All Things T-Mac [Threads Merged]

[M4P]

No, but I don't expect his production to last.

Is he a good pick-up for the Knicks? Of course, but he would definitely not have the same production here in Houston.

[Vator]

POINT IS WHATS THE point in bashing him he is not on your team no more what im saying is if he was on houston he could of helped you guys out alot he has a really high basketball iq and skill !!!

Good point...he isn't on this team anymore so we don't need multiple T-Mac threads. I knew he still had something left when he dropped 10 points and 3 assists in less than 8 minutes against the Clips earlier this year. The guy has been an elite level player for the majority of his career and we have seen him do some absolutely amazing things over the years so you're not telling us anything we don't know. Yes, he is playing well right now, but it has only been a handful of games. His problem has always been durability so come back when the season is almost over. Four games is hardly a large enough sample size.

Making a thread about how great T-Mac is and we should have kept him is not going to endear you to the posters here who have lived and died each year with our hopes on T-Mac's back and knee and Yao's feet. It was time for a change. We weren't going anywhere with that combination and it was about damn time somebody with the power to do something about it figured that out. Move on...turn the page. Orlando was able to rebuild after losing T-Mac in his prime...the Rockets will too after losing T-Mac in decline. Not to mention, his relationship with the head coach was obviously at an unsalvageable point.

[Vator]

It is already happening...he got hurt again last night. 15 minutes and 0 points. I'm not a prophet nor do I wish bad on the guy. I'm just a diehard Rockets fan who has seen this scene play out time and time again. I know all the lines and I know how this movie ends already.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/wasn_going_to_try_to_push_through_n9T1cjQokc9BroOPPigRuM

Lucky the Knicks aren’t in a playoff race.

Otherwise, this Tracy McGrady experiment would be a disaster.

The audition of T-Mac took another lousy turn when he sat out the entire second half with his sore left knee. McGrady scored as many points last night as comedian Tracy Morgan, who sat courtside in last night’s 120-109 loss to the Grizzlies.

In all five of his games, McGrady’s knee has been an issue at a varying level of degrees. Yesterday he was unable to take playing back-to-back nights and quit on the game after banging a 3-pointer off the back iron at the first-half buzzer.

McGrady’s comeback is looking and sounding simi´lar to the multiple, failed comebacks of Allan Houston, who also had microfracture knee surgery.

[TMU]

What are the chances of getting re-injured in every of one's 5th game after one's comeback from like 5 surgeries? McGrady is just a hypochondriac.

[Zubby]

It is already happening...he got hurt again last night. 15 minutes and 0 points. I'm not a prophet nor do I wish bad on the guy. I'm just a diehard Rockets fan who has seen this scene play out time and time again. I know all the lines and I know how this movie ends already.

So your a prophet?

McGrady isn't "hurt".. where does it say that? Don't Imply.
Amar'e had the same problem, he had to take more time to rehab and he has been fine ever since.

I think I'll take the word of his doctors, trainers, and other NBA stars such as Wade and Arenas, when they say he will be back to a top level, over what you "know".

In regards to your previous post
I've been a Rocket fan my whole life too, and all I know is regardless of what people say, I know come the playoffs, McGrady plays just as hard if not harder than anyone else would played the game...

He is the greatest Rocket this decade and Adelman is a douche for doing what he did.
Adelman has never won anything, never will, but he gets the benefit over McGrady?

[TMACFORMVP]

I was on board that we handled it wrong this season (while McGrady handled it poorly last season), but seeing McGrady decide not to play in the fourth quarters despite having good games, or sitting out second halves, the reason we played him such little minutes was that it didn't disrupt the chemistry with him being in-and-out of the lineup so he could ease himself back.

I agree it's still a process, and McGrady should get his conditioning back, but the organization wanted to avoid a repeat of last year. Where T-Mac was constantly in and out of the lineup, and when he was in, was putting on a lack-luster performance because he was feeling pain. It's already happened with the Knicks. While I feel regardless Adelman had decided long before he didn't want to play McGrady no matter his production, its easier to see why we made that decision.

[Vator]

It is already happening...he got hurt again last night. 15 minutes and 0 points. I'm not a prophet nor do I wish bad on the guy. I'm just a diehard Rockets fan who has seen this scene play out time and time again. I know all the lines and I know how this movie ends already.

So your a prophet?

McGrady isn't "hurt".. where does it say that? Don't Imply.
Amar'e had the same problem, he had to take more time to rehab and he has been fine ever since.

I think I'll take the word of his doctors, trainers, and other NBA stars such as Wade and Arenas, when they say he will be back to a top level, over what you "know".

In regards to your previous post
I've been a Rocket fan my whole life too, and all I know is regardless of what people say, I know come the playoffs, McGrady plays just as hard if not harder than anyone else would played the game...

He is the greatest Rocket this decade and Adelman is a douche for doing what he did.
Adelman has never won anything, never will, but he gets the benefit over McGrady?

Um...clearly said I wasn't a prophet.

When a guy is complaining that he is in pain, is limping up and down the court and has to remove himself permanently from a game, I consider that as being hurt as in he is not healthy enough to play at a high level which he clearly wasn't last night. Just like last year when he kept taking himself out of games because his knee hurt and sitting out others before deciding he needed surgery. He'd look pretty good in some games and terrible in others. Looks just like last year to me when dare I say...he was hurt. The New York media already smell the blood in the water.

Him crumpling to the floor writhing in pain is neither what I meant nor attempting to imply or even something I want to see. His knee being in so much pain that he was incapable of contributing or even finishing out the game is and I think most people who read this understands that.

We'll see. I'll happily admit I was wrong if he returns to elite level and doesn't get seriously injured to the point where he has to miss at least 20 plus games next year. I could have sworn he said he was going to be jumping like he was back in his Toronto days prior to the season. A mouth can say anything. I don't see what Wade and Arenas have to do with this at all. Arenas played 15 total games the previous 2 years. That is worse than Yao and T-Mac. We can go down a long list of guys who didn't come back from this injury and were optimistic about it, but what would that prove? One thing has nothing to do with the other. The fact is there are more sad stories than success stories when it comes to this injury, but everybody is different. If he does make it back from the knee, there will be something else, there always is.

Lots of irony in your last statement...I almost thought you were saying this tongue in cheek. "Adelman has never won anything, never will, but he gets the benefit over McGrady?"

Okay I'll give him greatest Rocket this decade, but I'll also say this has probably been the worst decade in franchise history. One trip out of the first round and he didn't even play. That said, I'd do the Francis and Mobley trade 100 times out of 100.

[Zubby]

We'll see. I'll happily admit I was wrong if he returns to elite level and doesn't get seriously injured to the point where he has to miss at least 20 plus games next year. I could have sworn he said he was going to be jumping like he was back in his Toronto days prior to the season. A mouth can say anything. I don't see what Wade and Arenas have to do with this at all. Arenas played 15 total games the previous 2 years. That is worse than Yao and T-Mac. We can go down a long list of guys who didn't come back from this injury and were optimistic about it, but what would that prove? One thing has nothing to do with the other. The fact is there are more sad stories than success stories when it comes to this injury, but everybody is different. If he does make it back from the knee, there will be something else, there always is.

I was referring to Arenas and Wade cause they played w/ him over the summer and apparently think he'll be back.
Maybe we should make a friendly wager... T-Mac comes back you put something about how Adelman sucks in you sig, I'll do the same for McGrady... or something like that?

Lots of irony in your last statement...I almost thought you were saying this tongue in cheek. "Adelman has never won anything, never will, but he gets the benefit over McGrady?"

I'm just saying coaches get too much leeway, Adelman's system will never win anything.

AND he wants his favorites, refusing to play the guys he just doesn't like, evident through McGrady & Gerald Wallace.
Was he the coach that chased J. O'Neal out of Portland?

Meanwhile its save to say McGrady NEVER had a team around him capable of winning.
He is the only player since the golden age who I have seen getting doubled or tripled multiiple times down the court.

Okay I'll give him greatest Rocket this decade, but I'll also say this has probably been the worst decade in franchise history. One trip out of the first round and he didn't even play. That said, I'd do the Francis and Mobley trade 100 times out of 100.

When do we retired the #1 jersey?

[TMU]

Mike Dunleavy.

[Baller 24]

I've been a major supporter of McGrady, I know how well his team impact really was, he's a dynamic player, but don't say he never had a team capable of winning, those 2007 Rockets are either the eventual champions or they fall to the '07 Spurs in the WCF, there were no excuses for that team to make it out of the first round that season, they had it, both Yao and McGrady choked, absolutely no excuses whatsoever.

[TMU]

McGrady recruits LeBron. Saw this on the Knicks board.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6200549/

[Rendezvous]

[Zubby]

McGrady recruits LeBron. Saw this on the Knicks board.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6200549/

LeBron: "What about defense?"
T-Mac: "We don't need to play defense"
LeBron: "But I want to play defense."
T-Mac: "Fine, you play defense, I'll shoot"
LeBron"..."

LMAO!!!