Grossman Comparison...

[Chi]

Who do you see Rex Grossman (Good Rex) at his best, compared to amoungst other QB's and why?

I see him as the brett Farve type. Strong arm, Constantly taking risks with his throws.

Agree/ Disagree? What is your comparison for Good Rex

[Joe Jackson]

Please just leave Brett Favre out of it!
I know you said "type", but the whole idea of comparing him to Favre has always been fallacious and almost certainly always will be.

On the other hand, if he could learn to hold onto the ball(speaking of hands) and be a little more consistent in passing to his own receivers instead of the opponents he might become a pretty good facsimile of Jim McMahon. And maybe a little more durable than McMahon who was always banged up and dinged, as opposed to Rex who stays pretty healthy except for the major type injuries he suffered the first couple years.
And that would be pretty damn good. Good enough to win the Bears a couple Super Bowls and him a couple Pro Bowls along the way I'd say.

[El Ridda]

A young Vinny T.

[Jello Biafra]

Kinda hard to tell at this point. He's his own player. Short. Strong armed. Incapable of admitting fault without stupid excuses. Capable of making huge plays, and huge f-ups. Farve like, with out the huge arm, the legs, the likable personality, more fumbles, less ints. Needs someone to tell him to be less defiant of his critics. Its a hard lesson to be learned. Humility. If he were more self deprecating, he'd be loved and revered as the best QB this city has ever had, which he quite possibly could be.

[HINrichPolice]

Kinda hard to tell at this point. He's his own player. Short. Strong armed. Incapable of admitting fault without stupid excuses. Capable of making huge plays, and huge f-ups. Farve like, with out the huge arm, the legs, the likable personality, more fumbles, less ints. Needs someone to tell him to be less defiant of his critics. Its a hard lesson to be learned. Humility. If he were more self deprecating, he'd be loved and revered as the best QB this city has ever had, which he quite possibly could be.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not a hardcore Bears fan like I am a Bulls fan, but I have increased my interest in NFL football over the past 3 years.


The idea that Rex needs to be more humble or choose to be more self deprecating seems to imply that he's cocky and/or unwilling to admit the need to improve.

From my possibly uninformed opinion, Rex seems to be very humble and self deprecating, but not outwardly towards Chicago media and fans. Inside, he knows just how much of an F-up he can be. I'm sure that he chooses to show "confident Rex" to the public so that fans can retain some sort of semblance of confidence that he'll be the QB we all have seen flashes of.

Jello, I also think that if Rex took up your suggestion of how he should present himself to fans/media, then we'd simply say that Rex is a mental midget that can't deal with the pressures of being an NFL quarterback, no? It's a lose-lose situation for Rex. The only remedy is to win a Super Bowl, and that's a pretty tall task and in many ways, unfair situation for him.

[emperorjones]

he might become a pretty good facsimile of Jim McMahon.

I can't think of one thing they have in common. That comparison would never have come to me. what do you see in Rex that reminds you of McMahon?

[Chi]

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I can't think of one thing they have in common. That comparison would never have come to me. what do you see in Rex that reminds you of McMahon?

They both played for the Chicago Bears... lol

[Joe Jackson]

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I can't think of one thing they have in common. That comparison would never have come to me. what do you see in Rex that reminds you of McMahon?

size
strong arm
generally good passer (accuracy etc.)
decision making and risk taking
confidence and bravado
somewhat limited speed and mobility
fragile (McMahon was and Rex had a bad start)
leadership ability
cocky personalities

[Jello Biafra]

Jello, I also think that if Rex took up your suggestion of how he should present himself to fans/media, then we'd simply say that Rex is a mental midget that can't deal with the pressures of being an NFL quarterback, no? It's a lose-lose situation for Rex. The only remedy is to win a Super Bowl, and that's a pretty tall task and in many ways, unfair situation for him.

I disagree. If he would only man up and say "Its my fault for fumbling two snaps. There's no excuse. I'll work on it and that's all there is to it." Instead of "Well, I had sweat coming down my arm" or "The refs should have called illegal motion" the media and fans would have more respect.

He made his bed when he called the media ignorant. (Everybody knows the media is ignorant. Instead of calling them ignorant, you allow them to ask stupid questions and make themselves look ignorant, which they are good at, and answer politely). They will never let him go, even if he wins a Super Bowl. He needs a media relations consultant badly.

[HINrichPolice]

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I disagree. If he would only man up and say "Its my fault for fumbling two snaps. There's no excuse. I'll work on it and that's all there is to it." Instead of "Well, I had sweat coming down my arm" or "The refs should have called illegal motion" the media and fans would have more respect.

He made his bed when he called the media ignorant. (Everybody knows the media is ignorant. Instead of calling them ignorant, you allow them to ask stupid questions and make themselves look ignorant, which they are good at, and answer politely). They will never let him go, even if he wins a Super Bowl. He needs a media relations consultant badly.

I remember the sweat comment and thought the same thing as you.

However, is there any doubt that Rex knows what's at stake whenever he makes a "bad Rex" play? I'm sure he puts enough pressure on himself. Maybe I just don't follow the Bears enough, but I don't think there's ever been a sense of Rex being unaware of his need to improve his consistency and boneheaded mistakes. I don't think he views all of his mistakes as someone or something else's fault.

[blumeany]

Forcing a pass and getting picked off is Favre-like, not being able to snap the ball isn't. Also, playing lights-out in the fourth quarter is Favre-like, disappearing in the fourth quarter is not. Rex has a long, long, long, way to go to even be close to Favre.