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Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Penalties, 2 fumbles from Olsen, dumb playcalling (again), more dumb penalties.

The plus? Forte looked good again and would have had 100+ yards a gain if not for a couple of holding penalties.
Also, no injuries, and the defense looked phenomenal for most of the game. Yes they gave up a few big plays late in the game and couldn't stop Stewart, but they were on the field a lot. And they overall gave up under 220 yards.

So Forte and the defense are for real. But Orton and Turner aren't.

I still think we're making the playoffs.
If you told me 2 weeks ago that we'd be going into our home opener 1-1, Forte had 200+ rushing yards, we held the Colts to under 300 yards and the Panthers to under 220, I'd be happy.

One more thing... ughh... Greg Olsen... ughh.

Kills a drive that was in FG range then again when we were already in our own territory.

The Bears just needed ONE play and they would be 2-0. The biggest was probably the 2nd Olsen fumble but Orton's overthrown pass to Booker was an unforced error and that would have likely ended the game. Turner did everything he could as well to let Carolina back in and that's not even counting the two horrible decisions on our last 2 plays.

hey they beat the Super Chargers...
Orton did look solid in the first half, but it wasn't like wow! Orton you are phenomenal as some poster said it. But the 2nd half was just simply garbage, on both sides of the ball. That is what happens when you have a quarterback who is at best, an Super/Ultra time management QB. System is play to rest the D and not to win. The only times Bears looked like they were trying to win is when Forte worked his forte and played aggressive but there is only so much he can do and then the Panthers D were quick to learn and just stacked the box. Grossman isn't the only one allergic to pressure, a lot of NFL QB's go through it, and Orton got a real good sample of it today
I miss Chris Harris and was pissed he was traded. He is a stud, a guy who just wants to F'ing play nonstop.
Moose shut us up with his play... Delhomme turned it on after he got nailed by brings..Jon Stewart(d) did awesome for a 2nd stringer/ congrats on they're part
the Bears Defense seem to just suck ass when there is a 2nd/3rd stringer HB running the show.
Upsides... Bears beat the Colts and they beat the vikings...Lions lost... Brandon Lloyd had a nice game, surprised he didn't alligator any balls today.

I thought Orton was great the first half when we could stay balanced and awful the second half when we became one dimensional. We are not the greatest show on turf we cant just magically overcome holding penalties and fumbles like that .I never ever ever thought of Orton as a savior but Ill take this game a early learning experience for Orton and a offense that has been newly opened up for him.

I've calmed down a bit and I think we will make the playoffs. Still it's so disappointing to watch us dominate in one half only to choke the next half. Greg Olsen and penalties kept us from winning. Forte would have had some great stats if all his break away plays weren't called back. In most cases the holding calls didn't even help him.

Worst play callin ever at the end of that game... Had 2 chances for a yard, should of been 2 chances for Forte, that ish pissed me off.. O well i'll let it go, im now sure we are a pretty good team... We beat ourselvs

Orton sucks.. Rex is better...

bobsampson wrote::evil: Worst play callin ever at the end of that game... Had 2 chances for a yard, should of been 2 chances for Forte, that ish pissed me off.. O well i'll let it go, im now sure we are a pretty good team... We beat ourselvs

Orton sucks.. Rex is better...

The Bears actually had 3 chances to get 1 yard which makes it even more questionable as to why he didn't think to give the ball to Forte just once...especially considering he had a 9 yard run on 1st down.

Turner said he called a run with a pass checkdown on third down if there were eight men man in the box

on the 4th down they always try and call that play for Mckie but they shouldve went to Forte

they did have the idea of giving Forte the ball, but Turners IQ kicked in and said hey you can audible. Orton audible and it lead to a shiddy arse screen pass.
I'll take this as a win for winning the first half and for being the best first Half team in the NFL so far hahaha

Why did we trade Chris Harris, that guy took Garza out of his shoes several times. Orton is just horrid on deep throws, no touch or accuracy (Rex's specialty), only had to make one of those work to win this game, especially the Booker miss. Rasheid Davis inherited Moose's case of stone hands. Should've had this one.

bobsampson wrote:Orton sucks.. Rex is better...

They both suck.

orton may fit this team better has a T.M QB but if this run game is honestly working this well but in 06 when Grossman was quarterback and the run game was on, we were a RUN/PA team and it worked most of the time. 07 year we tried to do that and it was not successful(it was just as pretty as Ortons 10yard bombs hahaha) because we had two identical RBs instead of a thunder/lightning combo. I really do think Grossman will be the QB he was in 06september and kill with this offense. No QB is really perfect.. though so expect a couple INTs here and there hah
grossman > orton

I'm not too disappointed. i still think this team is good, just made some crucial errors in judgment. Obviously Greg Olsen' s TWO TURNOVERS hurt. If we remember anything from last week and the last few years, the BEARS have to win the category of the Turnovers (meaning having the least). Today the didn't, and that put the momentum in favor of the Panthers. But I'd also like to add, how its always some other RB that our Defense least suspects, and they get killed by that person.
Additionally, Ron Turner. That's been an ongoing saga. As far as Kyle Orton goes...He's not a pro-bowler. Anyone expecting that has to put down the pipe and whatever illegal drugs they are doing. I'm sure next week will be a different story. In fact I guarantee it. BEARS beat the Bucs. Its early in the season, if this team is for real, they'll take this game has a bit of humility, and use it for motivation in the games that follow. I also like to add that I'm a little worried about Hester.

First three games last season Grossman had a QB rating like 27 through the first two games Orton has a 71 .If he plays decent next week he will have easily outplayed Grossman .Today Delhomme QB rating was in the 50's and thats the key thing right there Rex's mistakes got to the point where the Bears as a football team could not over come them. I think by midseason Orton will be connecting on those long throws.

Our bread and butter is no penalties ,no turnovers, and running the football .

LLoyd was great but hes not a #1 but can be quite good as a #2

Booker is at the end of the road

Hester well he just is not a receiver

Davis killed a key drive to start the half with a drop

Olsen had 2 fumbles one in which killed a 60 yard drive into panthers territory

The Colts went nickel on passing downs against the bears two tight end sets even when they split out wide but the Panthers kept their linebackers in so why not throw bradley out there and get some more speed in the game .

I think Orton stinks. He hasn't really done anything good yet and has missed a lot of wide open WRs this week. He hasn't thrown interceptions, but that's his only positive so far. He has left a crapload of big plays on the field.

Our offense scored 7 points in this game. Our defense scored 7 and got us a turnover in FG range already for another 3. We've got a decent running game, but Orton isn't able to complement it at all. So far, I'd much rather have Rex in there not that he's a world beater either. I think with Grossman we'd have won this game pretty easily.

anyone catch the comcast postgame show where they talked about how they had numerous amounts of mail and text asking about when rex should start and why he didn't come back in the game? i think its kinda funny that all of a sudden the city starts to turn their shoulder on Orton, not completely but I say about halfway there.
Orton supporters will start to shy away from the neckbeard army and start to have clean babyfaces... and the Rex haters will have a dilemma on their mind, do you support a QB who can prolly kick farther than he throws, or rally up and support the guy who has been to hell and back again and gives us the best chance to win?

dougthonus wrote:I think Orton stinks. He hasn't really done anything good yet and has missed a lot of wide open WRs this week. He hasn't thrown interceptions, but that's his only positive so far. He has left a crapload of big plays on the field.

Our offense scored 7 points in this game. Our defense scored 7 and got us a turnover in FG range already for another 3. We've got a decent running game, but Orton isn't able to complement it at all. So far, I'd much rather have Rex in there not that he's a world beater either. I think with Grossman we'd have won this game pretty easily.

So let me ask you Doug .Orton stinks Grossman wouldve done better but lets recap

The bears had 5 first half possessions and Orton was 6-7 in the first half hitting 6 different receivers ST = special teams penalty on bears


ST

First possession - 60 yard drive killed by Olsen fumble

ST

second possession - fg

third possession - 3rd and 5 false start Garza now 3rd and 10 Orton sacked = punt

4th possession - from the bears own 9 back to back penalties on Mckie one nullifying a Forte first down run = short punt = 3pts panthers

5th possession = kneel

10-3 halftime

In the second half they had 8 possessions

first possession - Davis(wide open) drops a first down pass after a couple of Orton completions and Forte runs picked up a previous first

second possession - Touchdown

Its now 17-6

third possession - Olsen fumble

Its now 17-13 and they have the momentum

ST

4th possession - from the Bears ten 3 and out

5th possession - punt after penalty nullifying Forte run

6th possession - from the bears ten 3 and out

7th possession intentional grounding

8th possession - well that sucked all around lol


I dont get how Orton sucked ? the Bears allowing the panthers to do the same thing we do to other teams .

forcing stupid mistakes and turnovers that allow us to get the upper hand in field position and then dare their offense to have to drive 90 yards and beat our defense .

We had 12 penalties and two turnovers both by our TE .


Orton sucked at the longball but his numbers were better then Delhomme's he just is not capable of overcoming those types of mistakes yet . Its something that we should see signs of over the next couple of weeks though if he wants a future as the bears QB.

Orton averaged 4.6 yards per passing attempt.

He missed wide open receivers all game long both by not seeing them and by not completing the passes necessary to hit them. An average QB performance would have won this game for the Bears easily. There were a lot of things that went wrong that weren't Orton's fault, but he had to lead this offense to score 11 points to win this game. The defense spotted him 10 and only gave up 20.

That's not asking a whole lot out of your QB.