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Post#41 » by Nebula1 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 11:25 pm

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BaYBaller wrote:Doesn't matter if Lin or Bev is starting, the offense is still going to look terrible. With the twin towers our offense consists of Dwight post-ups (bad), contested jumpers (bad), and driving into traffic (bad). The only time our offense looked fluid out there was I think two or three times I saw a play called out of a timeout where Dwight drove it off the elbow and then dumped it to Asik for a dunk, but this isn't something you can base an offensive scheme around.

I'm still very skeptical over D-Mo, he hasn't shown me anything in the preseason in terms of improvement. TJones showed some improvement I thought, but I don't think he's ready for heavy minutes. I really want to see Greg Smith in there at PF. If you can't make Greg Smith work at the 4, who is 1000x the offensive player that Asik is, then it pretty much means you have to have a stretch 4 so at least we get some clarity there.

i thought Jones improve too but he was horrible on defense in preseason and his jumper still very inconsistent


That's why we need to get both these cats on the floor at least in limited time. Let them get comfortable to the brighter lights.
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Re: Motiejunas and Jones 

Post#42 » by MaxRider » Fri Nov 8, 2013 11:33 pm

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BaYBaller wrote:Doesn't matter if Lin or Bev is starting, the offense is still going to look terrible. With the twin towers our offense consists of Dwight post-ups (bad), contested jumpers (bad), and driving into traffic (bad). The only time our offense looked fluid out there was I think two or three times I saw a play called out of a timeout where Dwight drove it off the elbow and then dumped it to Asik for a dunk, but this isn't something you can base an offensive scheme around.

I'm still very skeptical over D-Mo, he hasn't shown me anything in the preseason in terms of improvement. TJones showed some improvement I thought, but I don't think he's ready for heavy minutes. I really want to see Greg Smith in there at PF. If you can't make Greg Smith work at the 4, who is 1000x the offensive player that Asik is, then it pretty much means you have to have a stretch 4 so at least we get some clarity there.

i thought Jones improve too but he was horrible on defense in preseason and his jumper still very inconsistent


That's why we need to get both these cats on the floor at least in limited time. Let them get comfortable to the brighter lights.

you improve those team in practice not in the game
if you want to improve that in game might as well play in d-leauge
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Re: Motiejunas and Jones 

Post#43 » by Nebula1 » Sat Nov 9, 2013 12:17 am

There's a massive difference between playing real games versus the Ds or even practice. Both of these guys have already seen the floor in prior action so it makes no sense to not find them spot minutes in such a long season. That's where you find your comfort level. Practice, practice, practice does not equate to playing, playing, playing.
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Post#44 » by MaxRider » Sat Nov 9, 2013 12:39 am

Nebula1 wrote:There's a massive difference between playing real games versus the Ds or even practice. Both of these guys have already seen the floor in prior action so it makes no sense to not find them spot minutes in such a long season. That's where you find your comfort level. Practice, practice, practice does not equate to playing, playing, playing.

team play 5 on 5 during practice
they hired ref to official those games
they can get their experiment there
if they can't even play well in those
no reason to put them in the real game
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Re: Motiejunas and Jones 

Post#45 » by texasholdem » Sat Nov 9, 2013 1:02 am

You know Morey wants them to play.

We gave up a lot to get D-Mo. Mirotic is probably the best player in Europe. We paid Jonny Flynn to do nothing for almost a whole season. Our other first rounder in that draft was a bust (Marcus Morris)

It's also important for TJones to succeed since Royce was a bust too.
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Re: Motiejunas and Jones 

Post#46 » by Nebula1 » Sat Nov 9, 2013 1:22 am

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Nebula1 wrote:There's a massive difference between playing real games versus the Ds or even practice. Both of these guys have already seen the floor in prior action so it makes no sense to not find them spot minutes in such a long season. That's where you find your comfort level. Practice, practice, practice does not equate to playing, playing, playing.

team play 5 on 5 during practice
they hired ref to official those games
they can get their experiment there
if they can't even play well in those
no reason to put them in the real game



Not really true. Practice 5x5 is a step below preseason which is a step below regular season which is a step below postseason.

The thing is, these guys have already seen the floor in previous action but with the addition of Howard at 4 and Casspi, neither guy is getting much of a look.

I think if the Rockets plan on keeping Asik, we'll see D-Mo and Jones traded and the team is currently evaluating the effectiveness of retaining Asik.
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Re: Motiejunas and Jones 

Post#47 » by cold_cowboy » Sat Nov 9, 2013 2:08 am

MaxRider wrote:
Nebula1 wrote:There's a massive difference between playing real games versus the Ds or even practice. Both of these guys have already seen the floor in prior action so it makes no sense to not find them spot minutes in such a long season. That's where you find your comfort level. Practice, practice, practice does not equate to playing, playing, playing.

team play 5 on 5 during practice
they hired ref to official those games
they can get their experiment there
if they can't even play well in those
no reason to put them in the real game

this is such nonsense i can't believe it. you watch the rockets scrimmages now? what the hell are you talking about?
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Re: Motiejunas and Jones 

Post#48 » by MaxRider » Sat Nov 9, 2013 2:34 am

they already show they suck in preseason and you want them to play in regular season?
if they can't even show improvement during practice there is not any good just to play 5-10 min a game in regular season
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Post#49 » by Nebula1 » Sat Nov 9, 2013 4:20 pm

MaxRider wrote:they already show they suck in preseason and you want them to play in regular season?
if they can't even show improvement during practice there is not any good just to play 5-10 min a game in regular season



How do you know how these guys are performing at practice?
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Re: Motiejunas and Jones 

Post#50 » by MaxRider » Sat Nov 9, 2013 5:00 pm

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MaxRider wrote:they already show they suck in preseason and you want them to play in regular season?
if they can't even show improvement during practice there is not any good just to play 5-10 min a game in regular season



How do you know how these guys are performing at practice?

i don't know
if they show they can play mchale will put them on the floor
how do you think motiejunas got into the starting lineup last season?
he still suck that's why eventually the job went to smith
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Re: Motiejunas and Jones 

Post#51 » by Nebula1 » Sat Nov 9, 2013 5:14 pm

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Nebula1 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:they already show they suck in preseason and you want them to play in regular season?
if they can't even show improvement during practice there is not any good just to play 5-10 min a game in regular season



How do you know how these guys are performing at practice?

i don't know
if they show they can play mchale will put them on the floor
how do you think motiejunas got into the starting lineup last season?
he still suck that's why eventually the job went to smith



In other words, you're making stuff up
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Re: Motiejunas and Jones 

Post#52 » by MaxRider » Sat Nov 9, 2013 5:45 pm

i'm not making stuff up
mchale did say it in previous season interview
if he see players improved in practice he will put them in the game
right now he's not going to risk losing a regular season game to develop player
we are in the win mode
and mchale is not popovich

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