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Post#41 » by Zubby » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:49 pm

^^
Nice I watch a couple min of it... didnt hear anything new...

But for some reason Yi Jianlian jumped to my mind.
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Post#42 » by clockwork » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:43 pm

pretty repetitive highlight reel. like 5 plays being replayed for 7 minutes. he needs to get his ass to the rockets asap.
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Post#43 » by rocketsballin » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:03 am

i keep forgetting about this mug. c antwait to see him next season. a poor mans dirk nowitzki, i'll take it
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Post#44 » by 000001 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:18 pm

donatas is another reason why they have to trade scola

next year

patterson- donatas

if they don trade scola

scola - patterson - donatas
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Re: Donatas Montiejunas? 

Post#45 » by GrapeApe » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:31 pm

Guy986 wrote:
rocketsballin wrote:cant wait to see this guy next year


Everyone should tamper their expectation a little bit. He'll be a rookie and euro big always have helluva a time making the transition compared to the guards.


Big men make the transition better than guards. Big men tend to just have to be big while guards run the offense. Language is much more important with guard play.

Think Dirk, Gasol, the other Gasol, Gortat, Radmonovic, Diaw, Gallinari, Bargnani, Stojakovic, Turkoglu.

vs. Fernandez, Pietrus, Udrih, Calderon, Parker.

In fact, for years, decades really all the European players in the NBA were bigs, Vlade, Schrempf, Raja, Ilgauskas, Sabonis.
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Post#46 » by texasholdem » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:47 am

GrapeApe wrote:In fact, for years, decades really all the European players in the NBA were bigs, Vlade, Schrempf, Raja, Ilgauskas, Sabonis.


Except for Drazen Petrovic and Sarunas Marciulionis
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Post#47 » by Zubby » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:25 am

^^ Koufos, Erden, Ajinca, Podkolzin, Lampe, Gadzuric... lots of great European bigs in recent years GrapeApe ;)
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Post#48 » by clockwork » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:17 pm

to be fair, koufos played in ohio behind oden. gadzuric played at ucla.

while lampe didn't even have a mediocre european career before he got drafted.

same with erden, averaging 4-7 ppg 3-6 rpg through like 5 years in europe, then again he was the 60th pick overall, so what can you expect.
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Post#49 » by Zubby » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:50 pm

No Koufos never played with Oden, came over the year after Oden left but if iirc he was a beast in Europe, Those were just a few names I remembered from over the years, but If i looked it up, I pretty sure the European guards have better track records then their bigs.

I really hope for the best for Montiejunas but each time i have ever heard a euro being compared to Nowitzki the guys are always bust... aside from Bargani then again i wouldnt want him on my team, haha
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Post#50 » by GrapeApe » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:16 pm

Pau Gasol was compared to Nowitzki. In the list of player I gave I tryed to avoid those that played at American colleges (so no Steve Nash).

Sure there have been more European big man failures. But there are more American big man failures too (Leon Smith? Ike Diogu? ). But that is because big men are at such a premium.

I can not guarantee the DoMo will be a star. But I think he has a good shot and was worth the pick. Granted there are some players that were picked after him that seem to be playing well, Marshon Brooks, Noris Cole, Isaiah Thomas and Houston's own Chandler Parsons. Parsons is the only one that is taller than 6' 6".

Looking at yahoo's ranking of point guards there are four foreigners in the top 25, Nash (went to college in USA and is Canadian), Rubio, Calderon, and Parker. Of the top 25 centers, there is Marc Gasol, Gortat, Bargnani, Pau Gasol, Serge Ibaka, Anderson Varajao and Andrew Bogut (like Nash went to US College).
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Post#51 » by texasholdem » Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:54 pm

Pau Gasol was compared to Nowitzki. In the list of player I gave I tryed to avoid those that played at American colleges (so no Steve Nash).

Of the top 25 centers, there is Marc Gasol, Gortat, Bargnani, Pau Gasol, Serge Ibaka, Anderson Varajao and Andrew Bogut (like Nash went to US College).


Marc Gasol played high school basketball in America so does he fit the total European player description like his brother?
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Post#52 » by Raptor_Claw » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:31 am

dream34 wrote:Donatas had a really good game yesterday. Shot well. His season shooting percentages aren't that great, he seems to be a little inconsistent.

http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Don ... eLogs/2314


Just so you know, the problem with just going by this is that you don't get the feel of the level of the competition. Some times he is playing a decent team, and some others a very awful team.

In all honesty, with the team he is on and especially the Euroleague group he was in, you can't judge a whole lot. Even in VTB League teams are often using the games as practices, because they take those games off and rest players and prepare for a bigger game in Euroleague or Eurocup. Normally VTB is a better league than Eurocup, but if you are playing Prokom, you look at it as a practice game and you play your second tier players against them. The game where he set the Euroleague rebounding record, the other team was playing a bunch of their youth squad players (like high school age level) because several of the men's team players left the team. So it was something like a NCAA team he was playing against, but it appeared to be a "Euroleague" team, if you just saw a game log.

And his team is so awful that making anything of stats on that team is pretty pointless. In all honesty, the thing to do is just to look at how he plays and analyze what he is doing on the court. I don't think his stats from this year have any meaning one way or the other.

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Pau Gasol was compared to Nowitzki. In the list of player I gave I tryed to avoid those that played at American colleges (so no Steve Nash).

Of the top 25 centers, there is Marc Gasol, Gortat, Bargnani, Pau Gasol, Serge Ibaka, Anderson Varajao and Andrew Bogut (like Nash went to US College).


Marc Gasol played high school basketball in America so does he fit the total European player description like his brother?


Sarunas Jasikevicius played high school and college basketball in the USA, and I have never ever heard of him referred to as an American player or product. So no, I don't think Marc Gasol would be considered anything other than a European player.

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