Post-Game Thread 11/19 - Donkey punched by the Jazz

[kinein]

Where do we go from here?

What did you like out there on the floor?

What did you not like?

Its a given that Harden was seriously sick and should not have been playing. Upper respiratory is serious stuff, you can't breathe or get enough oxygen going around to your brain and muscles while engaging in high-intensity anaerobic exercise aka basketball at the NBA level.

what did you think of Sampson?

Did we look as tired as it seemed?

[MaxRider]

why open a new thread after the game? why can't just use the game thread to chat afterward?

[kinein]

why open a new thread after the game? why can't just use the game thread to chat afterward?

Because its a different discussion. Meant to move the conversation forward. And separate the feelings of what happened during the game with - the reality of - final tally of contributions, what went right and wrong - where to go from here etc.

Its also something that more active sports forums do. To better organize threads..... O.o Since I'm pretty worn out from all the losses.

Usually in game threads - are the - hype before game, your looking at history, rivalry, whats the storylines going into it - what were the trends in performance up until the game.

Then 80% of the convo becomes - during the game.

Last 15 % is immediate reactions afterwards.

Now generally speaking - at this point. No one is going to start from page 1 then read to page 8 then reply. Unless your me. HAHA. Post-Games serve a different purpose.. thats why its a Post-Game thread! But if no one posts in these post-game threads. They will naturally stop being made

[MaxRider]

people here don't like to talk after loses

[rocketsballin]

what maxrider aka sir buzzkillington is trying to say is the rockets forum on realgm isnt active enough for post game threads. we usually do our opst game talks in the gamethread

u can still give htis a try. maybe everyone joins in, but i doubt it

[bigbrightfurry]

Looks like Rockets are going full-on tank job. Never had more than 2-3 starters on the floor in the 2nd half.

[tanm10]

think that had more to do with the fact that harden was sick

I think rockets are a all-star and a season of development away from being in the mix in the west

Either they will get one from free agency or get a top 5 pick and develop them.

They have made a commitment to Jlin, Asik and Harden so would be best if they could develop Jlin to feasibly become a jkidd type PG, and develop asiks offense a bit. Harden just needs some support offensively

Chandler Parsons is a seriously good player. People tend to forget this is his second year.

Morris and Jones look like they could develop into solid starter/6th man type players.

I know hes a farkin headcase but they rockets could sure use a big man facilitator like royce. Need to move the farkin ball if u dont have superstar 1on1 players

[Mr. E]

First off, welcome to RealGM, tanm10 and bigbrightfurry! Hope you enjoy your stay here.

I agree with the assessment that we need to remember that this team is a work in progress. I'm not focusing on the W-L so much as I am trying to follow how the players are trending.

Kinein - I fully encourage you to keep starting these threads. I'll try to do a better job to get them noticed by making them sticky threads. You're past few game threads have been greatly appreciated!

Oh, and no matter what any of us may think of these current Rockets, I am sure that we can all agree that we hate Utah.

[MaxRider]

Looks like Rockets are going full-on tank job. Never had more than 2-3 starters on the floor in the 2nd half.

did you know Chandler Parsons is the only player on the team that actually start last season?

[tanm10]

pattersons been with the rockets the longest?

seriously this sort of turnover is unheard of. gotta expect itll take to the allstar break to look remotely like a team

[madbucky]

Personally, I like a separate post-game analysis thread from the in-game thread, because usually the game thread consists of spontaneous, highly emotional, mostly irrational posts (at least in active forums). Stuff like "I can't believe Harden forced up another 3, he sucks" or "Toney Douglas is 4-5 from 3 pt range, I think we found our starting PG". Whereas a post-game thread the following day can actually be rational thoughtful analysis.

[madbucky]

I think Rockets fans need to level set expectations. Before Harden, when it was just Lin, Asik, and company, I think most fans expected a lottery pick. A fun, exciting, young team, but lottery. Then came the Harden trade, and expectations got raised, maybe thinking possible playoffs. Then came the first 2 Harden-sanity games, and fan expectations shot through the roof.

The reality was that Utah was 7 pt favorites over Houston, and that was with a healthy Harden. So without Harden, the result shouldn't be surprising.

I think the coaching staff does not have a good game plan and not using players properly, especially Harden and Lin. Houston is leading the entire league in 3PA, but has the 9th worst 3pt% (31.9%). To me, that's on the coaching staff and tells me that they don't have a real game plan except to jack up 3s.

[MaxRider]

I think Rockets fans need to level set expectations. Before Harden, when it was just Lin, Asik, and company, I think most fans expected a lottery pick. A fun, exciting, young team, but lottery. Then came the Harden trade, and expectations got raised, maybe thinking possible playoffs. Then came the first 2 Harden-sanity games, and fan expectations shot through the roof.

The reality was that Utah was 7 pt favorites over Houston, and that was with a healthy Harden. So without Harden, the result shouldn't be surprising.

I think the coaching staff does not have a good game plan and not using players properly, especially Harden and Lin. Houston is leading the entire league in 3PA, but has the 9th worst 3pt% (31.9%). To me, that's on the coaching staff and tells me that they don't have a real game plan except to jack up 3s.

before Harden trade
my expectation was top 5 in lottery pick
after Harden trade
my expectation was 10-14 lottery pick

have you watch the Rockets play?
do you know what game plan they were running?
basically 3 players spotting up behind the 3pts line (Parsons, Patterson, Lin)
Harden and Asik run pick and roll
after the first two hot games by Harden
everyone is trapping Harden and force him to pass (he's bad at it, look at the turnover number)
they will leave those 3pts shooters open because they can't shoot (do you know other than Morris and Parsons no one is shooting better than 33%?)
they will let Asik get to the basket (50% chance he will miss the layup, especially those easy one)

it's not like they don't want to run other play
there simply isn't any option left
there is no inside post player
Patterson/Asik did few of those per game and they suck at it
the Jazz game is the rare one Patterson actually score in the post
i'm just not so sure whey they don't post Morris up more

[jwise44]

i still expect a pick between 7-11 unless we make another move or t-jones gets pt and becomes a monster......MAYBE WE GET LUCKY AND GET A TOP 3 PICK????? SHABAZZ? LEONARD??

BUT I HATE LOSING TO THE F***ING JAZZ

i hate the mavs spurs and lakers as much, but i can handle losing to them because they are respectable (although, lilojmayo is really making me HATE oj mayo. is that sad? that a poster on this site is making me root against a person?)