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So, would you guys trade employee #54 & a 3rd for Boldin 

Post#1 » by SLCceltic » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:03 pm

I'd have to pull the trigger

I think a change of scenery and a new scheme would up Urlacher's game
Hes not done by any means, but just doesnt get it done here like he has in past seasons

Bouldin would be a top tier #1 and Hester wouldnt have to take on our passing game by himself

I am an Urlacher man to the bone, but this would help us a ton
our defense last season ranked in the 20's, how much worse could it get without him
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Re: So, would you guys trade employee #54 for Boldin and a third 

Post#2 » by shugknight » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:18 pm

First off, you have to ask yourself if the Cards would trade Bolding and a 3rd rounder for Urlacher...

And that's EASILY a no.

I dont even think the Cards would accept if WE, the bears, traded Urlacher AND a 3rd rounder for Boldin.

People need to stop overvaluing Urlacher.

That reporter on wiretap doesn't know what he's talking about. No way the Cards would ever accept Urlacher for Boldin. We'd need to include at least a couple picks..
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Re: So, would you guys trade employee #54 for Boldin and a third 

Post#3 » by NoSkyy » Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:18 am

Ignoring if the Cardinals woudl do it, I would have to.

We are in an absolutely perfect position at 18 to draft some absolute monster LBs/MLBs that can be stars in the league. I think we can more easily replace Brian Urlacher than find a star WR.
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Post#4 » by Chi Dynasty12 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:26 pm

I think we'd be trading the picks along with Urlacher, not the other way around. Our franchise has too much respect for Url to trade him, so it's only fair to get his permission before shipping him. I'd pull the trigger and draft Cushing.
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Re: So, would you guys trade employee #54 for Boldin and a third 

Post#5 » by emperorjones » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:43 pm

Nope. We can get another WR for less. Our offense would not utilize an asset like that anyway IMO. I'd ratehr get a steady WR than an unused star and put the extra money into the O-line giving KO time to throw.
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Re: So, would you guys trade employee #54 for Boldin and a third 

Post#6 » by Cliff Levingston » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:57 pm

emperorjones wrote:Nope. We can get another WR for less. Our offense would not utilize an asset like that anyway IMO. I'd ratehr get a steady WR than an unused star and put the extra money into the O-line giving KO time to throw.

Urlacher is 31, getting paid a lot and is coming off two pretty bad years of football. Cliff Levingston can't find any reason not to trade for a 28 year old pro bowl receiver. Anquan would go a long way in helping both Orton and Hester become better players themselves.
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Re: So, would you guys trade employee #54 for Boldin and a third 

Post#7 » by SLCceltic » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:07 pm

This would be a win-win for both clubs
I can think of many reasons why the cards sign off on this

Boldin wants out.
Urlacher will significantly upgrade their defense----he hasnt fallen off as much as Briggs has become the man

Now if we we're asking for fitz i could understand any opinion about the cards not wanting to sign off
Arizona made it to the SP w/o bouldin ala Shockey-----what did the giants end up getting for shock

Urlacher plays everygame and will get a boost in a new scheme
Major defensive name recognition will help in the draft and FA

the cards need D, and we need a true #1 to take all the pressure off hester
win-win; I pray this picks up some steam
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Re: So, would you guys trade employee #54 for Boldin and a third 

Post#8 » by WEFFPIM » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:38 pm

The trade in the title won't ever happen. Urlacher + pick for Boldin would be more inclined to happen, and I'd do that in a heartbeat.
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Re: So, would you guys trade employee #54 for Boldin and a third 

Post#9 » by dingojazz » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:02 pm

I'm surprised how quickly everyone is jumping on this trade. I too would love to see Boldin in a Bears uniform, and I agree that he would help Orton and Hester tremendously.

But this is Brian mother effing Urlacher we're talking about here. I know he is 31, I know he is on the decline in his career. and hasn't made as many big plays as we're used to seeing. However, this dude can still play some ball, he can still be a leader, and he is the face of our freaking franchise! He is the glue of our defense (especially without Mike Brown) the guy who calls the shots and holds others accountable. I don't think Briggs would be as dominant without playing next to him.

Who is everyone proposing should start at Middle Backer? Nick Roach with Hunter back to strong side? Jamar Williams? Keep fingers crossed that Ray M from USC falls to us at 18 and then count on a rookie starting? And ya'll are willing to give up a pick too that we desperately need for all our holes? DAMN!

I would much rather sign Housh as a free agent, keep our picks, and keep Urlacher...I think you all have hurt Brian's feelings and should apologize.
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Re: So, would you guys trade employee #54 for Boldin and a third 

Post#10 » by WEFFPIM » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:39 am

dingojazz wrote:I'm surprised how quickly everyone is jumping on this trade. I too would love to see Boldin in a Bears uniform, and I agree that he would help Orton and Hester tremendously.

But this is Brian mother effing Urlacher we're talking about here. I know he is 31, I know he is on the decline in his career. and hasn't made as many big plays as we're used to seeing. However, this dude can still play some ball, he can still be a leader, and he is the face of our freaking franchise! He is the glue of our defense (especially without Mike Brown) the guy who calls the shots and holds others accountable. I don't think Briggs would be as dominant without playing next to him.

Who is everyone proposing should start at Middle Backer? Nick Roach with Hunter back to strong side? Jamar Williams? Keep fingers crossed that Ray M from USC falls to us at 18 and then count on a rookie starting? And ya'll are willing to give up a pick too that we desperately need for all our holes? DAMN!

I would much rather sign Housh as a free agent, keep our picks, and keep Urlacher...I think you all have hurt Brian's feelings and should apologize.


If you're still surprised, there you go. No denying Urlacher's impact on the team in the past, but that's exactly what it is, past impact. He was all but invisible this season and was almost more of a liability on the field than an asset, missing tackles, misreading routes, etc. Lance Briggs has taken over the linebacking core with force, and as long as you have him there, I'm fine with whomever the other two might be.

I think there's plenty of Bears fans out there who are still hung up on the Urlacher of old, the beast of a linebacker that offenses changed schemes for. As you coin it, "Brian mother effing Urlacher." He's not that anymore. If you can trade him for one of the best wideouts in the game, and fill quite possibly the biggest hole on this roster, then you do it.

As far as the draft pick is concerned, it's obviously the only way Arizona does it. But also, what sort of production has the draft given this team thusfar? One could argue that the draft, in the grand scheme of things, isn't that important to the construction of this roster. Sure, the 3rd round is prime real estate to find that "diamond in the rough," but how often does that happen? This offseason, I personally think the Bears aren't looking to do a long-term rebuild using the draft, but a quick "get this team contending now" rebuild via trades and free agent signings.

So there's my two cents. While I appreciate what Urlacher has brought to this franchise over the years, if adding Anquan Boldin means cutting him loose, I'm fine with that.
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Re: So, would you guys trade employee #54 for Boldin and a third 

Post#11 » by NoSkyy » Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:12 am

There's a ridiculous amount of good linebackers in this draft. Among them are Brian Cushing, Rey M, and James Laurantis(too lazy to spell his name correctly), I actually find MLB one of the easier positions to fill through the draft. (Joe Beason, Patrick Willis, Keith Rivers I blame you guys)
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Post#12 » by dingojazz » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:12 pm

NoSkyy wrote:There's a ridiculous amount of good linebackers in this draft. Among them are Brian Cushing, Rey M, and James Laurantis(too lazy to spell his name correctly), I actually find MLB one of the easier positions to fill through the draft. (Joe Beason, Patrick Willis, Keith Rivers I blame you guys)


A guy like Beason, Willis, or Rivers would be a great replacement to Urlacher. Of the 3, only Beason was drafted lower than 18th.

As for this year's rookie class, the 3 guys you mentioned are all gone before we pick in this mock draft...

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?campai ... 5d80ec895c

I'm just saying if we do trade Urlacher, linebacker would become a huge need, and we couldn't count on finding a guy in the draft to take that spot right away. And I don't think his replacement is on our current roster.

It's like filling one hole to create another one.
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Post#13 » by dingojazz » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:28 pm

WEFFPIM wrote:As far as the draft pick is concerned, it's obviously the only way Arizona does it. But also, what sort of production has the draft given this team thusfar? One could argue that the draft, in the grand scheme of things, isn't that important to the construction of this roster. Sure, the 3rd round is prime real estate to find that "diamond in the rough," but how often does that happen? This offseason, I personally think the Bears aren't looking to do a long-term rebuild using the draft, but a quick "get this team contending now" rebuild via trades and free agent signings.


I agree with your comments about Urlacher's decline and how much Boldin would fill a major need. But to say the draft isn't that important to the construction of the roster? I would say it is the most important part. Here are some notable picks in the last several years rounds 2-4.

Matt Forte
Marcus Harrison
Devin Hester
Dusty Dvoracek
Kyle Orton
Bernard Berrian
Nate Vasher
Charles TIllman
Lance Briggs
Alex Brown

The Bears value draft picks very highly and rarely give them up. I believe this is the reason that we have had so much success on special teams. In those middle rounds the Bears look for guys who can make an impact on special teams. Guys like:

Garrett Wolfe
Jamar WIlliams
Craig Stelz
Kellen Davis
Leon Joe

Traditionally when we win, its because of a great defense and special teams along with a serviceable offense. Not because of a potential 80 catch, 1200 yard receiver.
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Re: So, would you guys trade employee #54 for Boldin and a third 

Post#14 » by SLCceltic » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:09 pm

WEFFPIM wrote:The trade in the title won't ever happen. Urlacher + pick for Boldin would be more inclined to happen, and I'd do that in a heartbeat.


My bad; I actually meant we'd give up the third---poor proof-reading on my part...........I'll try and change the title
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Re: So, would you guys trade employee #54 & a 3rd for Boldin 

Post#15 » by SLCceltic » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:51 pm

Management has shown a ton of restraint in keeping and acquiring picks and it has helped us to establish a great core; but its not enough-----we have a great core but its time to bring in some proven guys instead of picks
Its OK to do that every few years or so

Needs:
QB, a pass rusher, and an offensive playmaker of Boldin's caliber.............Top, Top, Top priority; these acquisitions are worth this years entire draft ( & some of next years if necessary) IMO and would fill in shortages in a lot of other needed areas.

Other needed areas:
Right O-line
SS
LB (if proposed trade went down)
CB or 2 that excel in pass coverage
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Re: So, would you guys trade employee #54 for Boldin and a third 

Post#16 » by NoSkyy » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:01 am

dingojazz wrote:
NoSkyy wrote:There's a ridiculous amount of good linebackers in this draft. Among them are Brian Cushing, Rey M, and James Laurantis(too lazy to spell his name correctly), I actually find MLB one of the easier positions to fill through the draft. (Joe Beason, Patrick Willis, Keith Rivers I blame you guys)


A guy like Beason, Willis, or Rivers would be a great replacement to Urlacher. Of the 3, only Beason was drafted lower than 18th.

As for this year's rookie class, the 3 guys you mentioned are all gone before we pick in this mock draft...

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?campai ... 5d80ec895c

I'm just saying if we do trade Urlacher, linebacker would become a huge need, and we couldn't count on finding a guy in the draft to take that spot right away. And I don't think his replacement is on our current roster.

It's like filling one hole to create another one.


There's plenty of mock drafts that have Rey/James falling to us. And if they don't, that means one of the Stud tackles or another area of need has fallen closer. I just do not believe we will be able to get a stud WR over a stud LB (plus whatever) in the draft.
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Re: So, would you guys trade employee #54 & a 3rd for Boldin 

Post#17 » by Chewie » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:32 pm

A lot of conversation for a trade that's never going to happen.

Waste of time....
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