Racist Spanish Basketball Ad

[TMU]

That is quite hilarious.

[aznkillabeezZz]

The Spanish vs China game was pretty good. The crowd kept on booing Spain. But Yi and Wang lack the toughness Yao has. They were beat by offensive rebounds in the 4th Q. Wang and Yi couldn't even defend Pau,. Yi is extremely weak. He should get stronger and tougher.. He always looked scared on court. Wang at least was good in the offensive end. When the other team is shooting ft's, your bigs are expected to grab the rebounds. But China gave up at least 3 big possessions from losing rebounds from FT's. Largely due to Yi and Wang's lack of toughness .

It was a good game though, especially when one of the spanish players slipped in full speed and knocked his head on hard wood. He got what he deserved

As long as bull fighting isn't on the olympics, PRC will always have more medals than Spain.

[J2DaReala]

Dumb move by spain and comes out while your still in the host country??? Are you freaking kidding me! Stupid racist.

[yussuf025]

Why is the spanish team so random and racist WOW. When I saw this i was ROTFLMFAO out loud

[jimmy_n13]

I don't think it's really racist. It's very ignorant but not racist.

The monkey chants are unbelievably racist. Why? Because it's them expressing a view that due to their race black people are closer to monkeys then they are to humans (that they are below caucasian people)- it's malicious.

This thing is making fun of the facial characteristics of Asians- not really malicious and not necessarily suggesting that because of that Asians are below caucasians.

[jove9]

It's demeaning, which implies that asians are below caucasians.

[Duiz]

lol

this is nonsense

I wouldnt call it racist

Would it be racist if Novak appeared in an ad for his hometown in blackface?

The Spanish Team is purposely demeaning an entire group of people; of course it's racist.

Beat me too it...

It doesn't matter where they did it at, its still counted as racist.

If Utah were to make an ad IN Utah using the N Word it would STILL BE RACIST. even though Utah has the least amount of black people.

But if Utah spoke all spanish... then using the "N" word wouldn't be so bad.

We had this big discussion in the general board, and we had to explain to the majority of anglo-saxon fans that cultural differences that are created thanks to the language. In english... chinese means nationality and race. In Spanish, it means that too, but also it means an adjective of having an epicanthic fold. Thus... "Chino" and "Chinese" are different on the 3rd sense. It has nothing to do with race or nationality. Koreans have "Ojos chinos." In spanish, remarking that with using the word chinese doesn't constitute as an offensive term to a japanese or a kazakh. As a matter of fact, there are even romantic songs in latin america towards fellow hispanic young women which romaticize their beautiful "Ojos chinos." Different race, but again we are not talking about race, we are talking about "slanted eyes." Spanish players felt silly about this, and there were many that didn't wanted to do it cause they thought it was just stupid. Sponsors forced them to do it. It was considered as a fellowship demonstration.

In Latin America, there are countries and school that perform school "Kermes" that have young kids dancing afro-cuban or indigenous dances, and they perform while being darkened by rubbing charcoal into their faces and body. One might find this offensive here in the US, but it is widely considered as a cultural understanding experience for the sake of fellowshipping. Also... as I was mentioning, "Negro" is actually the word used to say "black person" in spanish. While in english saying Black, "Negro" or "****" is offensive, in Spanish it is the rule by dictionary and no one takes offense to it because there is none. Again, here in the US we have a story with the word "Negro" but by origin, it is a very clean word. In french, like spanish, one says "Noir" which means "Negro" which means to anglo-saxons "Black person."

I find that the people who have problems with it is usually because of ignorance which they can't be blamed for not knowing another language. Could it be rendered as offensive in other countries? Absolutely, look at UK and USA. But it was meant to be for the Spanish speaking world, not to be marketed in rural Arkansas.

PS - aznkillabeezZz you owe me your apologies. As I said, Yao Ming would be forced to play using the pretext for national pride in order to play the olympics, even though he is not fully recovered. Yao Ming himself vindicated me, geez, thanks Yao. I will be looking forward for your apology, just call me to my number 713-533-4509.

[jove9]

But if Utah spoke all spanish... then using the "N" word wouldn't be so bad.

We had this big discussion in the general board, and we had to explain to the majority of anglo-saxon fans that cultural differences that are created thanks to the language. In english... chinese means nationality and race. In Spanish, it means that too, but also it means an adjective of having an epicanthic fold. Thus... "Chino" and "Chinese" are different on the 3rd sense. It has nothing to do with race or nationality. Koreans have "Ojos chinos." In spanish, remarking that with using the word chinese doesn't constitute as an offensive term to a japanese or a kazakh. As a matter of fact, there are even romantic songs in latin america towards fellow hispanic young women which romaticize their beautiful "Ojos chinos." Different race, but again we are not talking about race, we are talking about "slanted eyes." Spanish players felt silly about this, and there were many that didn't wanted to do it cause they thought it was just stupid. Sponsors forced them to do it. It was considered as a fellowship demonstration.

In Latin America, there are countries and school that perform school "Kermes" that have young kids dancing afro-cuban or indigenous dances, and they perform while being darkened by rubbing charcoal into their faces and body. One might find this offensive here in the US, but it is widely considered as a cultural understanding experience for the sake of fellowshipping. Also... as I was mentioning, "Negro" is actually the word used to say "black person" in spanish. While in english saying Black, "Negro" or "****" is offensive, in Spanish it is the rule by dictionary and no one takes offense to it because there is none. Again, here in the US we have a story with the word "Negro" but by origin, it is a very clean word. In french, like spanish, one says "Noir" which means "Negro" which means to anglo-saxons "Black person."

I find that the people who have problems with it is usually because of ignorance which they can't be blamed for not knowing another language. Could it be rendered as offensive in other countries? Absolutely, look at UK and USA. But it was meant to be for the Spanish speaking world, not to be marketed in rural Arkansas.

PS - aznkillabeezZz you owe me your apologies. As I said, Yao Ming would be forced to play using the pretext for national pride in order to play the olympics, even though he is not fully recovered. Yao Ming himself vindicated me, geez, thanks Yao. I will be looking forward for your apology, just call me to my number 713-533-4509.

I spent 8 years living in Mexico City, so I'm familiar with Latin culture. In your explanation, there's a key variable you have failed to take into account: the distinction between Latin American and European Spanish language and culture. You're implying that the language and culture is similar, which it isn't. This is why you're using Latin American examples to justify the actions of the Spanish national team.

It's also worth noting that variations in culture and language exist from country to country, and region to region, in Latin America. Any attempt to paint all of Spanish culture as homogenous is ill-conceived and dishonest. In this sense, your justifications of the racist actions of the Spanish National team using examples of afro-cuban dancers painting themselves black are missing the point completely.

Sure, we could take the post-modernist perspective and claim that we can never know what the Spanish National team was thinking, or that reality is based on our own perspectives and therefore there is truly no right and wrong, but I am not a post-modernist. And neither is Chomsky, by the way (those of you getting lost here, Noam Chomsky is the guy's avatar. He's a famous linguist, historian, and social commentator).

In my estimation there IS right and wrong, and it's wrong to belittle others or conceptualize them in any form that denies them their humanity by treating them as objects to be ridiculed. Don't try to tell me that the Spanish National Team was romanticizing the beautiful "ojos chinos" in that picture. You already said that some of the players felt uncomfortable doing it, but they had to do it anyway. This proves my point. The players were uncomfortable because they KNEW it was offensive.

So let's forget about this non-sense about cultural differences and what-not. It makes no difference what language you speak or where you're from; the ad was racist.

[RayStats34]

I think there is gonna be repercussions.

[grond]

PS - aznkillabeezZz you owe me your apologies. As I said, Yao Ming would be forced to play using the pretext for national pride in order to play the olympics, even though he is not fully recovered. Yao Ming himself vindicated me, geez, thanks Yao. I will be looking forward for your apology, just call me to my number 713-533-4509.

PPS - demanding an apology on an internet board and leaving your number to facilitate it (?!?!?!) is beyond lame.

PPPS - Are you a Jazz fan?

[aznkillabeezZz]

Yeah I think any Olympic athlete would grab the opportunity to play in the olympics even if they're 70% if they feel that they can help the team. Kobe chose to postpone his surgery going against Lakers wishes , from the finger that he's been bothered by the whole of last season. Dwyane wade just got back from surgery too. So i guess in your logic, these American players were forced to play in context of national pride too . Asking for an apology on the internet beyond lame, especially when your claim is flawed.. And i agree with jove9 the ad was racist despite any justifications you were trying to make..

[Whateva]

But if Utah spoke all spanish... then using the "N" word wouldn't be so bad.

We had this big discussion in the general board, and we had to explain to the majority of anglo-saxon fans that cultural differences that are created thanks to the language. In english... chinese means nationality and race. In Spanish, it means that too, but also it means an adjective of having an epicanthic fold. Thus... "Chino" and "Chinese" are different on the 3rd sense. It has nothing to do with race or nationality. Koreans have "Ojos chinos." In spanish, remarking that with using the word chinese doesn't constitute as an offensive term to a japanese or a kazakh. As a matter of fact, there are even romantic songs in latin america towards fellow hispanic young women which romaticize their beautiful "Ojos chinos." Different race, but again we are not talking about race, we are talking about "slanted eyes." Spanish players felt silly about this, and there were many that didn't wanted to do it cause they thought it was just stupid. Sponsors forced them to do it. It was considered as a fellowship demonstration.

In Latin America, there are countries and school that perform school "Kermes" that have young kids dancing afro-cuban or indigenous dances, and they perform while being darkened by rubbing charcoal into their faces and body. One might find this offensive here in the US, but it is widely considered as a cultural understanding experience for the sake of fellowshipping. Also... as I was mentioning, "Negro" is actually the word used to say "black person" in spanish. While in english saying Black, "Negro" or "****" is offensive, in Spanish it is the rule by dictionary and no one takes offense to it because there is none. Again, here in the US we have a story with the word "Negro" but by origin, it is a very clean word. In french, like spanish, one says "Noir" which means "Negro" which means to anglo-saxons "Black person."

I find that the people who have problems with it is usually because of ignorance which they can't be blamed for not knowing another language. Could it be rendered as offensive in other countries? Absolutely, look at UK and USA. But it was meant to be for the Spanish speaking world, not to be marketed in rural Arkansas.

PS - aznkillabeezZz you owe me your apologies. As I said, Yao Ming would be forced to play using the pretext for national pride in order to play the olympics, even though he is not fully recovered. Yao Ming himself vindicated me, geez, thanks Yao. I will be looking forward for your apology, just call me to my number 713-533-4509.

Why are you always mixing Spain with Latin America ?
Spain and Latin America have nothing to do , they are totally different., except for the language.

Spain is a european country, with european culture, european race, european food,.traditions
Plus, within Spain there are different cultures and languages, for example the Basque, Galician, Celtic culture, etc. The Catalan language wich is spoken by 10 million people, Pau Gasol is catalan