1st Half Grades: Rate the Team and the Coach...

[moofs]

Plus he's got the better 'do, that's worth atleast a handfull of bonus points in itself.

Think how cool it would be if he played every game with a Hannibal cigar, Panama Jack sunglasses, and a white-knit cuban lounge suit.

[RaoulDuke79]

Think how cool it would be if he played every game with a Hannibal cigar, Panama Jack sunglasses, and a white-knit cuban lounge suit.

That is a journey into Imagination Land that I dare not take!

[grond]

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Think how cool it would be if he played every game with a Hannibal cigar, Panama Jack sunglasses, and a white-knit cuban lounge suit.

first you get the money ...

[grond]

Now, on a more serious note ...

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Juwan did the same thing when Yao went out. Flopping is not defense; you'd think by watching people flop against Yao on a nightly basis you'd notice that Scola does the same thing. Scola is not a good defender, he's a bit better than Juwan because he gives some effort and is not a foul machine lately, but not a huge improvement and nowhere near Chuck.

I'm going to go single-point post on you for this one (since I notice you often ignore posts that contain multiple points and just repeat the same thing ad nauseum).

Scola's pick and roll defense is better than Howard's or Chuck's. He crowds the smaller player, sometimes driving him backwards, sometimes drawing a charge, and always giving the other defender lots of time to pick his man back up. Plus, he always recovers in time to pick his own man back up down low.

Ta da! There it is. You may want to argue their comparative man2man defensive prowess next, but you'd better have the #'s to back you up or I won't believe a word of it.

[compucomp]

Now, on a more serious note ...

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I'm going to go single-point post on you for this one (since I notice you often ignore posts that contain multiple points and just repeat the same thing ad nauseum).

Scola's pick and roll defense is better than Howard's or Chuck's. He crowds the smaller player, sometimes driving him backwards, sometimes drawing a charge, and always giving the other defender lots of time to pick his man back up. Plus, he always recovers in time to pick his own man back up down low.

Ta da! There it is. You may want to argue their comparative man2man defensive prowess next, but you'd better have the #'s to back you up or I won't believe a word of it.

Yes, he flops he picks up his share of blocking fouls. If we hate it when Oberto/Ginobili do it we should think it's dumb when Scola does the same thing and not commend him for flopping; that's just being a hypocrite. Chuck traps the pick and roll better than Scola can and Chuck doesn't flop nearly as much. Chuck and Battier are similar in their flopping, they flop sometimes but take legit charges. Scola is like Varejao, Ginobili, Oberto, Vlade Divac; they flop like a fish out of water.

I didn't say Scola is worse than Juwan on defense, Juwan gave little effort on that end but Scola makes up for picking up a few offensive fouls by picking up blocking fouls when he flops. Their man to man defense is similarly bad and neither of them is as good as Chuck. Scola is not a good defender, but he's improved enough to be able to stay in the game, I commend him for that, at the beginning of the year he literally could not stay on the court.

[RaoulDuke79]

Yes, he flops he picks up his share of blocking fouls. If we hate it when Oberto/Ginobili do it we should think it's dumb when Scola does the same thing and not commend him for flopping; that's just being a hypocrite.

I hate the fact the refs reward players who flop, therefore forcing players(if they're smart) to flop more. You'd have to be a complete fool NOT to try to flop knowing that the refs will usually give you the call. Of course, some players do it way too often.

I hate it, but it's not the players doing it I have a problem with. Stop rewarding them with the call and they won't do it anymore(atleast one would think/hope so).

That's just one of the many problems I have with the way the game is officiated.

[compucomp]

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I hate the fact the refs reward players who flop, therefore forcing players(if they're smart) to flop more. You'd have to be a complete fool NOT to try to flop knowing that the refs will usually give you the call. Of course, some players do it way too often.

I hate it, but it's not the players doing it I have a problem with. Stop rewarding them with the call and they won't do it anymore(atleast one would think/hope so).

That's just one of the many problems I have with the way the game is officiated.

My solution would be to call all flops blocking fouls. Since if you flop you are also surrendering an open lane to the basket for the you're guarding, that essentially means flopping would give up a three point play rather than just giving up the two. Even if the refs are uneven it would stop people from flopping if they knew they might be penalized rather than just ignored for flopping.

[RaoulDuke79]

You could do that, but then again what about on offense? How about the patented Manu play of "jumping into Yao(while he's got his position and standing straight up)and falling down" and getting the foul call?

[tisbee]

Since we're prob stuck w/flopping for the forseeable future,I suggest hanging the penalty for offensive fouls. Create two categories,Offensive Foul 1 which simply results in change of possesion and Offensive Foul 2 which also counts as a personal foul. Most flopping-derived calls would be 1s,using an elbow to clear out,or just running a player over would be a 2.

[Ksnyder18]

Those are pretty accurate assesments of the team

[jove9]

Off topic... out of all the players you could have picked, why Kirk Snyder?

Just curious.

No disrespect to Snyder, as I think he's an extremely underrated player who would be in the rotation were it not for our depth at that position.