In This Weeks Edition of "What a D****e Bag"...

[zapatasblood]

Lemme ask you this.... If he chose Cleveland, would anyone be saying how the special was so ridiculous.

YES!!! No matter what he choose i would still be on my standpoint. I don't car about him leaving Cleveland. It is his right to do so

[Ribalding]

I must have seen something other than what everybody saw. Because evidently people saw Lebron get on the TV, point out Cleveland on a map and staple a picture of his middle finger on it.

Pretty much, yeah. That's what he essentially did. Want me to show you how I know this?

The next time you have a girlfriend, when it comes time to break up with her, do it in front of all her friends and family. With a megaphone. At her brother's wedding. Put it on YouTube. If you survive (doubtful), the next time you have a girlfriend, when it comes time to break up with her, do it respectfully and in private. Be nice.

Now do you see why people might be a little pissed? It's not that he broke up with Cleveland. It's the way he did it. It was a dick move. Period.


P.S. - Also...People who refer to themselves in the 3rd person should all be dropped on their heads from a great height. (He did that, too. 5 times. Or did you manage to not hear that, either?)

[zapatasblood]

To me James not likable. Not because this last transgression but the ones before it. In high school he proclaims himself the "King" and the "Choosen One". What did he do that would give him that title? He only beat up on smaller, slower kids that have yet to develop like him. That is not enough to be called the "King" or the "Chosen One". He comes into the NBA and take MJ powder thing and his number and says it was out of respect for MJ. Sorry but it was not out of respect but the general fact that he thought he would surpass MJ but he didn't so now he changes his number to 6. Two years back he walks of the court and does not shake or congratulate Howard his friend for winning the series and then walks out without speaking to the press and because he got all butt hurt since he the team lost. Then he puts himself ahead of the game, Wade and Bosh by announcing on a one hour special that he is going to sign with the Heat. When the day before Wade, Bosh went on sports center together for 5 minutes to say that they are going to play each other in Miami. In that hour special I heard that ESPN and other reporters gave him a bunch of chances to thank Cleveland for what they had done for him and the fans for being so loyal to him even though he never won a title. The Cavs owner made countless moves to build a team around him making may trades (Shaq, Jamison, Mo Williams) to put a team around him but they never panned out. Gave James friends jobs in the organization and let his friends fly on the team plane to visiting games (now that is what I heard). I don't blame James for leaving Cleveland but just don't like the way he ripped the heart out of then fans and organization of Cleveland, Bull, Nets, Knicks and even those crazy fans that thought James would be a Clipper.

P.S. His on the court antics like dancing while on the bench when his team has a massive lead, or acting like he taking a picture but I forgot why does it but I know it pisses me off. James is more about himself and his brand then the game.

[zapatasblood]

Owner acted like a childish jackass and James acted like a self-absorbed jackass and that is all there is to it.

[College Boy]

Pretty much, yeah. That's what he essentially did. Want me to show you how I know this?

The next time you have a girlfriend, when it comes time to break up with her, do it in front of all her friends and family. With a megaphone. At her brother's wedding. Put it on YouTube. If you survive (doubtful), the next time you have a girlfriend, when it comes time to break up with her, do it respectfully and in private. Be nice.

Now do you see why people might be a little pissed? It's not that he broke up with Cleveland. It's the way he did it. It was a dick move. Period.

I beg to differ sir. I'll tell you why.

Firstly, your analogy, while creative, is a bit off. See in your example, breaking up that way would be completely unnecessary. Nobody else needs to know besides you and her. So if you actually have an option of a private break up, you're dick if you go out of your way to announce it to everyone.

But there was no such option here. No matter how he chose to announce his decision, it was going to be very very public. Even if he released a tweet saying he was going to Miami, it would have been everywhere, and the same amount of people would find out. There was no possible way of keeping this under wraps. So the sting would have been the same for Cleveland no matter what. So the fact that he had his own special really didn't make a difference.

P.S. - Also...People who refer to themselves in the 3rd person should all be dropped on their heads from a great height. (He did that, too. 5 times. Or did you manage to not hear that, either?)

Hey College Boy refers to himself in the third person from time to time... Whutchu tryna say???

[College Boy]

Owner acted like a childish jackass

This was my original point.

James acted like a self-absorbed jackass and that is all there is to it.

We'll just agree to disagree on this one.

[zapatasblood]

The fact that you do not think he is self-absorded is crazy. He has a big ego and thus he is self-absorded. For gods sake he nicknamed himself the "King" and the "Chosen One". That is not a testament to his arrogance and shows that he is full of himself

[Ribalding]

Firstly, your analogy, while creative, is a bit off. See in your example, breaking up that way would be completely unnecessary. Nobody else needs to know besides you and her. So if you actually have an option of a private break up, you're dick if you go out of your way to announce it to everyone.

But there was no such option here.

You just proved my point.

There was the option of NOT having a one hour long special on ESPN devoted to you breaking up with your girlfriend in as public a sports forum as exists in America.

He chose to do it.

Ergo, dick move.

[College Boy]

You know what I'll go with self absorbed. It's just that it usually is used for people who have no reason to be. I've always said he has the right to be as confident as he want's to be because he's proven to be worth his weight. It's the jack-ass part. Lebron is not a jack-ass. Sure he had the situation where he walked off the court, but hey, thats what happens when you make emotional decisions. At least he showed maturity by correcting it this year. Now a jack ass is Allen Iverson. Doesn't want to practice, ball hogs, and curses fans that try to get his autograph. But thats not Lebron. So we'll halfway agree on that one.

[College Boy]

You just proved my point.

There was the option of NOT having a one hour long special on ESPN devoted to you breaking up with your girlfriend in as public a sports forum as exists in America.

He chose to do it.

Ergo, dick move.

You completely dismissed everything else I said. It didn't matter what forum he used, it was going to be publicized to the maximum anyway. So the same amount of people would have found out whether he tweeted, had a press conference, or a 5 minute segment on Sports Center.

Sure the special was unprecedented, but after all the build up to that one moment in time, his choosing to leave would have been very messy no matter how he did it. I'm not saying Cavs fans don't have the right to be upset. But I am saying that using the special didn't make it any more public than any other medium. Everyone was going to find out. At least this way he was able the raise a half mill for the boys and girls club.

[Ribalding]

It didn't matter what forum he used, it was going to be publicized to the maximum anyway. So the same amount of people would have found out whether he tweeted, had a press conference, or a 5 minute segment on Sports Center.

Sure the special was unprecedented, but after all the build up to that one moment in time, his choosing to leave would have been very messy no matter how he did it. I'm not saying Cavs fans don't have the right to be upset. But I am saying that using the special didn't make it any more public than any other medium. Everyone was going to find out. At least this way he was able the raise a half mill for the boys and girls club.

It's not about "whether or not people would have found out". It's about how he delivered the news. He HAD options, and he chose the most over-the-top ego-driven option available. No. Wait. Scratch that. He took stock of all the ways to make his announcement and INVENTED a new, worse one.

I'll go back to my original analogy. He, like the world's dumbest boyfriend, went waaayyyy out of his way to humiliate his ex. And then, just like the twit boyfriend, he wonders why everybody hates him. Duh.

And 500k to the Boys and Girls Club? Please. That was almost as callous and self-serving as the 20k O.J. spent "to find the real killers". Almost. Because O.J.'s manager didn't take a broker's fee.

Next time? Write a check, you giant, entitled, douche.


("You" = him. Not you.)

[College Boy]

As fate would have it. Just as this debate heats up, my stamina fizzles. I appreciate the discourse, and I have more to say, I just don't have the the brain power to say it right. So after some good beauty sleep, we'll pick this up in the morning. To be continued.

[TMU]

It didn't matter what forum he used, it was going to be publicized to the maximum anyway. So the same amount of people would have found out whether he tweeted, had a press conference, or a 5 minute segment on Sports Center.

Sure the special was unprecedented, but after all the build up to that one moment in time, his choosing to leave would have been very messy no matter how he did it. I'm not saying Cavs fans don't have the right to be upset. But I am saying that using the special didn't make it any more public than any other medium. Everyone was going to find out. At least this way he was able the raise a half mill for the boys and girls club.

It's not about "whether or not people would have found out". It's about how he delivered the news. He HAD options, and he chose the most over-the-top ego-driven option available. No. Wait. Scratch that. He took stock of all the ways to make his announcement and INVENTED a new, worse one.

I'll go back to my original analogy. He, like the world's dumbest boyfriend, went waaayyyy out of his way to humiliate his ex. And then, just like the twit boyfriend, he wonders why everybody hates him. Duh.

And 500k to the Boys and Girls Club? Please. That was almost as callous and self-serving as the 20k O.J. spent "to find the real killers". Almost. Because O.J.'s manager didn't take a broker's fee.

Next time? Write a check, you giant, entitled, douche.


("You" = him. Not you.)

I was just about to say this. Well perhaps not as eloquently as you have put.
It was a classic PR move. LeBron used the kids to shield his true image: a self-absorbed narcissist. LeBron could have cared less for the kids.

[zapatasblood]

Yes TMU I forgot about the kids surrounding him. Remember Bonds bring his child and placing him on the table in front of the reports as they were about to question him about steroids and his adultery(although that in not our business).

I was going to throughout Micheal Jackson with O.J. and charity.

[rocketsballin]

lol, when i saw that there was an audience i was like "wouldnt they throw their chairs at lebron?" . thought it'd be a one on one interview w/ just the camrea crew watching.

[College Boy]

It's not about "whether or not people would have found out". It's about how he delivered the news. He HAD options, and he chose the most over-the-top ego-driven option available. No. Wait. Scratch that. He took stock of all the ways to make his announcement and INVENTED a new, worse one.

I'll go back to my original analogy. He, like the world's dumbest boyfriend, went waaayyyy out of his way to humiliate his ex. And then, just like the twit boyfriend, he wonders why everybody hates him. Duh.

See this is where we're not seeing eye to eye. You're not humiliating your ex by choosing to get in another relationship. It's only humiliating if you do it while still in a relationship with her. If LeBron chose to do this while still being under contract, then yes that would be humiliating to Cleveland. For example what Kobe did to the Lakers a couple seasons ago was humiliating to LA. If you're under contract or "in a relationship" with a team, then you're a dick if you announce you want to play for someone else. But if you wait until you're a free agent or your "single", like LeBron did, before choosing to get in bed with someone else, you're in the clear. Lebron did it the right way, he stayed faithful to Cleveland the entire time they were together. They had some troubles, but he gave the relationship every chance to get better. He saw it to it's logical conclusion. Then after they went they're separate ways, he chose to settle elsewhere as opposed to going back to his ex. There's nothing wrong with that. So him announcing his decision on nat TV wasn't anymore humiliating for Cleveland than any other team he didn't choose. I say this because he wasn't announcing that he was breaking up with Cleveland, because everyone already knew they were done. He was simply announcing who he was going to choose next.

And 500k to the Boys and Girls Club? Please. That was almost as callous and self-serving as the 20k O.J. spent "to find the real killers". Almost. Because O.J.'s manager didn't take a broker's fee.

Next time? Write a check, you giant, entitled, douche.


("You" = him. Not you.)

It's funny how y'all can just completely write off a good deed as self serving. leBron has been big in the Cleveland community. Why is this any different than any other charitable act?

[College Boy]

"I understand that the fans are hurt and I wish it could have been a different way. But Dan and whoever his partners are have to look themselves in the mirror and understand what he may have done may have cost them in the long run."

- LeBron James

This was my original point. As an owner you have to show more tact than this. People are saying he has balls, but anyone can talk out of the side of their neck. The man promised his fans a championship for crying out loud. What happens when it doesn't come to pass. This guy is an effin d****e bag.

[RaoulDuke79]

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