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First let me say....

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD CLAP YOUR HANDS LA LA LA LA..DING DONG THE WICKED WITCH IS DEAAAAAAAAAD!




Now more seriously. BF is truly great. But in the midst of everyone telling me how marvelous this guy was and what a tough guy he was with his consecutive games streak and other royal nonesuch. How he separted his shoulder in 1992 in a game against the eagles and still mustered up enough to come back and play after half time. How week after week the guy came back without fail. I remind people - The guy was addicted to pain killers and was banned from drinking alcohol for nearly a year by the league. Pretty much got a pass for that. Must have been the aligator tears at the press conference.

Probably a bit easier to keep that consecutive streak going when you're pumped with little colorful pills.

Sorry, I give credit - he's great - but my Packer hatred goes too deep to to let this Favre cumfest continue unchecked.

So congrats Brett on a job well done. Go to hell. You won as many Superbowls as Jim McMahon. And as I said before.....

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD CLAP YOUR HANDS LA LA LA LA..DING DONG THE WICKED WITCH IS DEAAAAAAAAAD!




Anyone else care to leave their thoughts on the great one?

As I wrote in another thread, this cat wasn't going to retire last year being so close to breaking Marino's records. All that talk was so that he could come back and play one more year, break the records, and then retire. That way no one can really question his timing since he was "considering" retirement last year.

The excuse that he's tired is a BS one if you ask me. I'm sure he's no more tired than he was the last 10+ years. Wasn't he also very tired last year? Why come back? Your team wasn't expected to go anywhere, was it to break the records? Now that his team is so close to winning it, he calls it quits? Isn't that why you play the game, to win? Too bad Peyton will easily eclipse all those records anyway.

I know I'm coming off as a Favre hater. I'm really not. He was a great, great player. One of the greatest of all time. But his sudden retirement, at least for me, reaffirmed what I thought all along: He came back for one more year simply to break the records. He's done alot for football, but football has done much more for him. He owes it to his fans and to the city of Green Bay to come back, being so close and all.

But hey, to each his own. One thing is for sure though, I'll never mistake him for Barry Sanders.

I read that if the Packers signed Randy Moss, Favre said he'd come back for more. But they didn't, and shortly thereafter he made his retirement official.

CBS7 wrote:I read that if the Packers signed Randy Moss, Favre said he'd come back for more. But they didn't, and shortly thereafter he made his retirement official.

Ha.

Sounds about right.

CBS7 wrote:I read that if the Packers signed Randy Moss, Favre said he'd come back for more. But they didn't, and shortly thereafter he made his retirement official.

I have a very hard time believing Randy Moss was THE reason Favre retired. No one just ups and leaves if a franchise decides not to sign someone. His mind was made up awhile before this (I think Thursday was when he told Mike McCarthy that he was leaning towards retirement). Randy Moss may have tipped him over to retirement, but I think of it more as Favre had his mind made up awhile ago he was going to retire, and the only way he would have reconsidered that is if the Packers signed Moss. But I don't think Moss is the reason Brett decided to call it quits.

I think he made his mind up at Soldiers Field in the cold and confirmed it in the cold against the Giants. At some point your body says..."man this sucks. I'm done."

I loved Brett Favre as a player and as a football fan despite the fact that he tormented the Bears for so long. What a great ambassador for the game.

I don't know why you'd be cynical about his retirement or why you'd care if he stuck around just to break Marino's records. At least he had a great going out party this past year, what the hell was Dan Marino doing couple years of his career? Besides which, Peyton Manning is likely to smash all of Favre's records anyway, so if he wanted them secured for any length of time he should have stuck around longer.

I'm a little surprised by the retirement just because the Pack was so good last year, but he may have figured it's better to go out 'on top' (even if it just means a very successful year and not a championship) than to try and run out there one more time to see what happens.

dougthonus wrote:I loved Brett Favre as a player and as a football fan despite the fact that he tormented the Bears for so long. What a great ambassador for the game.

Hey there's no emoticon that swallows its own vomit.....

Favre was great. Unfortunately, everyone in WI wants to suck his balls and aren't afraid to show it. His tragedies were blown out of proportion on national television to make it seem like nobody in the world has ever gone through the pain (physically and mentally) he has and had to work through it. Don't get me wrong, his career was amazing, but other than Favre being a Packer, I think the reason I was never really able to truly appreciate and be a fan of Favre is because of the "Love Fest" (to put it lightly) for the man.

dougthonus wrote:I loved Brett Favre as a player and as a football fan despite the fact that he tormented the Bears for so long. What a great ambassador for the game.

I don't know why you'd be cynical about his retirement or why you'd care if he stuck around just to break Marino's records. At least he had a great going out party this past year, what the hell was Dan Marino doing couple years of his career? Besides which, Peyton Manning is likely to smash all of Favre's records anyway, so if he wanted them secured for any length of time he should have stuck around longer.

I'm a little surprised by the retirement just because the Pack was so good last year, but he may have figured it's better to go out 'on top' (even if it just means a very successful year and not a championship) than to try and run out there one more time to see what happens.

Don't think for a second that, even though Peyton will easily eclipse all of his records, he wasn't thinking about being on top at lest for the time being. Besides, all it takes is one snap to end someones career. As competitive as he was, he wanted to break those records.

Don't get me wrong, I really don't have a problem with that. What I have a problem with is with the Pack being so close, and quite possibly being ONE of the favorites in the NFC this year, why hang em up now? I mean that's why you SHOULD play the game, to win a superbowl. Not to break records. The timing is just wrong, and imho, it just seems like he's put himself above his team.

And another thing. He claimed in his interview that anything short of a superbowl would be a failure, so he wasn't up to the challenge. Well how do you know unless you try? And was that your feeling last year when you threatend to retire, even though expectations were for a team to be a few games above .500? Are you telling your team in March that you don't believe they have what it takes, after making it to the NFC championship game the year before? Again, to me this just signals a guy putting himself above his team. For some that may seem ok, but for me it's not.

Don't think for a second that, even though Peyton will easily eclipse all of his records, he wasn't thinking about being on top at lest for the time being. Besides, all it takes is one snap to end someones career. As competitive as he was, he wanted to break those records.

I never said otherwise.

Don't get me wrong, I really don't have a problem with that. What I have a problem with is with the Pack being so close, and quite possibly being ONE of the favorites in the NFC this year, why hang em up now? I mean that's why you SHOULD play the game, to win a superbowl. Not to break records. The timing is just wrong, and imho, it just seems like he's put himself above his team.

And another thing. He claimed in his interview that anything short of a superbowl would be a failure, so he wasn't up to the challenge. Well how do you know unless you try? And was that your feeling last year when you threatend to retire, even though expectations were for a team to be a few games above .500? Are you telling your team in March that you don't believe they have what it takes, after making it to the NFC championship game the year before? Again, to me this just signals a guy putting himself above his team. For some that may seem ok, but for me it's not.

Is his decision best for the Packers? No.

So what?

I don't think you base your retirement on what is best for the team.

dougthonus wrote:Is his decision best for the Packers? No.

So what?

I don't think you base your retirement on what is best for the team.

I guess we agree to disagree. Being this close, I think he owes it to his team and his fans. But that's just me.

There's no doubt he did alot for the game, for his team, and for his fans. But I think all three did much more for Brett Favre.

I always thought Brett was the man. But after that press conference I question whether he's a man at all.

What time do they start fitting him for his dress? What a pitiful display.

There's no doubt he did alot for the game, for his team, and for his fans. But I think all three did much more for Brett Favre.

I don't know how you can compare the 2. My guess is that the joy Favre has given Packers fans eclipses by an infinite factor the joy they bring him (since he's probably frequently harassed and can't go anywhere without being stopped, it's probably a love hate thing with him like with most ultra famous people).

Financially, I think he's probably generated at least 500 million in additional revenue for the Packers relative to what they've had if they had the Bears starting QBs for the past 16 years. There's no way they've adequately paid him for what he's brought to the team financially.

If he owed them anything it was an early decision, which he gave them.

dougthonus wrote:

There's no doubt he did alot for the game, for his team, and for his fans. But I think all three did much more for Brett Favre.

I don't know how you can compare the 2. My guess is that the joy Favre has given Packers fans eclipses by an infinite factor the joy they bring him (since he's probably frequently harassed and can't go anywhere without being stopped, it's probably a love hate thing with him like with most ultra famous people).

Financially, I think he's probably generated at least 500 million in additional revenue for the Packers relative to what they've had if they had the Bears starting QBs for the past 16 years. There's no way they've adequately paid him for what he's brought to the team financially.

If he owed them anything it was an early decision, which he gave them.

My point was if there was no game, and there were no Packers, and consequently there were no fans, there wouldn't have been a Brett Favre. At least not a Brett Favre the football player.

Favre has been a choker for 10 years now. That super bowl was a LONG time ago

SWIFTSLICK wrote:I always thought Brett was the man. But after that press conference I question whether he's a man at all.

What time do they start fitting him for his dress? What a pitiful display.

Damn I missed it! Nothing I like seeing more than that puss cry!

Favre has been a choker for 10 years now. That super bowl was a LONG time ago

Good to know that if you don't win the superbowl you're a choker in the NFL.

dougthonus wrote:

Favre has been a choker for 10 years now. That super bowl was a LONG time ago

Good to know that if you don't win the superbowl you're a choker in the NFL.

How many playoff games have the Packers lost because of Brett Favre since they lost to Denver? Every time they lose a playoff game Favre is throwing it away all game or in the biggest moments.

Brett Favre has had some nice regular seasons but for the most part he has been a talented choker since his last super bowl appearance 10 seasons ago.