Benson and Wolfe-----2 back set

[SLCceltic]

i wanna see benson at FB with wolfe


benson could hold his own blocking and could take handoffs

2 back set; wolfe is so much better than AP----if he can hold up to NFL hits he will have a very nice career




what am i missing?????-----why arent we doing this???????


i read somewhere that it has taken wolfe time to get used to the speed of NFL----he looked very good in pre-season, esp cathing and making moves
he should be playing---but not the featured back yet, play with benson------saves wear and tear on benson 2

[NoSkyy]

AP's not that bad. I wouldn't automatically say the rookie is better than the guy that has actually gotten carries in his career(although I would like to see AP)

Honestly I think Benson has problem blocking as a RB(which is a lot easier than blocking in the run) and in my experince, HBs usually don't make good FBs because of the different responbilities. You want Benson to play FB because of his similar running style, but I'm not so sure how that bodes. Plus Mckie is damn good at blocking(not so at running).

[CBS7]

Wolfe is better then Peterson? Based on what?

[dougthonus]

I can't imagine Benson doing well as a blocking FB.
I can't imagine us paying his salary to use him as a blocking FB.
While it's not impossible there's no reason to think Wolfe will be better than Benson or Peterson.

[Cliff Levingston]

Cliff Levingston doesn't think we should send out 17 million guaranteed running back into the line just to block. If Benson can't cut it as a running back than he'll be replaced, not converted.

[Howling Mad]

Benson will never be a FB. ever. Is this the same Ced that couldn't get any snaps because he didn't know how to pass block?

So we want him as our last line of defense for Rex?

Rex might as well keep fumbling the snaps, it would be for his own benefit.

Then again a fast RB that can bust out of the hole is probably what this old O-line needs, 'cause they can't hold a block and fail to pick up blitz packages.

[TylerB]

SMH

[SLCceltic]

benson would not be strictly a fullback

a 2 back set in which both get carries




wolfe is in a completely different league than AP--------go back and look at the preseason games
wolfe catching passes out of the backfield and making guys miss with benson on the field; both getting carries>>benson/AP

i know everyone here loves AP and he is a bear, but wolfes lateral movement, quickness, speed, field vision are all superior to AP

AP is a special teamer that can fill in at rb if necessary


mckie is a good FB and ayenbadejo jr will be a spark when he returns
but for large stretches the defense should have to deal with what would be a potent backfield--------------a backfield that would give turner plenty of ways to keep defenses off balance, and we could keep the offense on the dam field


anything we loose in blocking would be more than made up by having 2 runners with one used as a scat back

our defense is special------if we can get the offense to stay on the field longer we are set against anyone

the high power offenses will win out against us b/c our d is worn out at the end of games

[dougthonus]

Can you name a team that's run a 2 back system successfully with 2 RBs in there for any significant amount of their plays?

[NoSkyy]

go back and look at the preseason games

/endthread

[Ayt]

People are way too down on Benson after 1 bad game against an extremely tough D to run against.

[SportsWorld]

People are way too down on Benson after 1 bad game against an extremely tough D to run against.

He didn't look so sharp in preseason either. He is slow off the snap from what I have seen so far out of him.

[Ayt]

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He didn't look so sharp in preseason either. He is slow off the snap from what I have seen so far out of him.

I thought the Bears OL played like crap, but we'll have to see how things go in the coming games.

[SLCceltic]

People are way too down on Benson after 1 bad game against an extremely tough D to run against.

i definitely agree

benson will be very solid this season------some people actually think that the chargers have a better D than us

they are great and we are elite..........so yeah benson struggled with all that focused on him



we need more weapons on offense to help the defense not be spent at the end of games and garett wolfe looks like a killer weapon; and olsen

[NoSkyy]

Well, I actually see what you're getting at now. But ideally, if you want to have both of them on the field at the same time, you can have one of them line up in the slot(both can catch, or well sort of) or we just use a spilt back set(in which case neither is the FB.)

[Joe Jackson]

I could see some advantage to having both players in the backfield at the same time with some additional play calling options you might have that the defense would have to try to anticipate.
But you would also lose some of the blocking and other run advantages you have with the single RB set.

I do think that it would be great if Wolfe would develop into a running threat of a much diferent type from Cedric and then alternate them some and give the defense just that many more different looks to have to worry about. And then just when they think they are prepared from a change of pace from one type runner to the other, throw in a little play action passing on them.
I think a mixture of the two could have some excellent productivity.

[TylerB]

This isn't high school football. Benson and Wolfe in the same backfield is just dumb.

[Joe Jackson]

I don't think having two RB in the same backfield is restricted to only high school football.

How much difference really is there between having Benson and Wolfe on the field together and having Benson in the game at RB and Hester at WR?

Everybody is raising hell to get Hester in the game at WR and there has been a pretty good outcry to have Turner fired because he didn't play more at SanDiego.
So if you just move Hester into the backfield , or towards the backfield, what is going to happen to make that be a high school formation?

And since he is now playing in the backfield, I am going to replace Hester with Wolfe because of Wolfe's ball carrying experience.
What is really so revolting about that?

Now having said all that, I also see no reason you couldn't leave Hester split at WR and move Wolfe into the backfield with Cedric (or Peterson) and take out Jason. Just for a different look and let the genius Turner and the running game advocate Lovie figure out some plays off that formation with all that talent.

[SLCceltic]

I don't think having two RB in the same backfield is restricted to only high school football

Just for a different look and let the genius Turner and the running game advocate Lovie figure out some plays off that formation with all that talent.

2 typical backs with typical RB skill sets is high school style

benson at 220 is 10lbs lighter than ayenbadejo and 20 lighter than mckie
wolfe is a scat back that can run b/w the tackles

neither are typical and benson's sheer size and athleticism would ensure that we dont get killed by bad protection---lets build the offense around what we have; the offense is so dependent on a productive run game, so lets give ourselves greater opportunity for success

benson wolfe together>>>benson/AP rotation w/mckieayenbadejo
our run game will be better b/c teams wont be able to just focus on the featured back


the bottom line is that our offense has to stay on the field longer against the better teams in the league if we are going to win the title this year
impliment a stronger offense now, so that it is flowing for the playoffs

i just cant believe that benson/AP was the plan for our running attack this year