Why do opposing forwards never slip on Scola??

[tha_rock220]

It seems like it would be really effective given how agressivley he tries to cover the guy coming off the screen.

[T-Mac for MVP]

You mean like when Chandler gets 10 alley oops against us?

[grond]

It seems like it would be really effective given how agressivley he tries to cover the guy coming off the screen.

on the high pick and roll the ball carrier is always dribbling with the hand furthest from the hoop as he uses the screen. the way scola traps hard on one side, in order to make an entry pass towards the hoop, the carrier either has to pick up his dribble and pass with 2 hands or try to cross over and use the hand he wasn't dribbling with (since a dribbling hand pass would be stolen or blocked off before he got the pass off). but any motion back towards the original screen leaves the carrier vulnerable to being trapped or having the ball stolen by the original defender.

having said that, there's usually there's a split moment of vulnerability when scola has to hustle back to pick up his man, but he usually gets there quickly, the original defender on the ball is locked in, and there's cover defense from battier/deke/etc pressuring a direct inside pass. Paul and West managed to exploit it a couple of times in one of those early games when Yao was still in the lineup, but haven't any other duo take advantage of it.

phew.

Also, Scola rules.


EDIT: I guess I could have just said "They do sometimes, but between Scola and the screened defender it's difficult to feed the ball quickly to Scola's man."

[moofs]

=) man i wish i knew anything about play diagramming.

[tha_rock220]

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on the high pick and roll the ball carrier is always dribbling with the hand furthest from the hoop as he uses the screen. the way scola traps hard on one side, in order to make an entry pass towards the hoop, the carrier either has to pick up his dribble and pass with 2 hands or try to cross over and use the hand he wasn't dribbling with (since a dribbling hand pass would be stolen or blocked off before he got the pass off). but any motion back towards the original screen leaves the carrier vulnerable to being trapped or having the ball stolen by the original defender.

having said that, there's usually there's a split moment of vulnerability when scola has to hustle back to pick up his man, but he usually gets there quickly, the original defender on the ball is locked in, and there's cover defense from battier/deke/etc pressuring a direct inside pass. Paul and West managed to exploit it a couple of times in one of those early games when Yao was still in the lineup, but haven't any other duo take advantage of it.

phew.

Also, Scola rules.


EDIT: I guess I could have just said "They do sometimes, but between Scola and the screened defender it's difficult to feed the ball quickly to Scola's man."

Are you assuming the screen is set here???

[grond]

Are you assuming the screen is set here???

Yeah. As described in your original post.

[tha_rock220]

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Yeah. As described in your original post.

I meant the opponent slips the screen because Scola will likely overcommit. It seems like a very effective play because Scola generally doesn't even wait for the screen to be set before preparing to trap.

[grond]

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I meant the opponent slips the screen because Scola will likely overcommit. It seems like a very effective play because Scola generally doesn't even wait for the screen to be set before preparing to trap.

Oh i see. But i dunno that he's quite _that_ aggressive on the trap tho'. Might have to watch a little closer next time.

did notice in tonight's game he got burned by Pierce cross-over'ing and splitting between him and the other defender. So that option is also given up by him, before the other defender can go below the screen, since he plays the dribble hand so aggressively.

sigh. stupid #@$%@#$% KG.

[CuttingEdge]

Scola doesn't have enough to have a post up game. He's not Yao or Hakeem upfront.