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Interesting post - Jerry Angelo Draft Success Rate

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:44 pm
by emperorjones
Got this off another Bears board (No I am not cheating on you guys...yet :wink: )

almost never post but I read often. I do this every couple years when people start saying that Angelo can't draft. I don't necessarily intend to argue that point one way or the other, but I like to bring up some statistical evidence for the group to debate.

Here are my calculations. It's all based on the definition of success. Rd 1-3 should be a starter or better. Rd 4-7 should be depth or better. More info on that below.

Star-divide


Definition of Success


To quantify the success of a draft, I've developed 5 classes of players in the NFL. Each draft pick will be assigned to one of the classes for calculation purposes. This is the only “human judgment” that takes place. I'll generally assign the pick to the highest level that they achieved, but there is some judgment involved there (you'll notice I did not call Craig Krenzel a starter).

ProBowl: Player has made the PB
Starter: Player has been a regular starter
Depth: Player provided quality depth
Fodder: Player limited mainly to ST or buried in roster
Out of NFL: Player didn't stick on the roster

Round 1-3: Starter or better (60.9% success rate)
Round 4-7: Depth or better (45.0% success rate)

Rd 1 Success Rate = 85.7%
Rd 2 Success Rate = 71.4%
Rd 3 Success Rate = 33.3%
Rd 4 Success Rate = 77.8%
Rd 5 Success Rate = 61.5%
Rd 6 Success Rate = 25%
Rd 7 Success Rate = 10%

I've assigned every pick Angelo has made (his first draft was 2002 when our first pck was Marc Columbo). There are certainly some decisions that could be questioned. Here's how I've classified them:

2008
1 Chris Williams - Starter
2 Matt Forte - Starter
3 Earl Bennett - Fodder
3 Marcus Harrison - Depth
4 Craig Steltz - Depth
5 Zack Bowman - Depth
5 Kellen Davis - Depth
7 Ervin Baldwin – Out of NFL
7 Chester Adams – Out of NFL
7 Joey LaRocque - Fodder
7 Kirk Barton - Fodder
7 Marcus Monk - Fodder


2007
1 Greg Olsen - Starter
2 Dan Bazuin – Out of NFL
3 Garrett Wolfe – Depth
3 Michael Okwo – Out of NFL
4 Josh Beekman - Starter
5 Kevin Payne - Starter
5 Corey Graham – Depth
7 Trumaine McBride – Depth
7 Aaron Brant – Out of NFL


2006
2 Danieal Manning - Starter
2 Devin Hester – ProBowl
3 Dusty Dvoracek - Starter
4 Jamar Williams – Depth
5 Mark Anderson – Depth
6 J.D. Runnels – Out of NFL
6 Tyler Reed - Fodder


2005
1 Cedric Benson - Starter
2 Mark Bradley – Depth
4 Kyle Orton - Starter
5 Airese Currie – Out of NFL
6 Chris Harris - Starter
7 Rod Wilson - Fodder


2004
1 Tommie Harris - ProBowl
2 Tank Johnson - Starter
3 Bernard Berrian - Starter
4 Nathan Vasher – ProBowl
4 Leon Joe - Fodder
5 Claude Harriott – Out of NFL
5 Craig Krenzel – Out of NFL
7 Alfonso Marshall – Out of NFL

2003
1 Michael Haynes – Out of NFL
1 Rex Grossman - Starter
2 Charles Tillman - Starter
3 Lance Briggs – ProBowl
4 Todd Johnson - Fodder
4 Ian Scott - Starter
5 Bobby Wade – Depth
5 Justin Gage - Starter
5 Tron LaFavor – Out of NFL
6 Joe Odom - Fodder
6 Brock Forsey – Out of NFL
7 Bryan Anderson – Out of NFL


2002
1 Marc Colombo - Starter
3 Roe Williams – Out of NFL
3 Terrence Metcalf – Depth
4 Alex Brown - Starter
5 Bobby Gray – Depth
5 Bryan Knight – Out of NFL
6 Adrian Peterson – Depth
6 Jamin Elliott – Out of NFL
6 Bryan Fletcher – Out of NFL

Re: Interesting post - Jerry Angelo Draft Success Rate

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:16 pm
by Chewie
Hmm. He lists Ervin Baldwin as out of the NFL and Monk as fodder. I thought we still had Baldwin on the roster and Monk was out of the NFL. At any rate, looking at those percentages, I'm sure Angelo is probably pretty darn average versus his peers when it comes to drafting.

His lack of success in finding a franchise QB is just glaring, though.

Re: Interesting post - Jerry Angelo Draft Success Rate

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:05 pm
by Cliff Levingston
That 2002 draft outside of Alex Brown was pretty brutal for us. Not sure if Rex Grossman deserves to be called a starter either.