huge hole in the offense the way we do now . With the way they are stacking that box that decision is costing the Bears games
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Post#18 » by Chi town » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:19 pm

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You are forgetting his 4 game roids suspension and the small injuries that made him miss games.

Most guys get pissed when they get franchises the second year because they want a long term deal with more guaranteed money.

I think Paces call was 50/50 and he believed Cam Meredith would replace Jeffrey. I think he would have been better than Jeffrey if healthy this year.


Pace himself even dismissed his suspension as a simple mistake and they were not worried about that being an issue going forward .

Prior to that Alshon had a soft tissue that lingered for some weeks the year before but before that he was fine and the made the pro bowl

Cams best games came opposite of Alshon so how was he gonna replace Alshon or be better than Alshon when he hadnt shown he was anywhere near a #1 that was a hope but nobody dumps pro bowler caliber players in the nfl on just hope alone which is why you franchise him let Meredith give you a full season and then you let Alshon walk if you want .

Alshon wouldve been made at staying with the Bears for 16 million but went and took a 9.5 million one year deal from the eagles ?

Pace should've franchised him again and left a deal similar to the one the eagles gave him on the table and if he didnt want it after working with Mitch for a few months he couldve walked but we at least wouldnt have a had a huge hole in the offense the way we do now . With the way they are stacking that box that decision is costing the Bears games


Good points. The stack boxed hurts because Fox is an idiot and runs right into it and then passes on 3 and 12... everytime.

Alshon would have def helped Money Mitch... but we didn't know at that time that we would have Mitch. Obviously he helps Glennon too but no one can really help Glennon from not sucking.
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Post#19 » by patryk7754 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:29 pm

I think we can rule out Watkins. I was reading an article where someone asked what was the biggest difference was for Watkins after the trade to the Rams. He said the weather so even the rams decide not to bring him back he won't be signing with a cold weather team
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Post#20 » by patryk7754 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:29 pm

I think we can rule out Watkins. I was reading an article where someone asked what was the biggest difference was for Watkins after the trade to the Rams. He said the weather so even the rams decide not to bring him back he won't be signing with a cold weather team

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