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It wouldn't be the first time ever someone has come from the depth of 3rd string to come out starting by the end of the season.

Orton might have not given us much confidence from his performance in his rookie year, but that was his rookie year.

Just think back when you started a new job... If they threw you out to the wolves would you survive? Ok what if they threw you out to the wolves after being out of that line of work for a year?

Well this is what happened with Orton. At Perdue this guy was a stud. I know its college ball, but he was ahead, yes ahead, of guys like Leinart and Jason White. He came out of the gate and won 5 games for Perdue without a single interception. He was also the favorite for the Hiesman. Then he started getting several injuries that kept forcing him out of play, and most importantly losing his starting job more than once due to those injuries.

I'm sure some of you know this, but just reminding you guys that we have a legit QB waiting. Scooping up Orton in the fourth round, is the only sign of UN-support for Rex in the past 3 years, until now of course.

If Romo can come into the NFL undrafted, Brady in the 6th round, Montana in the 3rd round, then I really can't give up on Orton.

I'd rather try him over Griese at this point. If Rex has to go (and I'm the only one in the country who believes this is the wrong thing to do) then go with Orton. Griese is a guy who can manage a game I'm told. But with this many injuries on defense, we need someone who can win a game - there will not be many games to manage IMO.

i agree with you. this guy in college was a passing specialist, and has legit nfl arm and size. he was a rookie when he played for us and had a very limited playcalling from his scared offensive coordinators.

i am a big griese fan, but i wouldnt be shocked if someday orton has a drew bledsoe like career since i see this as his best comparison. neither can move in the pocket, but both are big and can throw.

I am a fan of Kyle Orton! I think he or Griese (I'm a fan of his more now, with his comments

"First and foremost, as an offense we have to step up," Griese said. "I think that playing offense is an attitude, and I think since I've been here, the offense has been kind of second-class citizens. Hopefully I can bring a little bit of energy and enthusiasm to our huddle and to our game."

) have to be an upgrade with the poor play from Rex.

I thought Orton did fine his rookie year, he managed the game well enough, and not blow the game for us. However, we also had TJ too. I'd like to think Orton is better now, than 2 years ago. He seems like a tough guy, and I think can take his hits when in the pocket.

Additionally, I agree with emperorjones on running Rex out of town (it being a bad idea), I still think once Rex gets his head straight, and toughens up, he'll be a fine QB. He can definetely throw that ball deep, he just has to correct his mechanics (which is all screwed up with all the media talk, he shows it now that he's mentally a mess).

In any event, we need an offense that can take time off the clock, but more importantly, put points up on the board, thus minimizing our Defense in uncompromising field positions.

Griese is a guy who can manage a game I'm told. But with this many injuries on defense, we need someone who can win a game - there will not be many games to manage IMO.

Griese has been a big game QB who can win games at many points in his career.

The best game in Orton's career is probably 230 yards and 1 TD with no interceptions. As a starter he averaged about 130 yards per start and threw more INTs than TDs. How do you figure this is a guy who could win a game for you?

emperorjones wrote:I'd rather try him over Griese at this point. If Rex has to go (and I'm the only one in the country who believes this is the wrong thing to do) then go with Orton. Griese is a guy who can manage a game I'm told. But with this many injuries on defense, we need someone who can win a game - there will not be many games to manage IMO.

You got that backwards. Orton was the game manager in 2005 and Griese was the guy who made plays in 2004.

At this point, I'd much, much rather try out Griese.

if the season is lost in 6 or 7 games... give orton a shot as our franchise qb... and if he doesn't work out, draft a qb

Rodanlee wrote:if the season is lost in 6 or 7 games... give orton a shot as our franchise qb... and if he doesn't work out, draft a qb

Thats hitting the nail on the donkey. Heck even if we wrap up the division in 12-14 games, lets see some Kyle Orton.

Who knows maybe we can ride him to success. Ok that might be a little to far but we definitely need to know how our 4th rnd draft pick is going to pan out. Rookie year doens't count and right now is about the as best of a time as ever.

Rodanlee wrote:if the season is lost in 6 or 7 games... give orton a shot as our franchise qb... and if he doesn't work out, draft a qb

Correct answer!! Thank you, rodan.

And if the season isn't lost after 6 or 7 games, just ride right on towards the Super Bowl with Griese.
This is the correct approach to the Bear's QB situation. And I think its a decent position to be in with 13 games to go.

Rex is done. Toast. He'll never make it in the NFL.
College and high school player.

If the season is completely lost (which would require us to be 2-5 or worse for me to accept it) then I wouldn't mind trying Orton. However, I'd be absolutely shocked if he amounted to anything. Of course going Orton could give us a nice draft pick next year.

Granville Colter wrote:he was a rookie when he played for us and had a very limited playcalling from his scared offensive coordinators.

Actually it was Orton who was scared.

I wouldn't mind giving Orton a chance, we drafted him and everything.

Not to mention he's just so goddamn sexy.

I think many people want to go with Orton because of the age bias. Griese is older and assumed to be a washed-up temporary fix. Orton is still young and still has promise. WE ALL do not want to face the fact that we've just pretty much lost our 1 hope for a franchise QB, and we want a quick replacement - someone we can hang our hopes on.

Having said that, I couldn't tell you who will be better. I do know that if Griese sucks, Orton will probably get some time. People do have to remember that even though Orton had all those wins and was a rookie, he never had a 'flashy' game like Rex has had in terms of numbers. He was a big time manager and relied on the defense to get the ball back and score.

blumeany wrote:... he never had a 'flashy' game like Rex has had in terms of numbers. He was a big time manager and relied on the defense to get the ball back and score.

All the more reason to give him the opportunity for a flashy game. Rex repeatedly received chance after chance even after several bone headed mistakes and poor decisions.

I understand Orton wasn't much in his rookie year, but we didn't give him the opportunity to do anything. I remember a lot of wide and out plays and a lot of screen plays with Orton. Hardly did he ever have the chance to bomb it deep or look for a 15 yard gain up the middle to the TEs. He was in there to manage the game and minimize turnovers.

I'm with ya. I'd like to see Orton get a chance. But if we play well under Griese, I don't see any reason to rock the boat again.

Well I've been pretty outspoken about how god awfully horrendous Orton was when he played last time. I hope he never sees another snap as a Bear.

1) He's awful.

2) It means we won't have self destructed.

i wouldn't mind orton starting, if he meant he performs so poorly that angelo would have to draft a qb first round. that way, he would be assured that all 3 qbs on the roster suck and changes need to be made.

What gives you confidence that Angelo would pick a good QB in the first round?

i'm not that confident that angelo would pick a good qb, especially since the last qb he picked sucks, but just drafting a new qb would give us some hope, and end the current madness.

but i acknowledge it could turn into future madness.

i'm on the matt ryan badnwagon.. 6'5 kid who can play