DreamShook34 wrote:aznkillabeezZz wrote:lowry is trying to do too much . Joey Crawful are helping the suns
he didn't even call the ball out the first time it was out.. Not until Dudley fell on the ball out of bounds did he blow his whistle..
Luv those Knicks wrote:you were right
tha_rock220 wrote:That said, I enjoy watching this team play ever single game. After three seasons with Yao, McGrady, and Rafer making boneheaded plays and not making the effort its refreshing to see a group of guys who play like they have nothing to lose and work together.
xingjianma wrote:
Um ok I can see where you're coming from with Rafer and McGrady, but Yao?? He is a very smart basketball player, and he works and plays harder than anyone. Sometimes it's hard for 7'6 guys to dive for loose balls ya know. Tell me about some of these bone headed plays Yao makes and how he doesn't work hard, please!
xingjianma wrote:tha_rock220 wrote:That said, I enjoy watching this team play ever single game. After three seasons with Yao, McGrady, and Rafer making boneheaded plays and not making the effort its refreshing to see a group of guys who play like they have nothing to lose and work together.
Um ok I can see where you're coming from with Rafer and McGrady, but Yao?? He is a very smart basketball player, and he works and plays harder than anyone. Sometimes it's hard for 7'6 guys to dive for loose balls ya know. Tell me about some of these bone headed plays Yao makes and how he doesn't work hard, please!
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xingjianma wrote:tha_rock220 wrote:That said, I enjoy watching this team play ever single game. After three seasons with Yao, McGrady, and Rafer making boneheaded plays and not making the effort its refreshing to see a group of guys who play like they have nothing to lose and work together.
Um ok I can see where you're coming from with Rafer and McGrady, but Yao?? He is a very smart basketball player, and he works and plays harder than anyone. Sometimes it's hard for 7'6 guys to dive for loose balls ya know. Tell me about some of these bone headed plays Yao makes and how he doesn't work hard, please!
Luv those Knicks wrote:you were right
tha_rock220 wrote:xingjianma wrote:tha_rock220 wrote:That said, I enjoy watching this team play ever single game. After three seasons with Yao, McGrady, and Rafer making boneheaded plays and not making the effort its refreshing to see a group of guys who play like they have nothing to lose and work together.
Um ok I can see where you're coming from with Rafer and McGrady, but Yao?? He is a very smart basketball player, and he works and plays harder than anyone. Sometimes it's hard for 7'6 guys to dive for loose balls ya know. Tell me about some of these bone headed plays Yao makes and how he doesn't work hard, please!
This is too cute. Another Chinese dude who thought basketballs were large oranges before the 2002 draft.
Yao doesn't work harder than anyone, especially for the Rockets. If he did, he would have spent at least one of the last 6 NBA off-seasons working on his game instead of playing in pointless tournaments with the CNT like the Stankovic cup or the Asian championship. If he did, he wouldn't have been manhandled in the 2007 playoffs against the Jazz. Instead of playing entire games shooting bone headed fadeaways he could have been aggressive. It's so nice not having to watch him be taken out of the game by smaller guys.
So cute, you could only see Alston and McGrady.
) brought up, but he makes them rarely enough to satisfy me. But of course, I must be blinded by homer love since I'm Chinese!Iggyemu wrote:xingjianma wrote:
Um ok I can see where you're coming from with Rafer and McGrady, but Yao?? He is a very smart basketball player, and he works and plays harder than anyone. Sometimes it's hard for 7'6 guys to dive for loose balls ya know. Tell me about some of these bone headed plays Yao makes and how he doesn't work hard, please!
Yao was lazy. He should have worked harder to reduce his height. If he was serious about winning he would have tried to get down to 7'0 instead of 7'5. You Yao fans need open your eyes.
Aaron Brooks wrote:xingjianma wrote:tha_rock220 wrote:That said, I enjoy watching this team play ever single game. After three seasons with Yao, McGrady, and Rafer making boneheaded plays and not making the effort its refreshing to see a group of guys who play like they have nothing to lose and work together.
Um ok I can see where you're coming from with Rafer and McGrady, but Yao?? He is a very smart basketball player, and he works and plays harder than anyone. Sometimes it's hard for 7'6 guys to dive for loose balls ya know. Tell me about some of these bone headed plays Yao makes and how he doesn't work hard, please!
Remember that reach in foul against Billups (i think) that got him fouled out. Adelman gave him the death stare. Yao works hard, but don't make it sound like hes perfect.
roxfashoballin wrote:o this has potential . will the rock220 post a detailed and informative comeback, will he lash out with even more stereotypes, or will he end it all with his next post? stay tuned, for the real gm rocket board fights.
xingjianma wrote:
To be honest, it's exactly attitudes like this one that's keeping a lot of Chinese fans from posting here.
Yeah sure I thought basketballs were oranges, and I also thought baseballs were apples. I was definitely shooting oranges from the FT line in middle school, and it must have been oranges that everyone threw around at that first NBA game I saw in 2001 huh? Or maybe, you're just so set in your hating ways that you've stereotyped all Chinese fans based on a few individuals.
Hey, if you want to hate at least get your facts right. Those homer fans that you're trying to pin me as should have known that basketballs were not oranges as early as 1999, when Wang Zhizhi was selected by the Mavericks, which was breaking news back then, as it was totally out of the blue, or 2001, when Wang debuted as the first NBA player from Asia. Trust me, Wang was much bigger than Yao in China, at least before 2001.
And your point about Yao playing for the CNT is, well, it shows a lot of patriotism. I guess your opinions were shared by many of the American superstars who didn't want to play for the NT between 2000 and 2004 huh? I'm not saying that it was the right thing to do having him back for some of those tournaments, but whoever you blame, you can't blame Yao. Can you blame him for wanting to lead the Chinese NT in the Olympics or the World Championship? He loves his country, and feels it an honor as much as an obligation to play for the NT, is there anything wrong with that?
And, please tell me, how would you like Yao to work on his game? What does he drastically need to improve? Does he need to be a better shooter? Develop a better hook shot? Work on his left hand? I'm pretty sure he's a decent post defender too. Or would you like him to magically lose some height or gain some hops? You don't want him taking jumpers? Want him to be more aggressive? What do you want him to do, play like Shaq or Dwight? He's got a shot that very few players can defend, so why not use it? And it's not like he plays like big Z, And it's not like he never attacks the basket.
And I'm so happy you brought up the 2007 playoffs. Wait a minute, hadn't he just recovered from a several-month-long injury?
I never said he never made bone headed plays. To be honest, who doesn't make bone headed plays every now and then? Of course he makes them too, like the instance AB (
What I had a problem with was your original point that Yao is just like McGrady and Rafer in making bone headed plays and not making the effort. To me, that's just ridiculous. Rafer makes bone headed plays on a nightly basis, and I don't think McGrady's ever worked very hard since establishing his superstar status in Orlando. Anyone else thinks Yao is just as bone headed and lazy as McGrady and Rafer?
Luv those Knicks wrote:you were right
tha_rock220 wrote:I never once tried to say Yao shouldn't play in the Olympics. If the summer games hadn't been in Beijing I'd have been all for him playing in Japan in 06(but the CNT was already in the Olympic tournament), but even then it didn't bother me. My complaint was the pointless tournaments he's been forced to play in every other off-season since he's been with the team that have worn him down. If you can point to me even mentioning the Olympics I'll never post again.
If I come off as annoyed with fans who constantly come to Yao defense, it's because I am. Hearing everything from Yao's stats being more important to team success to his NBA minutes making him less effective in international tournaments will do that you. That's not you and I shouldn't have said that in my post unless it was clear so I'm apologize.
That said, I'm not backing off from my original statement. Being taken out of your game for an entire series by the likes of Carlos Boozer and Mehmet Okur is a prime example of boneheadedness. Hell, I've never seen a big man as good as Yao turn the ball over as much as he does. His first professional priority should be the people who pay his bills. Playing in a tournament in the 07 offseason after you've missed 32 games makes no sense, and it's likely related to his not being able to finish the 08 season.
They're shooting better from the field, they're turning the ball over less, and they're fun to watch. You never get pissed when they miss. You never get pissed when the get scored on. They're just out there playing basketball.
