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Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Thu Jun 4, 2009 5:54 pm
by Chewie
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football ... 04.article

Bears players would love to land Plaxico Burress
TALENT FIRST | If Angelo adds WR, Bears see no trouble from Burress

June 4, 2009
BY BRAD BIGGS bbiggs@suntimes.com

Jerry Angelo's door remains open when it comes to adding a veteran wide receiver. Bears players would like to say ''come on in'' to Plaxico Burress.

The general manager has not ruled out anything, and in an offseason like none the franchise has seen, everything is in play eight weeks before training camp. That includes Burress, the former New York Giants receiver who remains without a team while the NFL waits to see how his gun charge proceeds in New York courts.

Burress could be the final piece in a vast reshaping of the roster over the last two months, keyed by the April 2 trade for quarterback Jay Cutler. It was shortly after the deal that Burress told Bears' radio sideline reporter Zach Zaidman that Cutler had made what amounted to a recruiting call. Why not? He's a big wide receiver with big-play credentials and he would instantly take pressure off Devin Hester and the unproven first- and second-year players Cutler otherwise will count on.

''I feel pretty comfortable with what we have here right now," Hester said. ''If we added Plaxico Burress, that's only going to build confidence even more. Why wouldn't he help us?''

On Wednesday, Angelo kept open the possibility of fortifying the position.

''I can't say that it's 50-50 or anything like that,'' he told the team's Web site. ''We plan on going into training camp with what we have right now.''

Just like the Bears planned on going with Kyle Orton as their quarterback. Things happened.

Agent Drew Rosenhaus did not return a phone call seeking comment, but he announced last week that three teams have inquired about Burress. They are believed to be the Bears, Jets and Buccaneers. If Angelo is going to make a late addition to the position, Burress is the most talented player available. He has averaged 15.5 yards per catch in his career.

His ability at 31 isn't the issue, it's whether he will be available. He faces up to 3½ years in jail for carrying an unlicensed handgun in Manhattan last November, the one that he accidentally put a hole in his leg with at a nightclub. Burress' next court date is June 15, and Giants play-by-play man Bob Papa reported he already has turned down a plea that would have put him behind bars for two months. It's not inconceivable that his legal situation will be resolved by the start of the season.

While the court side of this issue is the biggest hurdle, Burress also could face a suspension from commissioner Roger Goodell. But even if Burress is out till midseason, he could help in the stretch.

There have been reports that Burress was constantly at odds with Giants coach Tom Coughlin. Bears players in leadership roles don't foresee that as an issue.

''I have played here all my career so I don't know the standard anywhere else but the standard here is set and it's not going to change for anybody,'' defensive end Alex Brown said. ''If he comes here, then he'll have to do what we do and live up to those standards. Plax, hey, who wouldn't want that guy on their team? He's a great player.''

Tight end Desmond Clark said word is there aren't any problems with Burress.

''Talent is talent,'' Clark said. ''But the one thing you don't want are bad guys. Just from people I talk to, everybody says he is a really, really good guy.''

The Giants' offense wasn't the same last season minus Burress down the stretch, and teammates bemoaned his absence.

''If a guy like that gets in trouble and he's not around the team, if people didn't like him, they would take their shots at him right there,'' Clark said. ''Nobody took a shot at Plaxico. He's going to sign with somebody, no doubt, because he is a great talent.

''From everything I know, he just made a couple stupid mistakes. That doesn't make him a bad guy. If he was to come here, we would welcome him. Why wouldn't we?''

For now, Earl Bennett is projected to start opposite Hester. The Bears are banking on contributions from rookie Juaquin Iglesias and slot receiver Rashied Davis. Brandon Rideau and Johnny Knox are in the mix. Remember, Angelo acknowledged the Bears would have drafted a wide receiver in the first round had they not traded for Cutler. He wanted to upgrade the position.

''So far they have been making the right decisions on the guys they have been picking, so I am hopeful whatever they do works,'' Hester said. ''It's been a heck of an offseason so far. We're shooting for the Super Bowl.''


Basically a bunch of our players saying they'd love to have him on the team. Not sure what Biggs source is on the Bears being the mysterious 3rd team but....there it is.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Thu Jun 4, 2009 6:30 pm
by Cliff Levingston
Get him with an incentive based deal that protects us just in case he ends up in jail. If he's not here, it doesn't cost us anything (or not much) and we go into the season with the receivers we were planning on anyway.

That said, if those are indeed the 3 teams in on him, Cliff Levingston has got to believe we'd be the odds on favorites to win his services. The Jets have a rookie Sanchez and is the same town he got into trouble in while the Bucs have a collection of crap at the QB position. Further, both teams have new coaching staffs.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Thu Jun 4, 2009 6:44 pm
by Chewie
Cliff Levingston wrote:Get him with an incentive based deal that protects us just in case he ends up in jail. If he's not here, it doesn't cost us anything (or not much) and we go into the season with the receivers we were planning on anyway.

That said, if those are indeed the 3 teams in on him, Cliff Levingston has got to believe we'd be the odds on favorites to win his services. The Jets have a rookie Sanchez and is the same town he got into trouble in while the Bucs have a collection of crap at the QB position. Further, both teams have new coaching staffs.


Hard to say. It may be less about the staff/personnel than it does who will give him the best deal. In that scenario, we could easily be the least desirable. Then again, it's anything goes this offseason, eh?

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Thu Jun 4, 2009 7:40 pm
by Balance-a-Bull
If we offer the best opportunity for him succeed on the field..... and just as Cliff mentioned...he would probably be more inclined to leave the NY area media.

In all likelihood all of the teams pursuing him will offer an incentive based contract due to his circumstances.

With all of the love our players are giving him , along with a chance to make some serious noise with him on our roster......hopefully, Plax will make some concessions by considering a short-term deal with the Bears to increase his long-term prospects later.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Thu Jun 4, 2009 7:49 pm
by Balance-a-Bull
Our plea has made it to wiretap..

http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ ... t_burress/

Hopefully Plax is a fan of Realgm and is bearing down on the information with great interest.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Thu Jun 4, 2009 8:23 pm
by SportsWorld
As long as he isn't demanding too much money I'm down for adding Plax. I think we're Super Bowl contenders with the addition of him.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:04 pm
by Posey H8er
As long as we get a deal in place that doesn't screw us if Plaxico ends up in jail then go for it. Plaxico, Hester, Iglesias, Bennett, Olsen, and Forte would give Cutler A LOT of options.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:25 pm
by fleet
As long as we get a deal in place that doesn't screw us if Plaxico ends up in jail then go for it. Plaxico, Hester, Iglesias, Bennett, Olsen, and Forte would give Cutler A LOT of options.

Question is, how good is Cutler. In my view. Plenty. A good QB creates offense.
Let me tell you something, If Plax came here, a LOT of haters in the local and national media would be getting their words stuffed down their throat when they go all glass half empty "Who's he gonna throw to?". As if the Bears will forever have the same receivers. Give me a break. Great QBs MAKE receivers from raw clay. Great QBs draw receivers to teams like flies on a horse. They seep out of the woodwork. Plax or no Plax. I hate Debbie downers.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:36 pm
by SportsWorld
The Bears went 9-7 last season with this same WR group (we have more talent this year with the addition of Iglesias) and Kyle Orton as our QB. The Bears can easily win 11 games this year especially with an easier schedule than last year and all the roster changes Angelo made this offseason. I'm pretty sure people didn't know who Brandon Marshall was before he got to Denver. Now he's one of the best WR's in the game. That could have something to do with Cutler.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:36 pm
by fleet
5The atmosphere is back.

The novelty of Cutler's first public practice two weeks ago hadn't worn off. It was June 3, but the energy and excitement level of a typically mundane practice was palpable. One player compared it to spring football at a big-time college football program. The players feel the buzz and discuss the anticipation level of training camp. The anticipation level of training camp. Which is only 57 days away, if you're counting.


A real QB puts a spring in everybody's step. I bet it even somehow affect's the offseason workouts in a positive way. Word is Urlacher is in phenomenal shape already. I've gotta believe 25% or more of the defense's problems were related to poor field position and excessive use. Some other percentage was related to basic depression because they knew the offense was gonna go 3 and out and they would be right back out there, and the chances of winning were dull because of lousy offense. Hey these defensive guys are gonna be exited for once when they sit down on the sideline.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 5:11 pm
by Howling Mad
I would love to have him. Go Giants! :wink:

But I think we're one year away from being able to have the luxury of taking a gamble like Plexico. We have too much change right now and I think making an acquisition like this pretty much throws the whole gas tank in the fire.

I say one year for the team to gel, follow a new leader, let the old defensive farts be put in their places, let the coaches settle, then...then, it'd be time to make a gamble like this.

Reminds me of the Cowboy's T.O. Gamble. At the time they signed him, they didn't need to, so if anything went wrong, whatever, pass it to Terry Glenn, Witten and run it with Barber.

With our team, although he'd be the #1 like T.O. was, we'd be putting too much weight on his signing. If he doesn't pan out, goes to jail, suspension, or just wigs out diva style, we fall greatly in talent from Plexico, to a developing Hester.

The only way, is a incentive contract like other have mentioned.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Sat Jun 6, 2009 9:17 pm
by SLCceltic
I agree with pretty much every point made in this thread

but in the end we must acquire any proven guy that is available; what we have is shaky at best
Bennett/hester/davis/ iglesias isnt the end of the world, but Plax would make us a lot better---we have too many other weapons for defenses to focus on him........Olsen/Clark/Plax/Hester/Forte/Davis any of EB. Iglesias. knox emerging and our revamped o-line would be absolutely ridiculous w/ Cutler

sign him now to show him love; an incentive deal w/ an out clause and a nice signing bonus

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:18 pm
by Balance-a-Bull
Let's get on the phone JA and make it happen.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/

With case pushed off to September, questions remain for Burress
By
Brad Biggs
on June 15, 2009 3:47 PM

Drew Rosenhaus has dedicated six Twitter posts already today to Plaxico Burress. The PR machine is in overdrive. He's trying to hammer home the point that Burress will be available for the entire 2009 football season after he appeared briefly in New York court this morning and had his case adjourned until Sept. 23.

Burress' lawyer Benjamin Brafman said outside court that a trial for his client likely wouldn't take place until 2010 and that several teams were trying to sign Burress.

"We are also confident that the NFL will not have grounds to discipline Plex until after the adjudication of his case after this season,'' Rosenhaus wrote.

That's the other wild card in the matter. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell could choose to suspend Burress at any time for violation of the league's personal conduct policy. In the past, suspensions for first-time offenders like Burress have come after the court system has laid down its ruling. But the league reserves the right to do whatever it chooses, and that uncertainty might make teams think twice about Burress right now.

One league insider suggested Burress had the opportunity to wrap up the entire process already, and choosing to delay it has made him less attractive. The point was he's going to show up with baggage as it is. If there is a court case and potential jail time hanging over his head, he's going to show up with twice as much baggage. Here's one report that interest by the New York Jets in Burress has cooled.

Still, you cannot discount Burress' ability and the Bears' need for help. General manager Jerry Angelo said he would have drafted a wide receiver in the first round had he not traded for quarterback Jay Cutler. Then, he tried to deal his second-round pick to Arizona for Anquan Boldin. Angelo has identified the need and nothing that has taken place in OTA's for three weeks has changed that need.

Burress would give the Bears a wide receiver who can operate outside the numbers and provide a proven big-play threat for Cutler. The Bears drafted Juaquin Iglesias, Johnny Knox and Derek Kinder. At best, two of them will be complementary targets. Cutler has quickly developed a rapport with tight end Greg Olsen and he may become a go-top target. A productive tight end can't be substituted for a No. 1 wide receive
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Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:31 pm
by rose2tyrus
We should go after Plax. I mean if he is able to play its such a great addition. He is SUCH a talented reciever and exactly the kind of guy you want lined opposite of hester because his big body and possesion reciever kind of ways perfectly compliment Hester's blazing speed... God damn the Bears passing game if we could add a legit #1 WR

but who knows maybe Hester will become one, than wed just need to find a good #2... and i love Rashied Davis in the slot.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:28 am
by emperorjones
I don't understand why the media & teams are looking at this as a 2009 question. The Bears should sign Plax to a 4 year deal and not worry about 2009. If the guy's case is adjourned until Sept. 23, there is no way the trial will get going in 2009. It has to be grand juried first, then set for trial, then jury selection before trial even got started. That alone pushes it out to 2010. The number of delays that would naturally take place would push a trial well into 2010 IMO. Even if he was suspended for the entire 2009 season, the Beras should sign him NOW for 2010.

Sign him to a long term deal and the WR position is locked up with Plax & Hester with Bennet Iglacias, & Knox allowed time to develop & contribute.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:21 am
by fleet
I saw an ESPN graphic that showed Plax's yards per game has steadily dropped for 4 or 5 years. And dropped dramatically. The Narration over it said, beware of this guy. Definately incentive laden deal if any

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:06 am
by Balance-a-Bull
Basically, Burress has been a 1,000 yard receiver 3 out of the last five years including his shortened campaign last season.

http://www.nfl.com/players/plaxicoburre ... =BUR595691


2008 454

2007 1,025

2006 988

2005 1,214

2004 698


He still has number one receiver production and ability.... and we presently do not have one (WR) as Hester is still developing, so an incentive contract is probably expected considering his circumstances.

Culter and many other players on the Bears want him ......and I sure do as well.

We sure can use a player of his caliber to solidify the offense and make us that more potent.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:18 am
by Balance-a-Bull
The door is still open for possibly adding Plax to the mix.....hopefully it happens.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/06 ... .html#more

Lovie happy with roster as it, but doesn't rule out Plaxico Burress
By
Brad Biggs
on June 17, 2009 1:15 PM


Lovie Smith said the Bears have not ruled out pursuing free-agent wide receiver Plaxico Burress, but he believes the team can win with what it has right now.

The team ended its 10-week offseason program on Wednesday afternoon at Halas Hall. The session concluded with the two-minute drill for the second team. Caleb Hanie hit third-round pick Juaquin Iglesias for a deep touchdown pass. Perhaps Smith and management feel good enough about the inexperienced crew of wide receivers on the roster to go forward without making a play for Burress, who his handlers say will not face a trial on gun charges in New York until after the season.

"Plaxico Burress is a good football player,'' Smith said. "Of course, we all know that. We keep all of our options open. We're constantly evaluating all players that are out there. I feel good about our team that we have right now. I feel good about the receivers we have right now.

"The door is never closed on anyone that is available. We've said that every time any player that has been available has been out there. We're saying the same thing right now. It's not like we're aggressively going after him. We evaluate everyone that we think can make our team better. We think we're a strong football team without adding anyone. We would like to improve on every position but right now we feel like we can win with this group.''

Smith said the Bears have had no discussions about Brandon Marshall, who announced earlier this week that he would like to be traded out of Denver like former teammate Jay Cutler was.

Burress faces up to 3 1/2 years in prison for carrying an unlicensed handgun into a Manhattan night club last November. He accidentally shot a hole in his leg. The Bears are one of three teams known to have contacted agent Drew Rosenhaus about the player. The New York Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers are the others. Rosenhaus said earlier this week that a fourth team has reached out to him.

Besides the legal angle with Burress, teams have to consider what type of sanctions he could face from commissioner Roger Goodell. He is expected to be suspended for violation of the personal conduct policy. Rosenhaus is adamant that will not happen until after the court case is completed, but the NFL office has made it clear Goodell can act at any time.

"We try to weigh all of it,'' Smith said. "That's a big part of the evaluation process. Everybody has a history and you go with their history."

Smith said he has not spoken to Burress. Bears players have made it clear they would be in favor of adding him to the mix. As the roster is constituted right now, only Devin Hester and Rashied Davis have tangible NFL experience. The team is counting on significant contributions from Earl Bennett and rookies Iglesias and Johnny Knox. Brandon Rideau could also figure into the equation. It puts an awful lot of pressure on Cutler, who said he has not spoken with the disgruntled Marshall lately.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:33 am
by SportsWorld
fleetwood macbull wrote:I saw an ESPN graphic that showed Plax's yards per game has steadily dropped for 4 or 5 years. And dropped dramatically. The Narration over it said, beware of this guy. Definately incentive laden deal if any

He's still 5 times better than any WR we currently have. Plus, I think he'll come into this season with a ton of motivation. It's a risk I'm willing to take.

Re: Bears One of Three Teams in On Plax ?

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:02 pm
by TNBT
I don't know a huge amount about American football, or players other than the Bears, but I do know that we could use a true #1 WR to give the WR core a boost. As I said, I don't know a lot about Plax, but I get the impression from this thread that he still has big time talent, which is exactly what we need. However, I just read this today, and I thought this would probably be the place to post it: http://www.nypost.com/seven/06172009/sp ... 174681.htm

Tim Hasselbeck, a former backup quarterback for the Giants, said on ESPN's "NFL Live" yesterday that teams -- including the Jets -- would be wise to refrain from signing his former teammate Plaxico Burress.

"When you're looking at Plaxico Burress, there's no doubt that he can be a dominant receiver at times on Sundays," Hasselbeck said. "We've seen it. But with that being said, I played with the guy. I was in the locker room with him for two years. He's a disaster as a teammate. He's a disaster as a guy that you have to coach.

"And what do I mean by that? If you want to wait for a guy to show up to meetings, if you want to have to beg a guy to run full-speed in practice, if you want a guy that would disappear in games because he doesn't get the ball early -- then look, Plaxico Burress is your guy.

"But if you don't want those distractions, and you don't want to deal with the other headaches that come along with Plaxico Burress, then you better stay away from him."


Now I don't know much about this guy, but reading something like that worries me a little. We got rid of Cedric Benson finally and I don't know if I really want to add another screwball to the locker room and potentially mess up team chemistry. What do you guys think about this article, about him as a player and about how he would impact our team chemistry?