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Bears trade an undisclosed 2010 pick for DE Gaines Adams. #4 overall pick in 2007. Had 12.5 sacks his first two years and so far has 1 this year.

Interesting to say the least. Wonder what the pick will end up being.

His contract was a 6 year deal worth $46million. I'll see if I can track down the exact breakdown.

Edit-
Roto saying the pick is believed to be a second rounder.

Awesome trade.

This is Marinelli's chance to really earn his paycheck. If he can make Adams into a first round talent this is a good trade.

The guy is a phisical speciman. Rod has his hands full with his attitude, but trading a 2nd round pick ( when you dont even know whats avalible ) for a 6"5 Julius Peppers build player with the speed and strength to be as good as any DE in the league, with arguably one of the best D - line coaches in the league coaching him, I just see no harm that can come from this trade.

This may be the end of Adawale Ogunleye in chicago, I think we should explore our options with him though, Its pretty obvious that Adams is not ready to be a starter, so You still need Wale, but at the same time we are at risk of loosing a very talented DE for nothing, You need to see if you can make a deal and get a WR ( not just any WR, #1 tallent type WR ) a better CB ( Tillman and Bowman are fine, but if we can get a legit top flight CB, it would surely strengthen our 2ndary ) or a FS ( SRY guys, Maybe its just me, but Manning is not going to cut it, If we can get a realy good FS, our 2nd improves dramaticly, because the FS can not only help you at that possision, but a good one helps out your CB by being that 2nd guy being able to jump in and make a play on the ball )

Just got to look at our option,

Brown, Wale, Anderson, and Adam is one hell of a linup, Hopefully, we can find a nice NT too, but a D Line with this type of tallent, is scary, Harris is hopefully back on his way up as well. so we will have to see what our future holds

So we don't pick until the 3rd round this upcoming draft? Like the move though.

My 2010 draft weekend has officially been destroyed. You best be worth it, Adams.

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My 2010 draft weekend has officially been destroyed. You best be worth it, Adams.

Cant be any worse than this year, I sat in front of the TV, waiting for the bears 2nd round pick, hoping that somebody would fall, it comes to be our pick, we freeking trade it. WTF. sat there for at least 3 hours waiting for nothing.

Must admit though, Gilbert, Iglesias, some players def worth waiting for.

A D line of Gaines, Brown. Harris ( if he gets back to form ) IS hard to stop. not to mention our LBs either. could be a very good future for us.

Hope he turns out well.

I'd rather have results than a physical specimen. Maybe we can have both if Marinelli proves his worth. Bears have a few guys on the line like that.

Mark Anderson is just an athletic beast with a fast motor. Jarron Gilbert can jump out of pools 3 foot and squat and dead lift around 650 pounds. Now Adams, who has a build like Peppers.

Who knows. A change of scenery and decent coaching can do guy wonders. Adams was supposed to be a guy that Marinelli coveted, just never had a chance at. Some guys need that chip on their shoulder, to finally "get it". Hope it pans out, because a 2nd round pick usually has fairly high value

Kyben36 wrote:

My 2010 draft weekend has officially been destroyed. You best be worth it, Adams.

Cant be any worse than this year, I sat in front of the TV, waiting for the bears 2nd round pick, hoping that somebody would fall, it comes to be our pick, we freeking trade it. WTF. sat there for at least 3 hours waiting for nothing.

Must admit though, Gilbert, Iglesias, some players def worth waiting for.

A D line of Gaines, Brown. Harris ( if he gets back to form ) IS hard to stop. not to mention our LBs either. could be a very good future for us.

I can't tell if you're kidding there or not as both players have barely sniffed the field this year.

I'm still not sure DE was such a huge immediate need. Even if Ogunleye is on his way out after this year, right now he's playing good ball. I don't see Gaines Adams displacing Alex Brown and Mark Anderson's doing better under Marinelli. Then you can throw in Melton into the mix who's going through the Lovie red-shirt year.

figuring this must have been a pre-emptive move with ogunleye and mark anderson up after the season. i personally would not re-sign oguneleye. he was absolutely miserable for two straight years. i was shocked he was penciled in as a starter this year. he's playing well now but i think this is his last good year. i would not give him big money. but hopefully he continues producing and gives us 10-12 sacks. but i find it hard to believe wale has a few more high-producing years left in his tank.

mark anderson is a bust. he had one massive year in '06 and has been horrific ever since. i'm suprised he made the active roster. so far he's had one good play through 4 games. i'd let him walk, too.

alex brown is super-steady. definitely our best, most consistent DL. he makes big plays, no doubt. i was shocked when he fell to the 4th round but he was one of JA's best picks. pencil him in as a starter in 2010.

so that brings me to Gaines. two fairly productive full years and a slow start here. let him work with marinelli and see if we can pencil him in as the DE for 2010. we'll see how it plays out.

This move is all about the future and money.

Wale is out and Adams has a contract that goes for 3 more years and its real cheap around 1M per year.

This means the Bears won't have draft picks but they will have $$$ to buy FA's.

I see Adams getting 10 sacks per under Marinelli and replacing Wale no problem. He's also young and will open up the room to spend in FA.

I think the Bears will resign Anderson too because he won't command much money on the open market.

I think this move also shows the Bears think they can win now. Anytime you trade draft picks it says WIN NOW.

IIRC Mark Anderson is also a Free Agent next year. With Wale and Anderson likely not in Bears uniforms next year, Bears would have no speed rusher, so this deal kind of makes sense

We waived Michael Gaines to make way for Gaines Adams.

I'm not sure what to think of this trade. I thought there was no way we would part with another draft pick this season, especially our first one of the draft. Had we had a first rounder I would have said this is an absolute steal.The Tampa 2 D we play is predicated on rushing the passer so the ends are very important in our scheme and with Wale/Anderson in doubt next year I can see jumping on an guy like Adams who was a top 5 pick just 2 seasons ago and has the ability to be an elite pass rusher. The bad thing is I've read he doesn't have the best attitude, needs to bulk up quite a bit, and has been disappointing thus far. I hope this doesn't hurt the chemistry negatively this year more than it helps us because Wale has been a stud thus far.

Maybe we'll actually spend some money in free agency this upcoming off season, at least I hope so. I haven't looked at who'll be available in free agency but as Washington has proved, signing expensive FA's isn't always as successful as drafting your own players.

Chewie wrote:

Kyben36 wrote:

My 2010 draft weekend has officially been destroyed. You best be worth it, Adams.

Cant be any worse than this year, I sat in front of the TV, waiting for the bears 2nd round pick, hoping that somebody would fall, it comes to be our pick, we freeking trade it. WTF. sat there for at least 3 hours waiting for nothing.

Must admit though, Gilbert, Iglesias, some players def worth waiting for.

A D line of Gaines, Brown. Harris ( if he gets back to form ) IS hard to stop. not to mention our LBs either. could be a very good future for us.

I can't tell if you're kidding there or not as both players have barely sniffed the field this year.

I'm still not sure DE was such a huge immediate need. Even if Ogunleye is on his way out after this year, right now he's playing good ball. I don't see Gaines Adams displacing Alex Brown and Mark Anderson's doing better under Marinelli. Then you can throw in Melton into the mix who's going through the Lovie red-shirt year.

I am 100% serious. we got 2 2nd round caliber players in the 3rd, I think that Gilbert has tons of potential and Iglesias could end up being as good as plenty of other players in the league, think Musin Muhamid caliber. Not to mention Knox, and as you said Melton who has tons of potential. and Afalava who has been more than a plesent surprise.

CjayC wrote:IIRC Mark Anderson is also a Free Agent next year. With Wale and Anderson likely not in Bears uniforms next year, Bears would have no speed rusher, so this deal kind of makes sense

I see it this way, Its obvious that Gaines is not ready, Ogunleye will still start, and maybe come week 12, GAines will have changed and will be ready, but he doesnt seem like he is right now.

I see Ogunleye being let go, becuase Gaines should be more than ready to be an every down DE by the time the year is over and next season comes and Ogunleye will be demanding too much $ anyway. Brown is already signed through 2011, Meaning that he will be 32 by the time his contract ends, and thats getting up in age. I see us keeping Anderson, still alowing him to develop as the 3rd DE spelling Brown and GAines, and slowing brining him in as the full time starter.

come 2011, we will have 2 28 year old pass rushing DEs that will hopefully be able to develop into very good players.

I also see us getting a nice deal for Anderson as well. so the $ should not be too much of a issue.

I really don't dive much into football trade values but if we traded Mark or Wale what exactly do you think we could get out of them? Pick or vet wise.

RingtheBell wrote:I really don't dive much into football trade values but if we traded Mark or Wale what exactly do you think we could get out of them? Pick or vet wise.

Nothing much, Maybe we can trade Wale and Vasher for something solid but its not a good chance. Facts remain, this was a $ move, if we can get Adams to be what he can be even close to then we will save alot of $ by not resigning Wale. , Wale will save us around 4 mil, so hopefully, we can pick a a FS, WR, lockdown CB, Offensive linemen or Even a NT (not a real fan of Adams )

a few players I would love to see us look at

Free safties

O.J. Atogwe Rams
Nick Collins Green Bay
Antoine Bethea Colts

WRs

Marshall Broncos
Vincent Jackson Chargers
Braylon Edwards ( probably will be resigned ) Jets
Antonio Bryant tampa bay
Kevin Walter Texans

NT

Vince Wilfork Pats
Ryan Pickett GB


Just saying, that this allows us to explore options in terms of other possisions, not just DE

From Twitter via the Packers board:

Through first 24 games: Mario Williams: 8.5 sacks. Gaines Adams: 11.0 sacks.

I don't have an issue with this trade from value standpoint. If this trade works out it could help eliminate 2 potential issues with d line and secondery. My only question is how can the bears now improve the offensive line?