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Bears offered St. Clair 3/years $13.5 million?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:43 pm
by emperorjones
AND HE HASN'T SIGNED?!?!

BY BRAD BIGGS bbiggs@suntimes.com

John St. Clair might be signing soon, and it might not be with the Bears.

The veteran offensive lineman, who became an unrestricted free agent this offseason, is expected to visit the Cleveland Browns today while the Bears report to Halas Hall for physicals in advance of the minicamp that begins Tuesday. The Bears have been in contact with St. Clair's representatives for weeks but haven't moved off the three-year, $4.5 million offer they gave him Feb. 13....The Bears are offering him No. 3 tackle money, so it's easy to understand the divide.


I say screw that and go OT in the 1st or second round. Or see if Orlando Pace is willing to play RT for the $6 million the Rams were paying him. Is that what below average OTs get now? (Pass my son another steak. Daddy's got an idea!)

Re: Bears offered St. Clair 3/years $13.5 million?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:42 pm
by ChronicKerr
I'm confused. did they offer him 3 years for 13.5 or 3 years for 4.5 total? I couldn't tell if they meant 4.5 per or not.

Re: Bears offered St. Clair 3/years $13.5 million?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:46 pm
by emperorjones
OH! you're probably right. I didn't even think they could have just offered $1.5 million per year. Ooops! :oops:

Re: Bears offered St. Clair 3/years $13.5 million?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:12 pm
by Cliff Levingston
emperorjones wrote:OH! you're probably right. I didn't even think they could have just offered $1.5 million per year. Ooops! :oops:

If that's the case, then Cliff Levingston doesn't blame big John for turning that down. He's better than that (although not THAT much better). He should probably get around $2.5 mil per year on average.

Re: Bears offered St. Clair 3/years $13.5 million?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:52 pm
by Chewie
I took it to mean $4.5m total over 3 years. St. Clair should be looking elsewhere if that's the offer given it's for a starting RT position. That's clearly not starter money. If they don't up it, they're basically telling St. Clair goodbye (which wouldn't be the end of the world) but reserve the option to say they tried.

Briggs lists the other options below. FWIW, I couldn't find a single Browns poster to say anything positive about Shaffer. Omiyale looking like a good option.

What they'll find in the third week of free agency is a long list of players long in the tooth, players with injury baggage or both.

Here is an incomplete list of possibilities with the player's last team listed:

George Foster, Detroit. He's visited Cincinnati already. The Bears got an up-close look at how vulnerable he was twice a season.

Adam Goldberg, St. Louis. Seemed to improve once he left Minnesota. Has visited Cleveland and could return to the Rams.

Kwame Harris, Oakland. Offensive tackle might have a good strike ratio when it comes to first-round picks. Here's an example of a first-round miss.

Orlando Pace, St. Louis. His Pro Bowls seem obscured by injuries of late, although he was on the field most of last season. He's strictly been a left tackle.

Jon Runyan, Philadelphia. A beast in his prime, Runyan might not be healthy.

Ephraim Salaam, Houston. Before the Bears signed Fred Miller in 2005, they made a run at Salaam.

Kevin Shaffer, Cleveland. Has plenty of experience starting, particularly on the right side.

Marvel Smith, Pittsburgh. Back issues are biggest question for one-time Pro Bowl performer. He drew interest in Baltimore and Oakland.

Mark Tauscher, Green Bay. Knee surgery might keep him on the shelf until some time in the season.

Other options that are not on the market, the open market that is:

Jonas Jennings, San Francisco. It's doubtful he returns to the Niners after some injury-wrecked seasons. In fact, he's been informed he isn't in the team's plans. That would indicate Jennings will likely be released.

Levi Jones, Cincinnati. The Bengals are actively working to trade Jones. If they can't deal him, they'll probably cut him. Like Pace, he's been a left tackle.

Another alternative would be to use Frank Omiyale, the Bears first free-agent signing, at right tackle. He's primarily played tackle in four seasons in the league but Angelo said the Bears want to look at him first at guard. He's expected to compete immediately at left guard with Josh Beekman.

Re: Bears offered St. Clair 3/years $13.5 million?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:35 pm
by Icness
St. Clair wants to be back, but he really thought the offer was lowball. I don't get why Cleveland would pay him more than that to be their 3rd tackle, but they appear hellbent on becoming Denver of the Great Lakes.

Of all those guys listed, Kevin Shaffer should be option A and milking one last year out of Pace should be plan B. Frank Omiyale is not a starter, period. He was barely hanging on as a backup. Shaffer isn't the greatest but he does a lot of things pretty well.