[Game 44] Rockets at Grizzlies

Aaron Brooks · Post #41 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:41 am

I'm pretty sure everyone that wanted AB off the bench wanted him to be the scoring punch off the bench, and now that hes shooting, you want more playmaking?

What was the point of playing Lowry in the 4th anyways? Conley torched him the 3rd, and all Lowry does in the clutch is dribble and throw up a jumper. Martin doesn't assert himself in the 4th, the only questionable decision was leaving Hill in for so long

Guy986 · Post #42 » by **Guy986** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:45 am

joeyyowee wrote:
Guy986 wrote:Apparently according to the Grizz commentators, Martin has really really small girly hands. Didn't know that... That would explain why his handle is so bad.

I doubt that has anything to do with it. If anything I would think big hands would make you worse at dribbling. Try dribbling a smaller ball and see how much harder it is.

I think it helps. Rondo has massive hands and he's a great ball handler. Ditto with Rafer Alston. Surely you dont want Shaq-like hands but a hand thats big enough to easily palm the ball helps with ball handling.

Guy986 · Post #43 » by **Guy986** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:49 am

Aaron Brooks wrote:I'm pretty sure everyone that wanted AB off the bench wanted him to be the scoring punch off the bench, and now that hes shooting, you want more playmaking?

What was the point of playing Lowry in the 4th anyways? Conley torched him the 3rd, and all Lowry does in the clutch is dribble and throw up a jumper. Martin doesn't assert himself in the 4th, the only questionable decision was leaving Hill in for so long

What did u do during the offseason? You're shooting under 40% from the field this season.

Why do you suk at shooting now? Adelman doesn't trust you anymore because he saw this video.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el0YsPudXwk[/youtube]

DreamShook34 · Post #44 » by **DreamShook34** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:49 am

joeyyowee wrote:
Guy986 wrote:Apparently according to the Grizz commentators, Martin has really really small girly hands. Didn't know that... That would explain why his handle is so bad.

I doubt that has anything to do with it. If anything I would think big hands would make you worse at dribbling. Try dribbling a smaller ball and see how much harder it is.

Disagree. I think the average Basketball Player has hands large enough for a regulation ball to feel like a Girl's Regulation ball would feel to an average guy, like me, playing pickup ball.

When I help my sis with her bball skills her bball is small but not so small it feels like a grapefruit in my hands. You have more control; You can palm it giving yourself a wider array of moves you wouldn't have with a bigger ball you couldn't palm as easily.

Because KM has small hands he has less control that other players have... Look at Rondo, his hands are bigger than Lebron's; the **** he does with it is crazy because he has so much control and can palm it with ease..

Aaron Brooks · Post #45 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:51 am

Guy986 wrote:
Aaron Brooks wrote:I'm pretty sure everyone that wanted AB off the bench wanted him to be the scoring punch off the bench, and now that hes shooting, you want more playmaking?

What was the point of playing Lowry in the 4th anyways? Conley torched him the 3rd, and all Lowry does in the clutch is dribble and throw up a jumper. Martin doesn't assert himself in the 4th, the only questionable decision was leaving Hill in for so long

What did u do during the offseason? You're shooting under 40% from the field this season.

Why do you suk at shooting now? Adelman doesn't trust you anymore because he saw this video.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el0YsPudXwk[/youtube]

I'm trying to avoid getting traded :cry:

Guy986 · Post #46 » by **Guy986** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:55 am

Then you're doing a great job AB.

I mean i don't really mind the shots. Shooters gotta shoot. Just like I don't get upset when Martin misses open shots. It happens.

But man AB such a streaky streaky shooter. You aren't gonna make baskets until Coach makes you the starter again, are ya?

Aaron Brooks · Post #47 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:59 am

Can't get into any rhythm playing in short spurts

DreamShook34 · Post #48 » by **DreamShook34** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:00 am

Ab just likes to start. It seems like he is in another mindset. I think it's mental; AB needs to be a starter to be effective.

Guy986 · Post #49 » by **Guy986** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:06 am

Aaron Brooks wrote:Can't get into any rhythm playing in short spurts

That is true. Adelman is gonna have to move Lowry back to the bench sooner or later. Yea he gonna be pissed but what ya gonna do?

Aaron Brooks · Post #50 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:17 am

So after seeing Marc Gasol tonight, whats the fuss about? Hes averaging 11/7 with 1.6 blocks a game for the season

Joseph17 · Post #51 » by **Joseph17** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:21 am

DreamShook34 wrote:
joeyyowee wrote:
Guy986 wrote:Apparently according to the Grizz commentators, Martin has really really small girly hands. Didn't know that... That would explain why his handle is so bad.

I doubt that has anything to do with it. If anything I would think big hands would make you worse at dribbling. Try dribbling a smaller ball and see how much harder it is.

Disagree. I think the average Basketball Player has hands large enough for a regulation ball to feel like a Girl's Regulation ball would feel to an average guy, like me, playing pickup ball.

When I help my sis with her bball skills her bball is small but not so small it feels like a grapefruit in my hands. You have more control; You can palm it giving yourself a wider array of moves you wouldn't have with a bigger ball you couldn't palm as easily.

Because KM has small hands he has less control that other players have... Look at Rondo, his hands are bigger than Lebron's; the **** he does with it is crazy because he has so much control and can palm it with ease..

I handle the ball better with an NBA ball, but I guess that's just because I'm used to it. I have a really small ball about the size of a cantaloupe that I use to improve my handles and it's almost impossible to dribble.

Joseph17 · Post #52 » by **Joseph17** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:23 am

Aaron Brooks wrote:So after seeing Marc Gasol tonight, whats the fuss about? Hes averaging 11/7 with 1.6 blocks a game for the season

He really isn't that good, but he gets a lot of attention because there aren't a lot of true centers in the NBA right now.

Joseph17 · Post #53 » by **Joseph17** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:25 am

Aaron Brooks wrote:I'm pretty sure everyone that wanted AB off the bench wanted him to be the scoring punch off the bench, and now that hes shooting, you want more playmaking?

What was the point of playing Lowry in the 4th anyways? Conley torched him the 3rd, and all Lowry does in the clutch is dribble and throw up a jumper. Martin doesn't assert himself in the 4th, the only questionable decision was leaving Hill in for so long

I still want him off the bench as a scorer, but I also want him playing the majority of the 4th. I don't know why Adelman always goes to Lowry as a 4th quarter scorer. He also seems to go to him when he needs big shots.

Post #54 » by **TMACFORMVP** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:49 am

I was surprised we actually got a good shot at the end, but Brooks just missed it. Pretty similar tale all season long, inability to close, we got whooped on the boards, and Randolph is a monster. West is so loaded with forwards, it's funny to think he'll barely be considered for an all-star berth.

pr0wler · Post #55 » by **pr0wler** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:50 pm

Why did Martin play so little again? it's not like he was having an off night, or the opposing SG was torching him on the defensive end. I don't get it.

x- · Post #56 » by x- » Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:33 pm

joeyyowee wrote:
Aaron Brooks wrote:So after seeing Marc Gasol tonight, whats the fuss about? Hes averaging 11/7 with 1.6 blocks a game for the season

He really isn't that good, but he gets a lot of attention because there aren't a lot of true centers in the NBA right now.

That's my whole point.

People are arguing that the biggest need for this team is a center and Morey therefore shouldn't trade for Melo.
But who exctactly is out there? Trading assets for stiffs like Robin Lopez or Hasheem Thabeet doesn't get you anywhere and I'd rather not pay $12mil+/season for a guy like Gasol.

I agree that Brooks didn't play well and that he's had a dissapointing season so far.
I still like him and think he's more effective starting, which of course is a problem because him and Martin won't be able to coexist and Lowry simply has outplayed Brooks.
Which leads me to believe that sooner or later at least one of Martin and Brooks will be traded. Brooks seems like the more logical choice, but I wouldn't be surprised either way.

shmito17 · Post #57 » by **shmito17** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:20 pm

Live in Toronto, been a huge Rockets fan for a long, long time.

The team plays hard every night, but I think it's unfair to Brooks to not give him his starting job back. I hate it when player A who starts gets injured and player B who plays off the bench is given starter's minutes going forward. Don't get me wrong, I like Lowry, but Brooks off the bench doesn't make sense. He is a streaky/clutch shooter, and as always, these type of players need rhythm and consistent PT. You can't just put Brooks at the end of the 4th quarter hoping for a miracle 3 point shot to tie or win a ball game. Not only that, but he has great chemistry with Scola on a PnR. For a former most improved player in Brooks, I find it really hard to believe that he hasn't been given starter's minutes back, despite Lowry's recent play.

Joseph17 · Post #58 » by **Joseph17** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:35 pm

x- wrote:
joeyyowee wrote:
Aaron Brooks wrote:So after seeing Marc Gasol tonight, whats the fuss about? Hes averaging 11/7 with 1.6 blocks a game for the season

He really isn't that good, but he gets a lot of attention because there aren't a lot of true centers in the NBA right now.

That's my whole point.

People are arguing that the biggest need for this team is a center and Morey therefore shouldn't trade for Melo.
But who exctactly is out there? Trading assets for stiffs like Robin Lopez or Hasheem Thabeet doesn't get you anywhere and I'd rather not pay $12mil+/season for a guy like Gasol.

I agree that Brooks didn't play well and that he's had a dissapointing season so far.
I still like him and think he's more effective starting, which of course is a problem because him and Martin won't be able to coexist and Lowry simply has outplayed Brooks.
Which leads me to believe that sooner or later at least one of Martin and Brooks will be traded. Brooks seems like the more logical choice, but I wouldn't be surprised either way.

Melo has about a 0% chance of resigning with the Rockets and the Rockets aren't good enough to be contenders even with Melo so I don't see the point in trading for him.

Post #59 » by **Optimism Prime** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:52 pm

What a game. Went to BWW to watch it, had a couple beers, had some delicious wings... and we lost.

Then I was texting and driving (DON'T DO THIS, KIDS), hit a curb, and just had to go get a new wheel... and four new tires.

Yeah. That kind of night. Should've stayed home and played video games, instead I got to see a bitter loss of a winnable game and a $600 repair bill. :nonono:

Ribalding · Post #60 » by **Ribalding** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:45 pm

I know everybody's got man crushes on Kyle Lowry, but let me interject one salient point, in the hope he'll read it:

Kyle, when you run the pick and roll, the defenders switch, and your big posts up their guard....GIVE THE BIG MAN THE DAMN BALL. (Or take your bigger, slower defender off the dribble). This is simple stuff.

7 times I've seen him screw this up in the last 5 minutes of the last 2 games. And people wonder why the Rox can't score in the 4th. Makes me crazy.