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Post#1 » by The Explorer » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:47 am

It could just be writer speculation, but if true, it would be great to see him replaced by someone more competant.

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Bears defensive coordinator Bob Babich on the hot seat
Fred Mitchell | AROUND TOWN
December 29, 2008

HOUSTON—Given its dismal yearlong performance, the Bears' defense figures to feature several new faces next season.

But what about the future of defensive coordinator Bob Babich?

"You'll have to talk to the coach about that," Babich said after his unit allowed a season-high 455 yards during Sunday's 31-24 loss to the Texans. "Anytime you lose a game of this importance … it means something. Once again, as players and coaches, we take this one hard. It's a big game, we didn't play well and that's the bottom line."

More often than not the Bears' defense would both bend and break this season. The most telling sequence Sunday occurred when the Bears trailed 24-17 midway through the fourth quarter. The Texans took over at their own 11-yard line and marched 89 yards for a touchdown.

That drive included a 47-yard run by Steve Slaton, who ended the drive with a 2-yard TD score.

"For them to take it down and score was a blow to us," Babich said. "At that time they were passing the ball very well. We were stopping the run pretty good at that time.

"That was one that hurt us."

Houston's Pro Bowl receiver Andre Johnson had a field day, catching 10 passes for 148 yards and two TDs.

"I'm a guy who takes responsibility for things that go wrong," Babich said. "It's very disappointing."
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Post#2 » by bobsampson » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:54 am

Good, he needs to go
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Post#3 » by WEFFPIM » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:32 am

Something happened in 2 years to turn this defense into a sieve. Age plays some part as do injuries, but I don't think it's a coincidence this has been the Babich tenure.

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Post#4 » by nitetrain8603 » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:38 am

It's been a combo of both Babich and players being exposed. Urlacher is a shell of his former self and should've never gotten that big extension. The Bears have a bunch of #3 CB's on their team including at S, and their skilled positions need a huge upgrade on the offense. One thing is clear though, letting go of Rivera was a mistake.
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Post#5 » by Posey H8er » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:09 pm

The system is being read too easily and the players know it. The system needs a change and Babich needs to go.
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Post#6 » by The Explorer » Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:06 pm

Who would Lovie replace him with? Rod Marinelli? How bout Romeo Crennel? Mangini? lol
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Post#7 » by Chewie » Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:10 pm

I vote for any d-coordinator that doesn't advocate our corners giving 15yd cushions off the line of scrimmage.

That's a start.
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Post#8 » by DanTown8587 » Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:15 pm

All I want in a D-coordinator is someone who can call their own plays, blitz on all three downs and finally stop giving cushions to just let guys run buy and score touchdowns.
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Post#9 » by WEFFPIM » Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:18 am

Personally I want to see a coordinator that decides to use a pass rush on 3rd and longs.
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Post#10 » by Chewie » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:49 pm

WEFFPIM wrote:Personally I want to see a coordinator that decides to use a pass rush on 3rd and longs.


I think your problem is with Mark "1 sack" Anderson, not Babich.

He saw the field waaaay too much to have only 1 sack.
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Post#11 » by WEFFPIM » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:47 pm

Chewie wrote:
WEFFPIM wrote:Personally I want to see a coordinator that decides to use a pass rush on 3rd and longs.


I think your problem is with Mark "1 sack" Anderson, not Babich.

He saw the field waaaay too much to have only 1 sack.


No, my problem is seeing only 4 guys try for the quarterback and every 3rd and long situation.
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Post#12 » by Chewie » Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:19 pm

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Chewie wrote:
WEFFPIM wrote:Personally I want to see a coordinator that decides to use a pass rush on 3rd and longs.


I think your problem is with Mark "1 sack" Anderson, not Babich.

He saw the field waaaay too much to have only 1 sack.


No, my problem is seeing only 4 guys try for the quarterback and every 3rd and long situation.


I'm pretty sure no team blitzes more than the Bears. They're just not good at it.
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Post#13 » by ChronicKerr » Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:47 pm

[quote="DanTown8587"]All I want in a D-coordinator is someone who can call their own plays, blitz on all three downs and finally stop giving cushions to just let guys run buy and score touchdowns.[/quote]

We DID blitz more than any team in the league I believe, it was part of the problem. It's part of the reason our pass defense was so terrible this year bc we just weren't very good at our blitz schemes. Our front 4 not putting much pressure on the QB didn't help as well. I wonder if Wale, Brown, and Tommie are all going to stay starters going into next year. I'm assuming they are but if we continue to not put pressure on the QB the problem won't correct itself. Are any of the fired head coaches good candidates for D-Coordinator?? I know Rod is but what other candidates are out there?
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Post#14 » by chitownsports4ever » Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:05 pm

Found this on Chicao Bears.com from Larry Mayers


The Bears allowed 30 touchdowns and 17 field goals on 55 red-zone trips this season. The three previous years, they permitted 27 TDs and 12 field goals on 52 trips in 2007, 19 TDs and 13 field goals on 40 trips in 2006, and 13 TDs and 16 field goals on 40 trips in 2005. Breaking down the numbers, the Bears red zone defense has declined steadily over the past four seasons. Red-zone possessions went from 40 to 40 to 52 to 55, touchdowns increased from 13 to 19 to 27 to 30, and touchdown percentage went from 32.5 to 47.5 to 51.9 to 54.5.


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Post#15 » by The Explorer » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:06 pm

Not exactly a vote of confidence from Angelo.

Bears general manager Jerry Angelo gave his postseason assessment today, and as votes of confidence go, Bob Babich and Kyle Orton probably can't feel too comfortable.

In fact, the way Angelo talked up former Lions coach Rod Marinelli, Babich may wonder how much longer he'll be with the Bears.

Here is what Angelo had to say:


On Marinelli:

"I think the world of Rod Marinelli. I would have to have Rod Marinelli on our staff, and I think Lovie would say the same thing.

"He's a great football coach. Anytime you have a chance to get a great coach or a great player you're not going to say you wouldn't consider that. But that's premature. I do know Rod and I think he is a very good coach and will be a great addition to any staff."


On defensive coordinator Bob Babich:

"When you're not playing consistent football, you're job is not good enough. You have to be consistent in this league. If you're going to win you have to be consistent. We weren't consistent.

"Those are things we'll get into. I don't want to go further than that because we haven't talked about anything.

"I don't know what all the issues are. There are things that are going to be shared with me that will give me things to think about. We do need to come to an agreement at the end of the day and once we agree on something, we'll make it work.

"I can't say all the things I feel to you today. We'll be very honest. We see what you see. We'll be very objective. And things that need to be changed will be changed."


On quarterback Kyle Orton:

"I'm not convinced 100 percent obviously. I believe in Kyle, but until he puts a good year together we can't say for sure. I saw some really good things out of Kyle, particuarly early on in the season. He didn't have the second half that he had in the first half. Is that part of growing pains that come along with the position? I can't answer that right now. We really buy into Kyle the person. He showed an exemplary work ethic. Leadership to be voted captain by your peers is a good thing. But he's still a work in progress. We have time and going to take our time and will have to wait and see.

"I think we have to have competition at that position. We have to keep an eye on that position, more than any. We have to get that position right. I know there's going to be a lot of talk about a No. 1 receiver, but it starts with the quarterback. It's all about the quarterback. You don't win because of wide receivers. You don't win because of running backs. You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that.

"I don't want us to lose sight of that.

"I don't know [who he might go after]until I know who's out there. If we feel that's our best option then we have to look at it very seriously. That position has to get righted. The offense starts with the quarterback. We know it's the most valuable position on the football team. We've gone through so many scenarios at that position we can write a book, moreso on what not do.

"But I do have confidence in Kyle. I don't want anyone coming out of this thinking we don't believe in Kyle. We do believe in Kyle. But he has to take another step. That's the bottom line.

"You're seeing more and more recycled quarterbacks do well. This year was the "over the hill quarterback gang." When you look at [Gus] Frerotte, [Kerry] Collins, what Kurt Warner did. It's amazing. Looks like it could from anywhere at any age now.

"Is it all on his shoulders? No. You still have to block and run the football. You still have to catch.


Other thoughts:

"Not a good time. We anticipated playing this week, unfortunately it didn't work out that way.

"We'll never be accepting mediocrity. We had a 9-7 season. I know that's a winning season, but we didn't make the playoffs and fell short of our goal. Our goal is to be a competitive football team. ... From there, we want to win our division. That's a very realistic goal. You're never going to hear me say rebuilding or have to take a step backward. ...

"Nobody gave Atlanta any chance this year, coming in with a rookie quarterback and doing the things that they did. It happen and it happens every year. Every year we expect to win.

"Very disappointed with way season ended, especially with us having some control over our destiny, but it didn't work.

"So we're here now and moving forward.

"We haven't made the playoffs the last two years and it is bothersome. We do feel that pressure, and we are going to work very hard in the offseason.

"If changes needed to be made, changes will be made. Sometimes change might come in the form of your approach and what you're doing.

"I'm very confident we have a good core of players in place. We'll add players, but if we didn't add anybody, we'll still be a good football team. And I feel very strongly about that."


On Lovie Smith saying the Bears are close: "What I construe that statement to mean is Lovie is a great leader, and all great leaders create hope. He does not want anybody, our fans or our players thinking there isn't hope. That's what he meant. Nobody is any more competitive than Lovie. He is driven to win.

"The Green Bay game up there is the only game we weren't ready to play.

"The disappointment in the defense was the inconsistency in the defense.

"I am disappointed with a few players. And those players are going to have to be accountable for what they do. I'm not going to get into names. But that's the bottom line. That's being part of a team. If you're part of a team, you're giving your best each and every day. And that's not asking too much. That's expected.

"I'm not hesitant to cut anybody. I don't let money get in the way of doing what's right for the football team. Egg on my face doesn't bother me. Guys in the locker room who aren't producing or aren't good karma, does. Whatever we need to do, we will do to be the best we can be. We make mistakes. That's part of the game.


"Until [draft picks] play we can't sit here and say what they are or what they aren't. I want all of our draft picks to play. I think there were five who played and when they played they all contributed, which was a good sign to see. But in Earl [Bennett's] case he didn't get a chance to play. That was a coaching decision. I tell our coaches to put the best players on the field to give us the best chance to win on Sunday. That's their call. They live with the players, go to meetings with the players, that's their job. I'm not.


"The one person I do believe in in terms of everyday is Brian Urlacher. I will never question his commitment, his passion or his love for football. He has too much character, too much pride to not be the best he can be.

"Is he the Brian Urlacher of old? I can't say that. Can he still make a Pro Bowl? He still has enough to make a Pro Bowl. He's still a very good football player. I have to go with what I see on tape. But I have a lot of confidence in Brian. He's been a great player for the Chicago Bears, a great leader for us. I respect him immensely. And you have to look at the total package when you evaluate a player.

"With Tommie [Harris}, he's had a lot of thing go on. And about the midway point of the season, things started to settle down for him. I thought we saw a lot better Tommie Harris particularly in the last quarter of the season. I feel strongly he's going to give us the type of season we paid him for. I feel very strongly about that.

"There's never been a No. 1 receiver and a No. 1 kick returner. I anticipated the potential of Devin's returns to fall off given the fact we were going to escalate his play time at receiver. We wanted to escalate his play time, and his returns did suffer. Is that to say the absolute reason why? I don't know. Teams got better and did a lot more studying. He wasn't the returner we saw in the last couple years. I'm going to look at that real hard. One thing we know is he's a playmaker, and when you have a playmaker, you want to make sure you get him the ball to make as many plays as he can on Sunday."
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Post#16 » by Chewie » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:50 pm

:o

Interesting comments on Babich and Orton to say the least.
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Post#17 » by ChronicKerr » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:14 am

Steven Wilks, the Bears DB's coach has just been fired per ESPN 1000
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Post#18 » by SportsWorld » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:22 am

Would love to bring in Marinelli as a defensive line coach.
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Post#19 » by NoSkyy » Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:53 am

SportsWorld wrote:Would love to bring in Marinelli as a defensive line coach.


I think they're thinking about even him taking some defensive play calling responsbities...that's interesting.
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Post#20 » by Chewie » Sun Jan 4, 2009 1:43 am

Well, lookie who just paid us a visit....

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/01/hot_rod_marinelli_at_halas_hal.html#more


Hot Rod: Marinelli at Halas Hall to discuss job with Smith
By Brad Biggs
on January 2, 2009 2:15 PM

Lovie Smith could complete the next move on his coaching staff by the end of the weekend but the agent for the men involved said nothing will happen that fast.

Rod Marinelli is in town today and will meet with Smith and team officials at Halas Hall. It's fully expected in league circles that he will join the Bears' staff although in what capacity and with what specific title is unknown.

"He's just visiting,'' Frank Bauer told the Sun-Times. ``Rod has a number of opportunities and he is seeing Lovie and they're sitting down and talking. It's a visit.''

Bauer represents both Marinelli and Smith, as well as coordinators Bob Babich and Ron Turner, and has intimate knowledge of the team's inner workings. He cautioned that it isn't a done deal.

Bauer would not expand on the other possibilities Marinelli has but this is the first place he's gone in search of a new gig.

``I just think Rod wanted to go up and take a look and see what they're doing," Bauer said. "He came off a tough situation in Detroit and we're going to take our time. He and Lovie are very good friends, they're best friends.''

Marinelli would be charged with turning around the defensive line with an eye toward getting three-time Pro Bowler Tommie Harris and one-time pass rushing threat Mark Anderson back to form.

Marinelli and Smith have an extensive history together from their days together in Tampa Bay and Marinelli was the first choice of Smith and general manager Jerry Angelo to be the defensive coordinator when Smith was hired in 2004. Smith served as the linebackers coach for the Buccaneers and Marinelli was regarded as one of the finest line coaches in the league. Babich remains the defensive coordinator and is expected to remain on staff.

``I would rather not say,'' Bauer said when asked if Marinelli was seeking a job as a defensive coordinator. ``I wouldn't think necessarily so.''

Marinelli was fired as coach of the Detroit Lions after three seasons on Monday Bauer said that day that the Bears ``would make a lot of sense'' for his client.

Angelo practically made a recruiting pitch for Marinelli is his press conference on Tuesday.

``I think the world of Rod Marinelli,'' Angelo said. ``I would love to have Rod Marinelli on our staff and I think Lovie would say the same thing. He's a great football coach. Anytime you get a chance to get a great coach or great player, you're not going to sit here and say that you wouldn't consider him or you wouldn't work a way to do that.''

So far, Smith's only move has been to fire defensive backs coach Steve Wilks, who clashed at times with Babich. If Marinelli comes on board it could lead to the dismissal of line coach Brick Haley. The line is in need of a revamping after the defense struggled to rank 21st in the league with no consistent pass rush from the front four. Harris underperformed after signing a $40 million, four-year extension and went through a turbulent season that included a one-game team suspension. Anderson hasn't been the same player since he was runner-up for defensive rookie of the year honors in 2006. He had 12 sacks that season and has made just six since with only one this past year.

Marinelli could land a title such as associated head coach but Bauer repeated nothing is set even though word around the league is something is already in place. Marinelli's defense ranked 32nd the last two seasons in Detroit, which is obligated to pay him for one more season. He would become the fourth line coach in six seasons under Smith and Wilks' replacement will also be the fourth defensive backs coach in that span. Wilks should be credited with the development of cornerback Corey Graham.
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