Source: Knicks Inquire About T-Mac

[Clincher]

What is it with all these Knicks fans trolling our board? Man, their team inquires about T-Mac, so they think that they gotta come over here and trash our team.

WTF?

Ehh the Knick posters have a point though, for a 50 game rental(No guarantee he stays healthy) T-Mac isnt worth our lotto pick last year(Gallinari), a very good young talent in Chandler or the lotto pick of this year.

But yeah I dont see the point of trashing a team who has been much better than us for the past few years.

[texasholdem]

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All I gotta say is, we beat your ass in the 94 finals. suck it

Today is the 15th anniversary of the OJ Simpson car chase!

[tisbee]

Gotta love New Yorkers,some sportswriter writes total BS and they believe it's gospel.
The Teams aren't talking,the NY media is.

To be charitable,Knicks fans don't know much about the Rockets situation.
Ron Artest is a FA,as is the back-up SG Von Wafer.
The Rockets will NOT trade McGrady AND let Artest walk unless they get at least an All-Star caliber SG back.(To be blunt,Hughes is nowhere near that standard.) And Ron is looking for a big payday,and trading away McGrady is not going to help the teams' negotiating position.
If the Rockets' intent on trading McGrady is saving money the Knicks alledged package is pathetic,there are several better deals to be made. Let's look at the numbers.

Rockets are at @$64.5mil-some $4.5mil under expected Lux Tax.
The team signs Ron for $10mil,Wafer for $2.5mil and a back-up C for about $1mil.
McGrady is traded for Hughes and Mobley(who make @$660 MORE than McGrady). Insurance pays 80% of Mobley(80% of $9.5mil=$7.6mil). BTW,insurance money is not deducted from the cap/Lux Tax.
The Rockets are able to unload Cook at deadline for no other player.
Rockets Cap payroll is $75mil,another $6mil in Lux Tax=$81mil the Rockets actually pay,plus the balance of Cook's salary(and prob some cash to unload him,but we'll ignore that) and gets $7.6mil in insurance money.
Rockets net pay @ $75mil.
Team is carrying 15 players,so no room until Cook goes.
If the team can't unload Cook,it's net of @ $80.4mil.

Since not even NY fans claim this about anything but money,here's a much better financial deal.
McGrady to Dallas for Dampier and Stackhouse. Dampiers' last yr is NOT guaranteed and only $2mil of Stack's is guaranteed for this yr.
Rockets immediately gain a $1.9mil Trade Exception.
Rockets buy out Stack for the $2mil.
Same as above except $1mil for another back-up SG/SF/PG as Dampier backs up Yao.
Rockets unload Cook as above.
$64.5-$8.3(Savings over T-Mac's salary)+$13.5(Ron,Von,etc.)-$3.5(Cook)=Cap value of $66.2mil and total of @$68mil actually pd.
$7mil less than the Knicks deal.

[red96]

Gotta love New Yorkers,some sportswriter writes total BS and they believe it's gospel.
The Teams aren't talking,the NY media is.

To be charitable,Knicks fans don't know much about the Rockets situation.
Ron Artest is a FA,as is the back-up SG Von Wafer.
The Rockets will NOT trade McGrady AND let Artest walk unless they get at least an All-Star caliber SG back.(To be blunt,Hughes is nowhere near that standard.) And Ron is looking for a big payday,and trading away McGrady is not going to help the teams' negotiating position.
If the Rockets' intent on trading McGrady is saving money the Knicks alledged package is pathetic,there are several better deals to be made. Let's look at the numbers.

Rockets are at @$64.5mil-some $4.5mil under expected Lux Tax.
The team signs Ron for $10mil,Wafer for $2.5mil and a back-up C for about $1mil.
McGrady is traded for Hughes and Mobley(who make @$660 MORE than McGrady). Insurance pays 80% of Mobley(80% of $9.5mil=$7.6mil). BTW,insurance money is not deducted from the cap/Lux Tax.
The Rockets are able to unload Cook at deadline for no other player.
Rockets Cap payroll is $75mil,another $6mil in Lux Tax=$81mil the Rockets actually pay,plus the balance of Cook's salary(and prob some cash to unload him,but we'll ignore that) and gets $7.6mil in insurance money.
Rockets net pay @ $75mil.
Team is carrying 15 players,so no room until Cook goes.
If the team can't unload Cook,it's net of @ $80.4mil.

Since not even NY fans claim this about anything but money,here's a much better financial deal.
McGrady to Dallas for Dampier and Stackhouse. Dampiers' last yr is NOT guaranteed and only $2mil of Stack's is guaranteed for this yr.
Rockets immediately gain a $1.9mil Trade Exception.
Rockets buy out Stack for the $2mil.
Same as above except $1mil for another back-up SG/SF/PG as Dampier backs up Yao.
Rockets unload Cook as above.
$64.5-$8.3(Savings over T-Mac's salary)+$13.5(Ron,Von,etc.)-$3.5(Cook)=Cap value of $66.2mil and total of @$68mil actually pd.
$7mil less than the Knicks deal.

Hmm....Knick fans and their garbage. There no doubt in my mind that Morey will net us with the best value that we can get. He's earned my trust so Im not worried at all. The Knicks can just keep doing what they've been doing for the last decade.

[College Boy]

did you guys forget we fired isiah and brought in donnie walsh and mike dntoni? there is no way in hell you guys are getting chandler or gallo or our 8th pick for a has been player who may not play for the first 30 games of next year. are you guys insane to think you are going to get anything of value for him in this market. no one is going to give you anything good for tmac. have fun losing every year and losing yao ming after 70 games like every year. you guys are a mediocre team with no future except for aaron brooks. at least the knicks have a future even ifwe dont get lberon we have a ton of flexibilty and a superstar will want to come play in teh bright lights of new york city. we are more attractive place to play then houston believe that and if you dont your nuts.

the guy was being sarcastic with adding yao because you think your getting gallo in a deal for tmac...obviously the rockets and knicks are talkign so we must have something you want

Come on man, lets get real and grow up.

1. Your pathetic attempts at slandering my team and hometown don't hold enough merit to command a response.
2. Even if they had some shade of truth to them, whats the point in coming here to say something like that? Do you think we're going to agree with you or something?
3. The Knicks asked the Rockets about T-Mac, not the other way around. We allegedly have some thing you want. There was no word about any response or offer from us.
4. Don't blow your load yet, they're only rumors thus far. There are no sources as of yet.
5. Nobody likes or agrees with a troll, except other trolls.

[moofs]

Man, wtf does Curry's name always show up back on our roster?? =(

And why would the clips want Maggette back? Is that the rumor? I know they were trying to give Baron back.

Also, Jackson isn't bad. He's shown he can play in a slow tempo system (SA) and a fast one with GS. Doesn't he get paid a bunch though? Curry and Jackson would limit us in the future having to resign scola and brooks too. I'll pass on this crap.

I think it's more of a rumor to incite interest in Tmac. I'm pretty sure nothing's on the table, but if Curry's off the board, Knicks might want to trade the pick who knows.

Ooo ooo I know this one! Casual fans are like real-life low-level/bad GMs. Scoring is the first, second, and third evaluator of player worths in the NBA, and Curry has been able to score in the past before being relegated to the bench (or whatever happened, can't say I keep up with Eddy "Worthless" Curry) last year. He can't do anything else, which is particularly bad for a big man, but who cares, he can score!

This whole thing was expected. Teams are going to inquire about McGrady as either due diligence or in trying to get a good trade while his value is low. Morey is going to explore things for the same reason. As has been pointed out, there likely won't be a trade unless a good deal somehow emerges.

[Crackfool]

Great article. http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2009/06/rock ... _tink.html

I'll quote a few lines for ignorant Knick fans:

The Rockets are not shopping McGrady; they are picking up the phone when it rings, and it rarely stops ringing. (Teams always say that, but in this unusual case, because of McGrady's contract and the financial climate, it happens to be true.)

McGrady's contract is huge ($22.5 million next season) and then it expires. Until he plays, insurance can take care of the cost through sometime next February. And teams all know this.

The Rockets would only move McGrady for someone with the whiff of star on him. They are not moving McGrady for Larry Hughes and Eddy Curry, or something like that, unless Morey's mathematicians determined that the Rockets do not have enough mediocre players and need to remake themselves to be more like Isiah Thomas' Knicks.

The Rockets would not make that kind of move for someone with durability issues. They would not go for a one-dimensional (no defense) player. Most of all, they would not move McGrady just to get a couple guys to fill out the roster, who at most would be insurance backups.

Still, if you like to play GM, this is a good time to do it. A few months ago, most of it was silly. (There was never, ever, ever a McGrady to New Jersey deal on the table.) Despite the emotions he inspires, the Rockets don't need to move McGrady. He can be an asset as a player or a contract, and the trade deadline is seven months away.

So there goes the Knicks pipedreams of trading Mobley/Hughes/Jeffries/Curry for McGrady/talent/picks.

[Teckon]

Knicks fan please also take note of this particular line:

"McGrady's contract is huge ($22.5 million next season) and then it expires. Until he plays, insurance can take care of the cost through sometime next February. And teams all know this."
If Tmac only played half a season, half of his salary ($11-12 million) will be paid by the insurance. That saving is greater than what Mobley's 80% salary can bring to the table!