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I know a lot has been said about Rex's clutch performance or whatever and how he led the team back, so, based on the fact that Rex did have success against the Seahawks last year (great game in reg. season, avg in postseason), who's your starter on Sunday?

Griese if he's healthy, otherwise Rex.

I'm the last guy on the Grossman bandwagon. Even he jumped off. But there is NOTHING gained by playing Gree C if Rex and Orton are healthy.

I'd go Griese, he still gives us the best chance to make the playoffs IMO. He's been almost as up and down as Grossman has, though. If we win this game we can be right back in the thick of the wildcard race. We might even get a shot to pass Detroit soon, they've got three tough as hell games coming up (NYG, Dallas, Green Bay) and they have to play Green Bay again later.

We don't really have an easy scedule either, but its a lot easier then that one.

When we're eliminated, then I say no to Griese.

Detroit is the only team that has really given Griese trouble, though. He's done well against good pass defenses in Phili and Green bay. Hopefully he can do the same against Seattle.

Agree with CL. Griese if he's healthy, otherwise Rex.

look at it this way. who is more likely to throw 4 interceptions? i would probably say grossman.

griese should start.

I love how Kyle Orton is winning. xD

Griese cost us two games against the freaking Lions while Grossman cost us two games against the Chargers and Cowboys.

If we're going anywhere this season it's not going to be because the defense has dominated, or because the team has run the ball down down anybody's throats. It's going to have come from the passing game and Rex has had stretches of dominating play followed by dreadful play. Quite frankly, this team needs to either win out or lose out and with Rex, atleast you know that the team is capable of either.

richard wrote:look at it this way. who is more likely to throw 4 interceptions? i would probably say grossman.

griese should start.

You're right. Griese has shown that he's great at protecting the ball and not throwing a bunch of interceptions.

Oh, wait.

xcrnrkyle wrote:Griese cost us two games against the freaking Lions while Grossman cost us two games against the Chargers and Cowboys.

If we're going anywhere this season it's not going to be because the defense has dominated, or because the team has run the ball down down anybody's throats. It's going to have come from the passing game and Rex has had stretches of dominating play followed by dreadful play. Quite frankly, this team needs to either win out or lose out and with Rex, atleast you know that the team is capable of either.

Grossman also could've easily cost us the game against the Chiefs if not for the defense, Hester, and Benson going for 100+ yards.

who cares if, could of , would of, should of.... he is a better player than Griese, rex haters are going to continue to hate, so let them. we arent gonna get mcnabb, manning or brady tomorrow, so we gotta deal with what we got today and that grossman. he gave us that spark that we rreally needed and the entire team got lit up because of it and you could tell. so everyone be happy with that win, and grossman showed us a lil something and i believe it will carry on

davhern wrote:You're right. Griese has shown that he's great at protecting the ball and not throwing a bunch of interceptions.

Oh, wait.

i never said griese has been great at protecting the ball. griese has sucked almost as much as grossman. he has cost the bears wins just as grossman has cost them wins.. i don't like either qb, i think they both are below average. but griese is less likely to give the game away than grossman, who is less accurate and more of a risk taker.

griese's picks costs us wins against the lions, i realize that. but the bears still had many chances to win both games under griese.

batman_crip14 wrote:who cares if, could of , would of, should of.... he is a better player than Griese, rex haters are going to continue to hate, so let them. we arent gonna get mcnabb, manning or brady tomorrow, so we gotta deal with what we got today and that grossman. he gave us that spark that we rreally needed and the entire team got lit up because of it and you could tell. so everyone be happy with that win, and grossman showed us a lil something and i believe it will carry on

It was awesome what he did last week. But plain and simple, its nothing new, nothing that Grossman couldn't and didn't do before.

I haven't seen anything from either Griese or Grossman to say one is better then the other. Both have looked good in different ways(Grossman throwing deep balls, Griese with his clutch throws/drives), both have looked bad in the similar ways(bad decisions, fumbles, picks).

That was just Grossman's 4th 4th quarter TD of his career, compared to 13 4th quarter picks.

Griese has had two really bad games this year, both coming against the Lions. Like someone before me said, we were still in position to win those games, because Griese's bad isn't even close to Grossman's bad.

Week 4 @ Lions 34-52 (65.4%) 286 yards 2 TD 3 INT 68.3 QB rating
Week 8 vs Lions 22-40 (55.0%) 208 yards 1 TD 4 INT 38.3 QB rating

Grossman put up ratings of 0.0, 1.3, 10.8, 23.7, and 36.8 last year and a 27.5 this year. We either lost those games (0.0, 23.7, 36. or won narrowly thanks to outstanding perfomances by our defense (1.3, 10..

We don't have that defense this year. When Griese is bad, he's bad, but he's not Rex bad. He still threw for 286 and 208 yards, 2 and 1 TDs and completed 65.4% and 55.0% of his passes in those two games, which is why we still had a slim chance to win both.

Anyways, I'm never going to root for whoever we have starting to suck. It will make me happy if either guy does good. I'd rather start Griese, but go whoever starts.

Man. Grossman had a lot of potential. He looked pretty good as a rookie (considering he was a rookie) in those last 3 games he started that year and looked good starting 3 to start the next season before he tore his ACL. The injuries seem to have really thrown off his equilibrium.

Cliff Levingston thinks we would've had a pretty good QB perhaps a step below the level of Palmer or Romo in Grossman had he not had those two serious injuries in consecutive years. All of that is moot now because both QB's pretty much are what they are, neither being anything more than an average QB at best.

Cliff Levingston wouldn't mind seeing how the benching affected Rex by starting him this next week, but still... if Griese is healthy enough to play, you gotta go with him.

What has Griese done here to keep his job? This defense sucks, there's no running game and the dink and dunk passing attack with Griese has gone 2-3 against three subpar teams (the Lions are subpar if Griese doesn't blow those two games). We know that Rex has shown that he can lead a dominant passing attack for a period of time and we know what Griese will give us.

According to the Tribune...

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribu ... ill-s.html

Rex Grossman will start at quarterback for the Bears against Seattle, a team source confirmed Wednesday.

Grossman took snaps with the starting offense during Wednesday's walk through. The Bears canceled their quarterback press conference, but the decision has already been made.

I hope we see good things from him. I'd like to see his completion % and yards per pass go up.

Its understandable that his % is lower then Griese's, because Griese doesn't take as many shots down the field, but both his % and yards/pass should be higher.

Maybe not 62%, but it should be higher then the 54.6% he had last year and 52.4% this year. I'm hoping he can get it up to 58-59% and 7 yards per pass.