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Post#21 » by moofs » Mon Jun 1, 2009 1:45 pm

texasholdem wrote:Who would you rather get to replace Mutombo?

Zaza Pachulia?
Mikki Moore?
Rasheed Wallace?
Antonio McDyess?
Jamaal Magloire?
Shelden WIlliams?
Jason Collins?
Chris Wilcox?
Theo Ratliff?
Drew Gooden?
Stromile Swift?


I don't suppose you noticed all those guys were either has-beens or never-was's before you posted that, right?

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I'd go 'Dyess. So would a lot of other teams pry. Not likely.
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Post#22 » by texasholdem » Mon Jun 1, 2009 7:40 pm

moofs wrote:I don't suppose you noticed all those guys were either has-beens or never-was's before you posted that, right?
I'd go 'Dyess. So would a lot of other teams pry. Not likely.


That list is the big men who are unrestricted free agents this summer.

Anderson Varejao is about to become unrestricted as well but his asking price will probably be too much

Chris Wilcox had a 26 point/24 rebound game against the Rockets in April 2006 while he was with Seattle and he's still only 27 years old.
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Post#23 » by moofs » Mon Jun 1, 2009 8:16 pm

Ah duh, yeah I knew that but didn't consider it in my response. My bad.

Either way, only McDyess and, yeah maybe Wilcox, would halfway be worth considering. Iirc, Wilcox's defense sucks though, which wouldn't be too good for us. He'll get overpaid by someone pry on the pretense that he's a big that can score some.
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Post#24 » by BaYBaller » Mon Jun 1, 2009 9:17 pm

Hayes > Varejao. The only thing Hayes doesn't bring on defense is shot blocking, which Varejao isn't known for either. In a perfect world we'd have a shot blocker at that back-up spot (Deke was such a perfect fit for that back-up C role).

McDyess is a nice option but remember most likely this is just going to be Yao-insurance for the regular season. If Yao goes down in the playoffs again it's not going to matter in the grand scheme of things, so paying a known big in the FA market is something I highly doubt Morey is going to do. The best option remains to groom a young player on a rookie contract but HOU's big man prospects haven't shown anything, and I do not see a team letting any of their bigs with potential go as the majority of teams out there could use a defensive C.

All in all I wouldn't be surprised if that spot goes unfilled into next season.
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Post#25 » by hackle » Tue Jun 2, 2009 1:22 am

If we had mutumbo we are in lakers position right now and we are all going crazy
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Post#26 » by HTown_TMac » Tue Jun 2, 2009 3:22 am

hackle wrote:If we had mutumbo we are in lakers position right now and we are all going crazy

Correction.. If we had health overall. We would have been in the position of the Lakers and/or Magic 4 games away from our rings.
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Post#27 » by aznkillabeezZz » Thu Jun 4, 2009 5:39 am

They're better defensively at single coverage in the post, since they have better shot blockers.. But we're better defensively as a collective. Offensively its a toss up. Both are able to score when they're playing well.
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Post#28 » by rocketsballin » Thu Jun 4, 2009 10:20 pm

moofs wrote:
texasholdem wrote:Who would you rather get to replace Mutombo?

Zaza Pachulia?
Mikki Moore?
Rasheed Wallace?
Antonio McDyess?
Jamaal Magloire?
Shelden WIlliams?
Jason Collins?
Chris Wilcox?
Theo Ratliff?
Drew Gooden?
Stromile Swift?


I don't suppose you noticed all those guys were either has-beens or never-was's before you posted that, right?

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I'd go 'Dyess. So would a lot of other teams pry. Not likely.


wtf are you talking about? gooden, wilcox, moore, zaza arent good backups? you looking for an andrew bynum type backup? cuz that doesnt exist. backup players are not sposed to be all stars, they're sposed to be BACKUP PLAYERS. thats wat that ilst was...BACKUP CENTERS. not the best list but it isnt terrible. gooden is a baller and can put up double doubles if yao goes down or something.
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Post#29 » by moofs » Fri Jun 5, 2009 1:16 am

Ok, I'll go over them one by one.

Zaza is a tall Chuck Hayes - no blocks from him either. Slightly better rebounding. Worse defense I'm sure.
Mikki = old (34), frail, and not very good.
Rasheed is p Petrified chucker
McDyess is old but still effective and not cheap.
Magloire = Wasn't someone suggesting we should get Eddy Curry the other day?
Williams is a downgrade from Hayes
Collins = I like the Collinses for some reason, but nah.
I gave you Wilcox, but he's not cheap either.
Isn't Ratliff retiring? I'd take him too, thought he was a LOT older than 35-36
Gooden... he reminds me of Vin Baker. ... in a bad way.
Swift sucks royally.

i.e. either none of those guys can be had at a bargain price relative to their value, or none of those guys are an upgrade to our current backups (Scola/Hayes)

Look, I know this board gets stuck on getting a guy that's 6'10" to back up Yao. Anyone living will do, any price will do, just SO LONG AS THEY ARE 6'10" OR BETTER, like that's the ONLY criteria. I just don't see much point to any of those guys.
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Post#30 » by texasholdem » Fri Jun 5, 2009 8:54 pm

moofs wrote:
Look, I know this board gets stuck on getting a guy that's 6'10" to back up Yao. Anyone living will do, any price will do, just SO LONG AS THEY ARE 6'10" OR BETTER, like that's the ONLY criteria. I just don't see much point to any of those guys.


I think Mutombo has proven how important the back up center position is to this team.
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Post#31 » by rocketsballin » Sat Jun 6, 2009 9:58 pm

moofs wrote:Ok, I'll go over them one by one.

Zaza is a tall Chuck Hayes - no blocks from him either. Slightly better rebounding. Worse defense I'm sure.
Mikki = old (34), frail, and not very good.
Rasheed is p Petrified chucker
McDyess is old but still effective and not cheap.
Magloire = Wasn't someone suggesting we should get Eddy Curry the other day?
Williams is a downgrade from Hayes
Collins = I like the Collinses for some reason, but nah.
I gave you Wilcox, but he's not cheap either.
Isn't Ratliff retiring? I'd take him too, thought he was a LOT older than 35-36
Gooden... he reminds me of Vin Baker. ... in a bad way.
Swift sucks royally.

i.e. either none of those guys can be had at a bargain price relative to their value, or none of those guys are an upgrade to our current backups (Scola/Hayes)

Look, I know this board gets stuck on getting a guy that's 6'10" to back up Yao. Anyone living will do, any price will do, just SO LONG AS THEY ARE 6'10" OR BETTER, like that's the ONLY criteria. I just don't see much point to any of those guys.


daam you are one terrible hater or something, sheeeznuss.

that isnt the best list for backup centers, and i would rather look at another list, lol, but when you are talking about a backup center...wat the hell comes to your mind? rasheed is a legit starter how the **** is he not a legit backup center? slash power forward? drew gooden was 10/8 till chicago, and they have a crowded frontcourt there, i doubt he cant put up those numbers again. zaza has size, scoring, reboudning, defense, makes his fts, of corse he has worse defense then hayes, if you know hayes you know that he's a top 20/30 defensive forward.

plz tell me wat you think a backup center is.
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Post#32 » by rocketsballin » Sat Jun 6, 2009 10:23 pm

or were you looking for someone who can play 25mpg? yao plays 28? if that then rasheed can do the job and also wont clog the lane, something tmac has problems with since in houston and rafer when he was here.

i dunno just seems crazier then hell to say thats a bad list for a bacup center.
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Post#33 » by texasholdem » Sun Jun 7, 2009 7:35 am

Drew Gooden isn't with Chicago. he finished the year with San Antonio. That list is the unrestricted free agents. I think Rasheed is going to want more money than we can afford to pay.
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Post#34 » by realfung » Tue Jun 9, 2009 4:47 pm

No doubt Rockets was impressive in the series but I think they are not consistent. They need a person goes to the line 8-9 times a night.
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Post#35 » by moofs » Tue Jun 9, 2009 5:44 pm

roxfashoballin wrote:or were you looking for someone who can play 25mpg? yao plays 28? if that then rasheed can do the job and also wont clog the lane, something tmac has problems with since in houston and rafer when he was here.

i dunno just seems crazier then hell to say thats a bad list for a bacup center.


I posted your reply to the backup center thread. No sense in keeping it over here.

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