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Sunday October 21, 2007
Lincoln Financial Field
Radio: WBBM 780AM (Tom Thayer + Jeff Joniak) & WIP 610 AM (Merrill Reese & Mike Quick)
TV: FOX (aka Faux) w./ the announcers DICK STOCKTON & Brian Baldinger
4:15PM ET/ 3:15PM CST

My number 1 Favorite Team (2-4 overall, 1-2 Road):


vs.

My 2nd Favorite Team (2-3 overall, 1-1 Home):



The Stars:
BEARS!







Griese (I swear he sort of looks like Agent Smith to me)


The new guy making things happen.


and our Mr. Clutch, Mr. Everything, our SAVIOR!




@

Iggles:
(questionable)


(probably out)


A strong back to contend with


Aaaaand, hopefully our prodigal son returns home for 2008:

Question is can we get some pass rush on him to force him into mistakes, thus
giving us oppurtunities to have great field position...

It all goes down here



Whose gonna win? If Hester gets 3 TDs, we win! It should be a great game. I'll be DVD-R-ing it, and if its win, I'll post it up on sendspace (probably a 2 to 4 files).


KEYS to the Game

For a BEARS W:
1.) Win time of Possesion. I. E. move the sticks, that means you Ceddy! Its a Defense you can run on (passing is a different story). In particular DO NOT TURN THE F-ING BALL OVER.
2.) If Griese is going to pass, SLANT ROUTES, that'll soften them up. No INTs or Fumbles! Watchout for those corners on that outside blitz (if Lito Sheppard is back), thus passing it quickly to an open receiver, since I think Dawkins is out.
3.) D must stop the run and hone in on Curtis & Westbrook. McNabb will not run out of the pocket too much. Stop those two key guys, which forces Brown, Avant, maybe LJ Smith to make plays (ones they're not used to making!). Brian Urlacher needs to step it up otherwise he can forget about that new contract he'll want soon.
4.) Ron-ron Turner uses Hester more on offense. Otherwise, he (Ron) will be joining Moose, Archuletta, and a few others on a plane on out of the Best City in the World (following the last game of the season).


For a EAGLES W:
1.) Pressure Griese, push aside Benson in the passing plays, he's too lazy to block. Takeo Spikes is a better & smarter version of Jeremiah Trotter, he can actually play in pass coverage, not just rush the offense.
2.) Pass in the middle of the field, the Bears may have their inexperienced defensive backs out there (unless Vasher starts then it may change that whole point). Slant routes work in particular.
3.) Westbrook & Curtis need to have good games. Good rushing game and good passing game, with minimal turnovers. Watch for Eagles look to exploit where the Bears are hurting up front, in the ground game.
4.) Good offensive play calling (something both teams struggle with), esp. in the Red Zone. Eagles are just as bad as the Bears in play calls in the red zone.

P.S. I will attach my week 7 picks in this thread as a "reply."

They don't have Adrian Peterson? We have a chance I think.

They have Westbrook.

Westbrook will totally evade all our players in the secondary trying to tackle him.

I'll keep my prediction simple, Vasher back, W, Vasher not back, L.

I say we establish the run and just play action all day. Then again, that's what I say every week.

run the ball early and often... Griese should not throw the ball more than 28 passes unless the passing game catches on fire early and not late in the game when we are down.

also the argument between BG and RG is getting out of hand.... people are throwing out stats left and right saying that BG is better QB because his QB rating is high. they are completely 2 different QBs. one is a gunslinger and the other is a dink and dunk, so its obvious that BG is gonna have a high percentage. its all HIGH risk High reward, low risk low reward. stats do mean something but that always cant be the argument because it gets pointless at times.

people have argued that grossman sucked this season because he threw 1td 6int and that griese is so much better because he has better stats. i agree that grossman sucked and the bench was smart in the idea of him learning from it and then getting back out there and playing smarter. in a defense to grossman, he played 3 real tough opponents compared to grieses first 3 games. but overall it comes down to who can get the win. i felt that grossman could have made it out this year without getting chewed up by the fans and the media that bad. but whatever good luck griese, hope grossman comes back next year because im not sure there will be any FAs.

The only real tough opponent that Grossman played was San Diego. Dallas is tough but their passing defense has been exposed at times. KC just sucked, and both of the picks were terrible passes that were his fault.

Griese played Detroit, who does have a terrible defense, but he played the Packers, who have a couple of pro bowl level corners and a good overall defense, and the Vikings, who have a poor secondary but have always been able to get pressure on the QB. (Last year they had a poor secondary as well, didn't stop Grossman from throwing 1 TD and 5 picks against them last year, including the 1.3 game).

Griese has much, much better stats across the board.

Grossman
3 games 52.8 % 500 yards 5.6 yards/pass 1 TD 6 INT 47-89 45.2 QB RAT
166.7 yards/game 1 TD/89 attempts (1.1 TD%) 1 INT/14.8 attempts (6.7 INT%) 15.7 completions/game 29.7 attempts/game
9 sacked

Griese
3 games 61.5% 881 yards 7.2 yards/pass 7 TD 6 INT 75-122 82.0 QB RAT
293.7 yards/game (#3 in NFL) 1 TD/17.5 attempts (5.7 TD%) 1 INT/20.3 attempts (4.9 INT%) 25 completionss/game 40.7 attempts/game
9 sacked

For a gunslinger he has a pretty darn low yards per pass average. If you say its not fair because the sample size is so small, last year he averaged just 6.7 yards per pass.

Griese has thrown a lot of picks because he throws the ball so damn much. We've been down early due to the poor play of the defense, so we have to throw a lot, and the more you throw, the more picks you throw. He's thrown the ball over 40 times a game in his first three starts.

He's also been pretty clutch. In the final 3 minutes of games, where we were down or tied, he has 4 TD passes and no picks.

our run game was better last year than it was this year, so for you to say rex ypp was low isnt really 100% true, nah mean? but griese isnt suppose to throw picks...

plus grossman has been our best productive QB in awhile, and while he didnt really take us to the SB, he was part of it, and the team blew complete ass in that SB. i dont understand why we played prevent while manning was checking it down everytime?...

batman_crip14 wrote:our run game was better last year than it was this year, so for you to say rex ypp was low isnt really 100% true, nah mean? but griese isnt suppose to throw picks...

plus grossman has been our best productive QB in awhile, and while he didnt really take us to the SB, he was part of it, and the team blew complete ass in that SB. i dont understand why we played prevent while manning was checking it down everytime?...

I can definetely see agree w./ that point of view. Definitely Grossman wasn't responsible for the team getting the Super Bowl, but part of it. Also, he wasn't the reason why they lost. That Defense of ours was getting chopped and diced by the dink & dunk passes by Peyton & Co. If any blame should be held, I'd like to point at Rivera & lack of adjustments on D (which is probably why he isn't here anymore). This is not omitting Rex from blame, he had his hand in it too, but blame can be spread (as you said in the TEAM BLEW COMPLETE "BOOTY" IN THAT SB).

haha... its about time someone realized that the team lost the super bowl. grossman i feel bad for, took too much heat most of the time (99%)

and also the whole " if you apply pressure, he cracks" its like that for every QB, so i think thats another bogus diss against rex, because manning in the SB cracked with pressure until he got that score with Wayne and we started playing prevent.

i hope to see rex soon this season, maybe even in the philly game to rebound back, cuz he has done more than once.

He's not going to come back anytime soon, I'll tell you that for certain.

Yeah, Grossman didn't lose the super bowl... but still. Thomas Jones was good and our defense only gave up 22 points to one of the best offenses in the league, they gave up some big plays but overall, 22 points is pretty good.

Seriously, now, how many people thought Grossman would lead the team down the field for a score with the team down in the fourth quarter? I didn't. Thats my major knock on Grossman... when has he ever lead the team back to a win late in the game? What if we had a QB who, instead of throwing a pick that was returned for a TD, led the team down the field to a score? We could have won it.

I'd like to add, Griese has more 4th quarter TDs in 3 games this year then Grossman has in his career.

I'm seeing in a lot of articles that Griese has been barely better then Grossman in each of their 3 games.

I don't see it. He hasn't been great, throwing a lot of picks, but he does have 7 scores.

he hasnt been the type of quarterback weve wanted to see or he has been labeled as.

i might as well use grossman for the time being but i want him to come back with some fire.

We haven't given him a chance to be a game manager who doesn't throw a lot of picks. Game managers usually player with a team that has a great D, special teams, and running game. We only have the special teams going for us.

We've been down big at times, so we have to pass, which explains his ridiculously high pass attempts.

_CBS7_ wrote:I'm seeing in a lot of articles that Griese has been barely better then Grossman in each of their 3 games.

I don't see it. He hasn't been great, throwing a lot of picks, but he does have 7 scores.

I agree. People should stop reading the malarkey and start watching.
Forget all the spin by the negative back biters, what Griese has done is given the Bears a good chance to win every game and if a few other things had gone right or other components performed better they would have won them all.
Grossman on the other hand, single-handedly made it practically impossible to even compete or hope to win in any of the games he bungled around in.

That is about a 160 degree turnaround and we need to stop focusing on QB as the Bears problem area and start fixing other breakdowns.

The only thing Griese could do to make it a complete 180 degree turnaround would be to single-handedly and individually start winning games by himself for the Bears.

grossman gets off to a better start than griese does.

Griese finishes better, which is what matters, doesn't it?

I said this before, Griese has more 4th quarter TD passes in 3 games this year then Grossman does in his career.

i rather have 21 points at half and be up... then be losing by 30 and having to score late in the game.

plus overall... i rather take my chances with grossman for the future because we have never been able to secure a quarterback for more than 2 years of consistent starts. and he has shown us more flashes than our 15 previous quarterbacks. so i would say that grossmans peformance overall is not too shabby.