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Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:32 pm
by patryk7754
Thought I should make a thread about what's going on with Fangio
Packers and Raven have gotten DCs so we can take them off the list of threats
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:56 pm
by patryk7754
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:18 am
by Axxo
Whats taking so long? Just pay the man....
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:03 pm
by patryk7754
Axxo wrote:Whats taking so long? Just pay the man....
He’s obviously talking to other teams. It’s probably not just about the money for him
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:35 pm
by Axxo
patryk7754 wrote:Axxo wrote:Whats taking so long? Just pay the man....
He’s obviously talking to other teams. It’s probably not just about the money for him
Oh abit angry for not getting the HC gig here? Are these other teams interviewing him for HC or just DC....?
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:54 pm
by CjayC
I doubt he's mad over that. I think he's smart enough to know that older lifetime defensive guys rarely become head coaches in todays game. Nobody else is beating his door down to hire them as their head coach.
It was rumored he did ask was his head coach interview just a courtesy.
I don't see him leaving. The remaining options for defensive coordinators like the Giants, and Colts have to pretty much rebuild on defense. Also at 60 years old, I really doubt he's trying to relocate from a destination city in Chicago and do it all over again.
If he leaves then he and Pace really must have had a strong disagreement, but bring on Betcher for a year if they can get him before he gets his head coach job.
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:53 am
by Susan
I can deal with this. Fangio was rumored to want to go to somewhere warm. Bettcher is a really hot name and Arizona's defense has been quite good for his tenure.
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:08 am
by City of Trees
Bettcher seems to be a good plan B if Fangio is set on leaving.
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Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:10 pm
by Axxo
Susan wrote:I can deal with this. Fangio was rumored to want to go to somewhere warm. Bettcher is a really hot name and Arizona's defense has been quite good for his tenure.
Bettcher is in play for the HC position in Ariz. He is Arains recommended replacement and he still has a year left on his contract. I think this another one of Pace's diversionary tactics.
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:20 pm
by heir_jordan22
All I know about Bettcher is he rose in the coaching ranks pretty quickly and his players in Arizona are ridiculously talented. I'm sure it'll be a bit of an adjustment because there is a clear downgrade in our defensive talent compared to what Arizona has had for the last several years
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:07 pm
by karch34
DL, I'd say we're clearly better. LB were definitely worse as Jones, Reddick, Bucannon, and Dansby is very good quartet. Secondary they have Peterson as a clear star, but I'd kind of put it as a push. So not as good, but not a huge step down either. One thing in Betcher's favor is he realized Cooper sucked at CB.
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:11 pm
by Susan
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:15 pm
by transplant
Susan wrote:BEAR DOWN!!!!!
From Biggs' article:
"Fangio returned from the West Coast early Wednesday and was in discussions with the team that day. The sides continued to talk, and an agreement was reached Friday, giving the Bears a full set of coordinators after Nagy previously hired Mark Helfrich for offense and Chris Tabor for special teams."
You got there before me, Susan, but this is great news.
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:21 pm
by RedBulls23
Susan wrote:BEAR DOWN!!!!!
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:42 pm
by Susan
transplant wrote:Susan wrote:BEAR DOWN!!!!!
From Biggs' article:
"Fangio returned from the West Coast early Wednesday and was in discussions with the team that day. The sides continued to talk, and an agreement was reached Friday, giving the Bears a full set of coordinators after Nagy previously hired Mark Helfrich for offense and Chris Tabor for special teams."
You got there before me, Susan, but this is great news.
This coaching staff seems to be so strong (and I don't think we'll see Fangio run away to another team to become a HC anytime soon).
Pace seems to know exactly what he wants and was able to make it happen. Both him and Nagy seem to be 100% lockstep right now, so we'll see if they're both just insanely confident or really freaking get it.
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:43 pm
by transplant
I've been watching the Bears since '63. With few exceptions (e.g., Jim Finks), Bears management have always seemed to be a step behind the competition. Kudos to Ryan Pace...he's been a step ahead throughout the Fox-Nagy transition.
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:48 pm
by Red Larrivee
Gotta give credit to Pace and Nagy here. This staff looks strong on paper. We get to keep our defensive continuity and reinvent offense with strong minds.
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:48 pm
by RedBulls23
Now Pace just needs to fill out the holes on this roster and have a strong draft.
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:09 pm
by heir_jordan22
karch34 wrote:DL, I'd say we're clearly better. LB were definitely worse as Jones, Reddick, Bucannon, and Dansby is very good quartet. Secondary they have Peterson as a clear star, but I'd kind of put it as a push. So not as good, but not a huge step down either. One thing in Betcher's favor is he realized Cooper sucked at CB.
Tyrann Mathieu, Budda Baker, Calais Campbell (all pro this year with JAX), just to name a few who were clearly very very talented.
But I will give him credit for developing Tony Jefferson, who was a late round pick.
Re: Vic Fangio Watch
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:11 pm
by heir_jordan22
Very exciting news! I've always thought Fangio is one of the top 5 best DCs year in and year out. Hopefully we get him a couple more pieces and he takes the defense to top 5 level.