OT: NBA Live 09 vs NBA 2K9?

[McGrady2Head]

thats another reason i dont like Live. Every live game that i have gotten, after about 20 min of playing the game, i cant beat every team by like 40 pts every game. even on the hardest level. I like 2k because its so hard to beat the computer. I just started a season with the rox and im 0-2 lol

[MaxRider]

thats another reason i dont like Live. Every live game that i have gotten, after about 20 min of playing the game, i cant beat every team by like 40 pts every game. even on the hardest level. I like 2k because its so hard to beat the computer. I just started a season with the rox and im 0-2 lol

i played the demo for both
on offense 2K9 is really realistic
but on defense ... there is no defense
only reason i'm thinking buying it this year is because we got a good team i like
so i don't have to do lots of trades

[jove9]

Defense DOES exist on 2K, but it's always on the other side of the court.

The computer will score on you whenever it wants to. On the other hand, you will have to run the offense and set things up perfectly to score.

It is impossible to:
A) drive on the computer
B) guard anyone in the post
C) move from one spot to another while dribbling in less than 7 seconds because of all the sliding your character does.

Anyone know any secrets to playing defense in this game? Yeah, I know about the lockdown button.

Doesn't always work.

[Iggyemu]

Defense DOES exist on 2K, but it's always on the other side of the court.

The computer will score on you whenever it wants to. On the other hand, you will have to run the offense and set things up perfectly to score.

It is impossible to:
A) drive on the computer
B) guard anyone in the post
C) move from one spot to another while dribbling in less than 7 seconds because of all the sliding your character does.

Anyone know any secrets to playing defense in this game? Yeah, I know about the lockdown button.

Doesn't always work.

You can't defend the post. I usually find the guy thats killing me and double team. Average post players will destroy you so it sucks when you have to double Charlie V from the Bucks. Perimeter wise you have to get around the screen..if you don't the AI will screw up the pick and roll defense and your man will get an open shot and everyone makes an open jumper from anywhere on the floor in this game. The animations suck for getting over the pick. You feel like you lose control..best thing is see the pick coming and get to where you know the guy is gonna.

Use lock down on perimeter..challenge passes by trying to steal when they pass. And you gotta jump yourself when they shoot. They'll usually miss when you challenge. The problem with the game is just the way the computer can catch and finish around the basket. There really is little you can do about it and it gets frustrating. Average players can finish anything in traffic around the basket.

Typical poorly tested games. This year they made it so that all players don't miss the easy shots around the basket like in years past. But in doing so they made it so they can't miss the hard shots around the basket. This game needed more work and it shows and its sad b/c this is supposed to be the best game on the market.

[MaxRider]

Defense DOES exist on 2K, but it's always on the other side of the court.

The computer will score on you whenever it wants to. On the other hand, you will have to run the offense and set things up perfectly to score.

It is impossible to:
A) drive on the computer
B) guard anyone in the post
C) move from one spot to another while dribbling in less than 7 seconds because of all the sliding your character does.

Anyone know any secrets to playing defense in this game? Yeah, I know about the lockdown button.

Doesn't always work.

that's the problem
no defense
which mean i don't have to play on the defense end
i don't know if the actual version will have sliders to adjust or what
because it look like i wont buy any of them any time soon
i have a feeling i'm going to get the dark knight before a nba video game (probably not again this year)

[aznkillabeezZz]

What do you mean there's no defense? I am winning games pretty comfortably so far in the exhibition games in pro level and i haven't played that much. I'm using the Rockets though, their defense is pretty good, But offensively many other teams like lakers and celtics are easier to use. Defensively if u man mark and don't let em drive to the rim, challenge their shot they miss. If the defense gets overwhelming, just scroll to a wingplayer and try to steal when they pass, and autoguard the ballhandler. The shotclock helps to see when the opponent will shoot it.

You'll get better as you play more i guess.. I've always found it difficult in the beginning on the earlier 2k versions and you get better as you play more. I could drive in the rim too, you just have to have the right timing and place. The streak meter also tells you if the player is hot or not . SO you should pass to the player who is hot. Same goes w/ the comp .. They're streaky.

[JordansBulls]

thats another reason i dont like Live. Every live game that i have gotten, after about 20 min of playing the game, i cant beat every team by like 40 pts every game. even on the hardest level. I like 2k because its so hard to beat the computer. I just started a season with the rox and im 0-2 lol

Are you playing 2k9 on Xbox 360 on Hall of Fame Mode?

I don't see how you start off 0-2 with the Rockets team that they have. Just give the ball to Yao in the post or T-mac on the perimeter. Man it is so easy to dominate on the game with a big man in the paint and a good wing player.

[Iggyemu]

Anz the game is meant to be played on All star so thats when you begin to see the issues with the game. On Pro I beat teams by 30-40 points easy. Turn it up to all star and you absolutely can't stop them. You have to essentially out score them...which means you gotta have enough go to money plays in your arsenal. Luckily for Rocket fans...Yao misses nothing around the basket. But imagine how bad Bulls fans have it.

[JordansBulls]

Anz the game is meant to be played on All star so thats when you begin to see the issues with the game. On Pro I beat teams by 30-40 points easy. Turn it up to all star and you absolutely can't stop them. You have to essentially out score them...which means you gotta have enough go to money plays in your arsenal. Luckily for Rocket fans...Yao misses nothing around the basket. But imagine how bad Bulls fans have it.

With the Bulls lineup I don't play any real good teams. I play teams like Indiana, Miami, Milwaukee, Washington, New Jersey, and I did play Cleveland once.
Bulls don't have enough offense on that team. I won the games but mainly because I have to go bezerks from the 3 pt line.

I actually traded Yao and T-mac to the Bulls for Rose, Deng, Gordon, Tyrus and Noah so that the Bulls could have a good 1-2 punch and we are unstoppable with that lineup.

Have you played against New Orleans yet or the Cavs yet on Hall of Fame level?

Jesus Christ, I can't stop Chris Paul or Lebron for nothing even if I say double team and deny ball.

[ikedog34]

I've been playing 2k on association mode, but i only play 3 min. quarters so i can have the time to play more games. Even on pro i'm struggling from game to game and my team seems to be getting worse even though i'm 2nd in the league. I think because i can't rack up the stats in short games it's costing me on the overall so i'm simming more games with full quarters to get the team back up to snuff. The game ain't great. If the system gets a second of daylight through the middle it's one dribble, two steps and some spectacular finish over three defenders or a trip to the foul line. It's like pulling teeth some games.

[JordansBulls]

One thing I don't like about the game is that when I change the players shoes for the playoffs to black, it seems like the shoes appear "White" at home.

I want to have that playoff atmosphere like the 90's Bulls where we wear the black sneakers or even the Rockets in the playoffs where they wear the Black Sneakers.

Has anyone seen a way to change the sneakers to black for "Home Games"?

[jove9]

I've been playing 2k on association mode, but i only play 3 min. quarters so i can have the time to play more games. Even on pro i'm struggling from game to game and my team seems to be getting worse even though i'm 2nd in the league. I think because i can't rack up the stats in short games it's costing me on the overall so i'm simming more games with full quarters to get the team back up to snuff. The game ain't great. If the system gets a second of daylight through the middle it's one dribble, two steps and some spectacular finish over three defenders or a trip to the foul line. It's like pulling teeth some games.

I know what you mean. I played the Hawks (the Hawks!) the other day and they beat me 116-115 in overtime. Joe Johnson was unstoppable; he had 53 points. No matter what I did (double team, deny the ball, etc) he kept scoring at will.

Yao missed a point blank layup at the buzzer to lose the game for me.

It feels like I'm getting worse at the game. This was only on pro difficulty level. I used to blow teams out, but now they are playing me close.

[Iggyemu]

I've been playing 2k on association mode, but i only play 3 min. quarters so i can have the time to play more games. Even on pro i'm struggling from game to game and my team seems to be getting worse even though i'm 2nd in the league. I think because i can't rack up the stats in short games it's costing me on the overall so i'm simming more games with full quarters to get the team back up to snuff. The game ain't great. If the system gets a second of daylight through the middle it's one dribble, two steps and some spectacular finish over three defenders or a trip to the foul line. It's like pulling teeth some games.

I know what you mean. I played the Hawks (the Hawks!) the other day and they beat me 116-115 in overtime. Joe Johnson was unstoppable; he had 53 points. No matter what I did (double team, deny the ball, etc) he kept scoring at will.

Yao missed a point blank layup at the buzzer to lose the game for me.

It feels like I'm getting worse at the game. This was only on pro difficulty level. I used to blow teams out, but now they are playing me close.

Turn clutch factor off. Its the most ridiculous aspect of 2K. With it on their guys will make every shot and you will miss the big shots when the game is close. If you are on the road you'll likely lose to most teams you play with this option on. Either turn it off or reduce the sliders to 15 for the computer and about 25 for you. It has way more affect on the computer than it does on you. At the end of the day you still have to get yourself a good shot....but with it on for the computer...they just have to take a shot and it will go in.

[jove9]

I'll try that. Thanks for the advice.

[Joe Kleazy]

I agree 2K has SOME issues, but for some of the complaints I have heard here and on other sites.....it just seems that people aren't as nice as they like to convince themselves they are. If they cant win every game in their association by 50 or even beat the computer as much as they like then they bash the game. These people belong on NBA Jive anyways.

Glitches appear in EVERY GAME CREATED so unfortunately some issues will show up.

People claim they want competition from the computer and the developers have to find a way to balance the AI to make it harder even if that means overpowering the CPU sometimes. Then you have the people who expect real-life basketball on a disc for $60......wanting players to go to the club, get pu**y, drive their cars and all kinds of crazy sh**.

People also want to dictate how others play online when you know that little kids have computer service and will play Sh***y on there too. Its a $60 game that comes out yearly without much time to make it drasticly better, just appreciate the thing for what it is and ENJOY whether it be Live or
2K.

[MaxRider]

Just bought Live 09. I can't help it, BestBuy is giving $15 gift card for purchasing the game. Pretty sure I can find something to use that gift card on Black Friday. Told you I'm just going to buy whichever is the cheapest. I can't believe I have to go to the 2nd BestBuy to get a copy (today the one closest to work), the one closest is sold out. They got bunches of 2K9 copies. I guess either people just buy whichever the cheapest or not many people care about review or simulation basketball or whatever.

[Vator]

I downloaded the demo of Live...it's ok. Still not as good as 2K in my opinion. I didn't really like the feel of the new 2K9 at first, but once I figured it out, I loved it. It is probably the best NBA game to date.

[MaxRider]

I downloaded the demo of Live...it's ok. Still not as good as 2K in my opinion. I didn't really like the feel of the new 2K9 at first, but once I figured it out, I loved it. It is probably the best NBA game to date.

2K8 feel better than 2K9. I haven't play the full version of 2K9 so I don't know how you can adjust the settings to play better defense. I'm just frustrated when I can't do anything on the defense. In Live I can adjust for CPU not to drive and dunk so often (definitely need to change, freaking CP3 is driving and dunk almost all the time). For sport games there's always next year, so I don't really care.

2K9 post up game is really nice, feel so real, but ... after awhile you'll figure it out you can do it basically with anyone. In Live09 which you can overpower with any good C/PF. Played a little during lunch (yeah my company got a PS3), with default setting I can score 100 pts with Yao if I want to. Double team can't stop his go to move or superstar move or whatever they called it. Pick and roll didn't work too well, need to adjust those ugly sliders, defender always caught up. At least Live 365 is working. They got Alston inactive, but not up-to-date since he should be ready to play tonight.