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Good:
Cedric Benson
Carson Palmer
Chad Ochocinco
Bengals offensive line
Bengals defense
Bengals coaching staff
Robbie Gould

Bad:
Matt Forte
Jay Cutler
Bears offensive line
Bears defense
Bears coaching staff
Robbie Gould (for playing on the Bears)

What did Robie gould do, kick one FG and an extra point, this team sucks and im starting to notive it. Jay cutler cant do it all. Matt forte was a 1 year wonder, The line just blows, where is the D, it took Lovie 3 TDs to realize that we need 8 in the box to stop Benson, and we still could not do anything, I just dont know anymore. Im considering being a Raiders fan right now.

HOwever, on a positive note, I just saw Drew Brees dunk to ball on the goal post, I just smiled a little to see a white little guy dunk.

The guys on the Score are PISSED.

I want to call in so bad. Much to talk about, and it all begins at Jerry Angelo and the Bears coaching staff.

Robbie didn't screw anything up. Think he was the only one.

If they don't make any kind of personnel or coaching changes after the last two dookies they've put up, I have to seriously consider not watching football.

The most alarming thing is that this team is sucking top to bottom. You can probably blame the defense more, yeah and make an excuse that the offense was constantly in catch up mode, but there was bad play all around. Non existent defense, no O Line push or protection, 6 rushes for Forte?, Bad throws by Cutler, more critical red zone mistakes, bad coaching all around.

How does Lovie Smith realistically survive this season? Angelo should be on his way out as well. Unless, of course, they have a miracle comeback season and run the table.

SportsWorld wrote:Robbie didn't screw anything up. Think he was the only one.

Lol - our one positive of the game.

The Chicago Bulls season starting on Thursday is the only thing stopping me from spanking my hamster.

I'm so pissed.

I have an idea.....let's get a good QB then get POS line to protect him and come up with dink and dunk game plans. YEAH !!!!!!

Absolutely dominated from start to finish. Kudos to the Bengals for keeping Cedric in there to rub it in our faces.

Bengals claim only reason Benson was in in the 4th was because other backs were hurt . I dont think Lewis would run it up against his friend Lovie like that .

I would fire Lovie and Angelo at the end of the season.

Jay needs to be coached his mechanics drive me crazy .

The Cover two is done and since thats all that JA and Lovie know they must go.

Olsen seems pretty soft and nowhere near the player he was last year

There is nothing wrong with Forte except that we need to stop coddling him and get him the ball more

The line sucked last year and we found a way to work around it for the most part .....they need to figure it out.

at one point, the forum on ChicagoBears.com organized a Fire Lovie Rally tomorrow at 9AM CST at the Field Museum. the amount of anger on that message board towards Lovie and the coaching staff is incredible. they are calling for his head....

when the fan base gets THIS angry, something has to happen.

SpinninHouse wrote:at one point, the forum on ChicagoBears.com organized a Fire Lovie Rally tomorrow at 9AM CST at the Field Museum.

Yeah I'm sure that won't amount to anything. Probably 10 or so people.

But seriously, Lovie really needs to go. Bring in an experienced coach like Mike Shannahan in the offseason who has previously worked with Cutler and we should be a better football team.

SportsWorld wrote:

SpinninHouse wrote:at one point, the forum on ChicagoBears.com organized a Fire Lovie Rally tomorrow at 9AM CST at the Field Museum.

Yeah I'm sure that won't amount to anything. Probably 10 or so people.

But seriously, Lovie really needs to go. Bring in an experienced coach like Mike Shannahan in the offseason who has previously worked with Cutler and we should be a better football team.

Lovie cant go without Angelo as all he knows how to do is build a team the Tampa bay way . He only knows how to draft for that scheme and thats why he was so into bringing in Lovie who only runs his system.

I would probably bring in someone like Ted Sundquist the former broncos gm and have him share responsibilities with Shanahan.My only request would be that he make defense a priority in his hiring of a DC.

I really dont blame Lovie for this debacle as much as Angelo simply because Angelo has been blowing draft picks quite often and for all the talk about you can never have too many D-linemen it never seems to actually work out in our favor and he totally ignored the offensive side for years .

I made it on the Score.

My job for the night is done. Peace...

I blame Lovie for this loss because he was the one calling the defensive plays. The defense was bad last year but Lovie was stubborn enough not to change from the Cover 2 to a better defense and the defense looks worse so far this season. I feel bad for blaming Bavich last season. It obviously wasn't his fault.

Looks like the Nick Roach/Hunter experiment isn't going to work out.

Bengals had more rush attempts (45) than Bears had rushing yards (35).

This defense requires an elite front 4. We don't have one elite player on that line. I think O-Gun and Alex Brown are good, but not elite. Harris is done, and whoever else they plug in is a backup. The Lovie Smith era is over unless this team flips a switch and majorly overachieves the rest of the way. A win over the lowly Browns says nothing. A loss to the Browns says back up the trucks to Halas Hall and just move this organization away. At this point I'd welcome the return of the Cardinals.

The Cover 2, has overstayed its welcome in the NFL. I think there are only like 2 or 3 other teams that run a pure Cover 2 like the Bears do. The guy on the Score brought up a good point. They actually had the guy, that invented it on a show, and he said that the only plausible way to run it nowadays would be to make fundamental changes in how its run.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather change defenses than keep playing to this Cover 2 fad(Which really isn't popular anymore. Now its all about the 3-4).

And since Angelo only knows personnel for the Cover 2, and I doubt Lovie would know how to implement another defense, it makes no sense to keep either one of them on the team.

You cannot pin all the defensive failures on the scheme. Look at the Henry TD--that was dime man short-yardage package, and Bowman simply got lost. The personnel is just as much an issue, though I do agree that the Tampa-2 scheme has been figured out and cannot be used as a base defense anymore. It's to easy to scheme an offense to beat it, but great individual play can counter some of that. The Bears don't have anyone that can make those plays. Briggs can at times, Tillman has his monents, Wali and Brown are good enough, but Cover-2 is designed for a team with a dominant DT, a dominant MLB, and a dominant safety. The Bears are below-average at all those spots sans Urlacher. That Lovie doesn't, or refuses to, realize that does not speak well of his coaching acumen.

One other issue I keep seeing with Chicago: the offensive plays are still not getting in quick enough. They are breaking the huddle late, which doesn't give Cutler as much time to decipher the defense or read the coverages and identify the route adjustments with the receivers. It's a minor thing because he rarely audibles out of a call, but it isn't helping his INT problems.

Team is average, when it plays this bad, it needs to change what it is doing.

But this team is SOOO poorly built it is crazy. How many guys would you keep if you were starting a new team tomorrow, a dozen? Tops? Give Detroit or Chicago's roster, I take theirs. This team's future is B A D, has no way to improve without FA and they have an inept coach (Lovie) who has gotten by with elite play out of elite playmakers. Like someone said, the Cover 2, is a great system in theory. Except, the reason it worked for Tampa was they had three Hall of Famers, one at each level (Sapp, Brooks, Lynch) and excellent coaches running the system. The Cover 2 didn't work because of the system, the players made it work.

If five (four who still coach) coaches who won super bowls this past 15 years are jobless, then I think the Bears could part with Lovie. Get an offensive mind in here to coach it and get a defensive guy who knows what the hell he is doing. Because Lovie relied on great players to win games, now without them, he can't.