Fan poll ranks Bears after Saints, Cowboys and Other

[emperorjones]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7174442?MSNHPHCP&GT1=10473



I find this poll unbelievable. 35,000+ fans and "Other" gets 23% to the Bears 18% for best team in the NFC.

[PistonFan4Life]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7174442?MSNHPHCP&GT1=10473



I find this poll unbelievable. 35,000+ fans and "Other" gets 23% to the Bears 18% for best team in the NFC.

I'm not suprised. I like the Bears defense still, but I still have to say the offense is a big question mark even with the additions of Olsen and moving Hester to split duty at WR. I think the other 23 percent is probably coming in from the Rams and Eagles fans (not sure I would consider them better than the Bears, but you have to understand they're going to stand behind their team). I think the Saints are the best team in the NFC and its only a matter of time before they prove last year wasn't a fluke and their better than they were last year.

[CBS7]

There was another poll that had them behind the Eagles as well, and another that had the Saints as a choice for "who will win the super bowl" but not the Bears.

I've gotten used to it, the media and the general public thinks the Bears are super overrated.

If we don't do well next year, everyone will say they saw it coming, but if they do do well next year, everyone will say that they aren't suprised.

[PistonFan4Life]

There was another poll that had them behind the Eagles as well, and another that had the Saints as a choice for "who will win the super bowl" but not the Bears.

I've gotten used to it, the media and the general public thinks the Bears are super overrated.

If we don't do well next year, everyone will say they saw it coming, but if they do do well next year, everyone will say that they aren't suprised.

I don't blame some of you Bears fans for being tired of being overlooked and considered overrated. Having the top defense in the league the last couple of years and still not getting the respect you deserve would get old. Trust me when I say the Detroit fans know how you feel, our Pistons hardly got any credit for being a good team until we finally continued to walk to the Eastern Conference Finals the past 5 years. I think the lack of respect comes from the lack of offense though. I know thats not fair, but I'm sure thats where the lack of respect is coming from.

[Posey H8er]

The media over hypes Grossman to make us look bad. In fact, Grossman overshadows our entire team's talent.

^ I agree with your Pistons comparison as well.

[Jello Biafra]

The media hates Rex. Its OK though. The proof will be in the pudding.

[WEFFPIM]

I'm used to it. Maybe the Bears aren't everyone's preseason picks, that's not what is important.

[NoSkyy]

I rather be the underdog then the favorite. I think it gives an edge to the players/lets us fly under the radar.

[emperorjones]

The media hates Rex. Its OK though. The proof will be in the pudding.

Thats what I love about football more than any other sport

[Cliff Levingston]

I think the lack of respect comes from the lack of offense though.

Yea. A lowly 2nd in the NFL in points scored just won't cut it in the NFL.

[PistonFan4Life]

Yea. A lowly 2nd in the NFL in points scored just won't cut it in the NFL.

And how many of those point did your offense actually score? I know you defense puts up a lot of your points or gives you a short field to play with making it a lot easier. Look at the amount of 1st downs you guys achieve or converted 3rd downs, I bet the number you find doesn't rank 2nd in the NFL.

[Cliff Levingston]

And how many of those point did your offense actually score? I know you defense puts up a lot of your points or gives you a short field to play with making it a lot easier. Look at the amount of 1st downs you guys achieve or converted 3rd downs, I bet the number you find doesn't rank 2nd in the NFL.

Does it matter how we put up points? Is a touchdown not worth 6 points if Devin Hester returns a punt or the defense gives the offense the ball on the opponent's 20?

The fact of the matter is that everyone remembers what they saw last; a complete debacle by the Bears in the superbowl. Nevermind how they were playing one of the best teams in the NFL at the time (without two of our 3 best defensive players Mike Brown and Tommie Harris) and, as bad as we played, were still in the game in the 4th quarter.

We completely destroyed the Saints in the playoffs, yet somehow they're better than us now because we lost Thomas Jones? Or, the Cowboys are better than us now because they downgraded their head coach? Or maybe it's because Romo, who was equally as bad as Rex when at his worst, will get better this season... but Rex won't.

Apparently now if you make it the superbowl, you're not very good.

[PistonFan4Life]

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Does it matter how we put up points? Is a touchdown not worth 6 points if Devin Hester returns a punt or the defense gives the offense the ball on the opponent's 20?

The fact of the matter is that everyone remembers what they saw last; a complete debacle by the Bears in the superbowl. Nevermind how they were playing one of the best teams in the NFL at the time (without two of our 3 best defensive players Mike Brown and Tommie Harris) and, as bad as we played, were still in the game in the 4th quarter.

We completely destroyed the Saints in the playoffs, yet somehow they're better than us now because we lost Thomas Jones? Or, the Cowboys are better than us now because they downgraded their head coach? Or maybe it's because Romo, who was equally as bad as Rex when at his worst, will get better this season... but Rex won't.

Apparently now if you make it the superbowl, you're not very good.

When you act like you have the 2nd best offense in the league then in my mind yes it matters, because your offense is average at best. I looked it up 15th in total offense, meaning that your defense was responsible for you guys being a position to win a lot of game.

Now don't misunderstand me, I think the Bears are still one of the top 2 teams in the NFC, but if your defense does slip a little then your not going to be as good as you guys hope because your offense isn't good enough to win games on their own. I think thats that point your missing. I do think the Saints are a better team too, at least on offense they are a much better team, but that don't mean the Bears won't be going to the Superbowl again if their defense performs as it has the past 2 seasons.

Also in regards to totally destroying the Saints. I happen to disagree, you guys finally walked away in the 4th quarter of that game, but it was still within' reach until then. Now any other team with your defense would have ran away with that game early because your defense shut down the Saints, but your offense by no means got you guys to the Superbowl.

I guess the bottom line is its not that people don't consider the Bears a good team, its just that when people look at your offense they're not concerned that the Bears can beat them as much as they are concerned with teams like the Colts and Saints that can rack up points in a hurry.

[Cliff Levingston]

When you act like you have the 2nd best offense in the league then in my mind yes it matters, because your offense is average at best. I looked it up 15th in total offense, meaning that your defense was responsible for you guys being a position to win a lot of game.

Cliff Levingston never said we had a dynamic offense of anything like that and would agree that it's average. However, the general public would have you believe that the Bears offense is pathetic, and that simply isn't true.

Now don't misunderstand me, I think the Bears are still one of the top 2 teams in the NFC, but if your defense does slip a little then your not going to be as good as you guys hope because your offense isn't good enough to win games on their own. I think thats that point your missing. I do think the Saints are a better team too, at least on offense they are a much better team, but that don't mean the Bears won't be going to the Superbowl again if their defense performs as it has the past 2 seasons.

If the Colts offense under performs then where are they? If the Saints offense under performs then where are they? If the Cowboys' defense under performs then where are they?

Needless to say, Cliff Levingston doesn't care for if's. Every good team is built on a core competency or two, and if they can't do that then they obviously won't win. However, there's no reason to believe the Bears defense won't be one of the best, if not the best, so why even bother with the ifs?

Also in regards to totally destroying the Saints. I happen to disagree, you guys finally walked away in the 4th quarter of that game, but it was still within' reach until then. Now any other team with your defense would have ran away with that game early because your defense shut down the Saints, but your offense by no means got you guys to the Superbowl.

Who said our offense carried us to the superbowl?

I guess the bottom line is its not that people don't consider the Bears a good team, its just that when people look at your offense they're not concerned that the Bears can beat them as much as they are concerned with teams like the Colts and Saints that can rack up points in a hurry.

Because people don't understand that defense wins championships as you're well aware of being a Piston fan. Cliff Levingston guesses that to the average fan, all of a sudden the Saints will be able to keep the Bears under 14 points when they held them to a stellar 39 points in the conference championship.

Ah well, it's more proof for Cliff Levingston's theory: people are stupid.

[PistonFan4Life]

Very good post Cliff. I don't think the Eagles or the Rams are better, but I think the Saints will put up a great fight once again this year. But there is no reason to believe the Bears defense will slip enough that they won't be going back to the Superbowl. But this year I don't expect it to be versus the Colts, I would expect it to be against the Patriots and it should be one of the best defensive Superbowls ever seen.

[Ruben Douglas]

It's a fan poll. It is an easy explanation. Most fans will just vote for their favorite team. Hence, the "other" category is higher than the Bears. The Cowboys are "America's Team" and have a huge fan base. Hence, they will be higher than the Bears.
And New Orleans, the easy explanation is that they are the sexy pick. They may have lost to the Bears but they still have Reggie Bush and a good QB.

[Rodanlee]

[quote="PistonFan4Life"][/quote]

just curious pistonfan4life... are you one of the people who think that the bears were the worst superbowl team ever? (i'm not trying to be a jerk---serious question)

[PistonFan4Life]

just curious pistonfan4life... are you one of the people who think that the bears were the worst superbowl team ever? (i'm not trying to be a jerk---serious question)

Nope, I don't think that at all. I actually think the Raiders are the worst team to ever make it to the Superbowl. That was Superbowl 37 against Tampa Bay. I believe that game was over at halftime.

I think the Bears defense slipped a little towards the final stretch of the regular season, but I still rate them as one of the best defensive teams I've ever seen take the field and they deserved to be there. I mean c'mon, you guys beat the Saints (a team that I think would be very hard to shutdown) in the Conference Championship to get to the Superbowl, the Bears earned their right to be there. I don't mean to sound like the Bears don't deserve to win because their built on defense because they win games and thats what matter, it don't matter how you win, its just that you do win. I just get tired of hearing some people talk like Chicago is the best offensive and defensive team ever to step onto a football field. Great defensive teams have won the Superbowl with little to no thanks to their offense, just look at the Ravens, I mean they had Dilfer for their starting QB and won the whole thing thanks to Ray Lewis and his defense, not anything that Dilfer and the offense did.

[Ayt]

Bookmakers have them with the highest over/under win total in the NFC and the 4th highest in the NFL behind NE, INDY, and SD (half a game). They tend to get these types of things right more often than fans or media "experts."

[waffle]

I personally am not sold on the saints. They are good, yes, but consensus the best in the NFC? I dunno...