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semi OT: is anyone else getting tired of 

Post#1 » by biscuitsNgrady » Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:47 pm

all the negativity, and feel like Rocket fans need to just BREATHE.

Clutchfans isn't even readable anymore. Every ten minutes there's a thread from some obscure news source about T-Mac, a plethora of XXX appreciate right next to trade XXX thread.

I know when things aren't going good, people have to be blamed - it's just the nature of the matter within sports.

I think it's almost a consensus that this year, playoff success is the goal, and anything else is a failure. Playoff success ranging from getting out of the first round or winning the Championship. Regardless, both are contingent on the heath & play of our stars I think we can pretty much agree. And I think we can argue to death back & forth about T-Mac's status - but I'd like to think it's pretty much consensus that trading him is not an option (for a plethora of different reasons from supporters and opponents alike).

So why not focus on what we are, instead of what we aren't. & Have a take a positive approach to Rocket basketball? It's almost impossible to enjoy being a fan in the Rocket fan community right now.

We're not that far away from the Division lead. We're still competiting. We're not playing playoff level basketball, thats most definitely true - but there are a lot of bright spots. Wafer looks like becoming a capable wing player - Brooks has shown a lot of improvement this season, Deke is back, and Scolandry have proven to be a capable PF rotation. If we play better, particularly T-Mac - there's going to be a lot more easy shots for everyone. We're even still waiting for Shane. Life's not all that bad! Breathe rocket fans!
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Re: semi OT: is anyone else getting tired of 

Post#2 » by moofs » Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:31 pm

Damn right. I've been trying to attack the negativity rather than any specific idea. Don't even hardly care what the "problem", "solution", or whatever is, I hate the moaning.

It's pretty much been this way on this board since I've been here, just to varying degrees of severity. Pretty bad the last month though... I can't say too much though, being something of a mutant pessimist myself.

Nice to hear a breath of positive spin in that last paragraph.
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Re: semi OT: is anyone else getting tired of 

Post#3 » by RaoulDuke79 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:17 pm

If people would just remember they're cheering for the Rockets and not the Spurs they wouldn't be so upset when their team once again reminds them who they're cheering for(and I won't even bother getting into the folks who really only cheer for or against certain players and not the team).

I went into this season with the mindset of I don't care what happens during the regular season, I still expect we will be a playoff team when the time comes, and that's when it matters. I also don't expect them to win anything when they get there since they haven't proven to be able to do so for over a decade, so basically, I'll believe it when I see it, and I will save my joy for that moment. In the meantime, I just try to enjoy the ride, no matter how terrible it gets along the way.
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Re: semi OT: is anyone else getting tired of 

Post#4 » by grond » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:18 pm

Yes.

Having been away from this board then just coming back recently, I'd say the negativity is definitely more pronounced than previously. Lots of media people dubbing us 'contenders' after the Artest trade probably didn't help from the 'expectations too high' angle either.

Personally, I'm hopeful that the Boston game might have served as a turnaround pt of sorts. Especially with Battier back now.
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Post#5 » by moofs » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:10 pm

grond wrote:Yes.

Having been away from this board then just coming back recently, I'd say the negativity is definitely more pronounced than previously. Lots of media people dubbing us 'contenders' after the Artest trade probably didn't help from the 'expectations too high' angle either.

Personally, I'm hopeful that the Boston game might have served as a turnaround pt of sorts. Especially with Battier back now.


Properly set expectations go a long way to keeping customers happy in any business. Funny thing is, our expectations were set properly - contenders with a caveat of health - just no one's bothering to keep the caveat in mind, then moans as if it wasn't an expectation. It's their own fault, really, since it shouldn't be disappointing if you knew it wasn't an unlikely outcome, but still gets very annoying.

Not like there were many other options, and trying to press the big red button over and over again at this point really won't accomplish anything.

Everyone should do like Raoul said - sit back, and enjoy the ride. Remember, at heart, it's entertainment. Bitching makes entertainment loads of un-fun. No reason to be miserable for 4-6 more months if things don't manage to right themselves.

p.s. How did "Bitching" get past the language filter? I'm rather surprised.
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Re: semi OT: is anyone else getting tired of 

Post#6 » by TMACFORMVP » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:50 pm

I get tired of it, but I'm one of those main proponents to the negativity on this board, I think more so than anyone giving up on anyone or this team as a whole, it's more a lack of frustration that's been boiling since the 04-05 season, falling short of expectations every season. I'll admit though, I overreact far too much after a loss, or poor performance. But CF is another level, that board is unreadable, constant negativity and bashing. Nothing will please those guys..
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Re: semi OT: is anyone else getting tired of 

Post#7 » by PocketRockets » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:48 am

TMACFORMVP wrote:I get tired of it, but I'm one of those main proponents to the negativity on this board, I think more so than anyone giving up on anyone or this team as a whole, it's more a lack of frustration that's been boiling since the 04-05 season, falling short of expectations every season. I'll admit though, I overreact far too much after a loss, or poor performance. But CF is another level, that board is unreadable, constant negativity and bashing. Nothing will please those guys..


+1

Also, is it wrong to bash a team that's stacked with this much talent, while a team like the Cavs have the best (or 2nd) best record in the league? A lot of this negativity is b/c we all know this team can do way, way better than it's doing. When can we be negative then?? If we don't make the playoffs? If we lose 5 straight? If we lose in the first round, again!!?? I'll let you guys decide.

I hardly bash players for doing badly. Scola, AB, Ron, Battier,etc all work hard and if they have a tough game, I have faith that they will pick it up the next game. It's when players don't try and just walk through the "motions," half-ass their way through the season is when I get mad.
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Re: semi OT: is anyone else getting tired of 

Post#8 » by TMU » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:18 am

I really don't mind the negativity around this board, but I got tired of my own - especially when I got carried away during a heated argument with Shay (sry Shay). Sometimes I wonder if it was necessary.

I've been trying to follow the steps of St. Raoul and refrain myself from further negativity and pessimism. Life is larger than the Houston Rockets. :D
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Post#9 » by tha_rock220 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:25 am

It's hard to be positive knowing Jessica Alba had a kid and there's a movie about Biggie coming to theatres.

Honestly, I think the negativity is becuase of years of high expectations to start the season followed by a huge fizzle. I realized it was foolish when I skipped game 7 against Utah in 07 to watch De La Hoya-Mayweather. I'll still get frustrated because I want to the Rockets to win, but 10 minutes after the game ends it doesn't matter.

I blame the ultimate pessimist, Iggyemu, for this problem.
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Post#10 » by moofs » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:39 pm

Oddly, Iggy's pessimism is the only one that doesn't bother me. It's like a good luck charm.
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Re: semi OT: is anyone else getting tired of 

Post#11 » by smapor » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:32 pm

Everybody is guilty of it, including everybody who post in this thread, because this thread is about negativity about negativity.

If you happen to find a perfect forum with no negativity, it has to be one of the dullest boards around.

Just take a look at any board, the top teams (when they lose), you see comments of trade this, trade that, player X can do this, player Y is slow.

Call it Human nature.

However, every Rocket Fan can agree on this, we want to Win and we want to Win big. After all thats why you root for your favorite team.
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Post#12 » by HTown_TMac » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:37 pm

If everyone agreed, it would not be a forum, or life.
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Post#13 » by moofs » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:54 pm

I love being negative about negativity though :cheesygrin: Is there anything better to be negative about? (other than WWII Germany, which is apparently a requirement for being American)

As far as how a board can be interesting without being negative.. it's by being informative, humorous, and a source to learn non-obvious facts or insights about the game, teams, players, and any other aspects of it that interest you. E Wizzle, for instance, was the best at these kinds of posts, which is why I wish he'd hurry up and finish college already. We have a few other posters here who post things of that sort fairly often. I tend to try and teach people things, which could be looked at as being high and mighty if one were so inclined to see it that way (and many have), but I prefer to look at as trying to be helpful (which is typically my intent). None of the above require negativity.

Also I only root for my favorite team when they use Tide, can't stand that Gain crap and its pathetic brand of "color-fast". (kek)
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Post#14 » by spolgar » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:11 pm

Complaining about negativity is kinda silly. Admitting there is a problem and doing something about it is very much not. I think if the posters remind others that the rockets have had to pencil in a different starting line up for each of the last 10 games whilst still remaining 10 games over 500, much of the negativity will go away. By that number and the strength of our schedule alone, the rockets are playing better than anyone in the league has expected right now. We are 1.5 games out of first place in our division and hilariously enough, 1.5 games out of being 2nd place in the western conference. We are doing incredibly well despite the circumstances. With a healthy cast, the rockets were still barely over 500 last year before middle of january. They are making tremendous progress already despite having a 2 out of their 3 stars habitually injured. When we get them back, when the rockets have had time to practice, right around the all star break, everything's going to be a-okay.

And if it's not, it's still fine. Nobody is dying or anything.
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Post#15 » by BaYBaller » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:25 pm

The problems we all know about, but the solution is always the same.

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Post#16 » by moofs » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:44 pm

:party: :beer:
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