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[Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread

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Re: [Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread 

Post#81 » by moofs » Wed Jan 1, 2014 3:42 pm

rocketsballin wrote:rockets are trying to recreate the kobe/pau tandem. makes perfect sense. harden will shoot the ball 50 times and dwight gets one or two shots.

why the **** is dwight setting picks when he doesnt get the ball? he should be picking his nose when they call a pick


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Re: [Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread 

Post#82 » by moofs » Wed Jan 1, 2014 3:45 pm

minimalist1972 wrote:Bet Harden still takes out the team for lap dances and champagne at the club tonight, though.


Now that is an interesting thought..
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Re: [Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread 

Post#83 » by panarama » Wed Jan 1, 2014 4:08 pm

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panarama wrote:Damn...
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Well on to the next game.
But overall we are a still a young team.


What Rockets need is a new coach. McHale just don't cut it. How is giving ball to Harden a play? Do you really expect this will work.

There is no pick whatsoever. Sure, it works for Harden, but what about the other players? Basketball is a 5 person games. You suppose to create and find opening for yourself, not standing around.


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Re: [Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread 

Post#84 » by Nebula1 » Wed Jan 1, 2014 4:57 pm

Pretty **** disappointing

I'm usually on to the next one, but this loss is unacceptable
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Re: [Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread 

Post#85 » by texasholdem » Wed Jan 1, 2014 5:01 pm

Nebula1 wrote:Pretty **** disappointing

I'm usually on to the next one, but this loss is unacceptable


Considering we lost because of Jimmer Fredette, yes I agree.
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Post#86 » by panarama » Thu Jan 2, 2014 1:48 am

"BAD MOVE: For all the offense Harden provided, his lackadaisical approach on defense hampered his team severely AGAIN Tuesday. Harden took several questionable risks and was caught ball-watching too OFTEN, allowing his man to sneak behind him for easy baskets on back-door cuts."

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Re: [Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread 

Post#87 » by spolgar » Thu Jan 2, 2014 2:14 am

As much as the loss is on our players, when Cousins is ready to play he is the real deal.
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Post#88 » by Hodges4Three » Thu Jan 2, 2014 6:21 am

richboy wrote:Of course Dwight doesn't want to run PNR. He might get 1 shot a game out of a PNR play now. All the players run PNR really just to get themselves a shot.

Cousins is not the best center in the league. The best center in the league doesn't have his team 10-20. He gets 6 shots more a game than Dwight. Cousins is good but he really just racking up stats on a team with nobody else.

This game was annoying because of the terrible perimeter defense again. Harden in the first half was a joke defensively. They ran so many Iso plays that It just got flat out boring. Apparently this team can't walk and chew gum at the same time. I don't see why its so hard when Harden plays to still go inside to Dwight more than a few times a quarter.


Dwight doesn't want to PnR because he thinks he's a post player.

Harden looks for his shot off the PnR but Lin is a very willing passer. The success of the Lin + Chandler PnR was one of the biggest factors during Linsanity.

I've seen Lin + Howard PnRs end in easy buckets for Dwight on a few occasions. Problem is Rockets rarely ever run it. They always try to feed Dwight in the post instead.
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Re: [Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread 

Post#89 » by kinein » Thu Jan 2, 2014 6:48 am

Has anyone else noticed how we aren't pushing the pace as much as last year? Between JLin throwing on the afterburners and Harden slicing in eurostepping, beard in peak performance and all ~ I thought last years team ran others into the ground by 1/2 time most of the time ( though an issue for the Rockets is still conditioning and physical development of player bodies ). We tend to suffer a higher chance of losing in a back2back or a series of back2backs when compared to other teams that have had a few more years to gel and or work on it (in the gym).

Pacers and Heat are a great example.
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Re: [Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread 

Post#90 » by KungFuJoe » Thu Jan 2, 2014 7:54 pm

I finally got to see the Sac game.

Man it's really really tough to gauge Harden's "worth" to a team. The guy can flat out score. On anyone, from anywhere, at anytime.

But, he forces the issue so much. A few of his shots were of the "just throw it up and hope to get fouled" that are just as bad as a turnover because the rest of the team ends up standing around watching him while the other team gets a fast break going the other way and Harden stays back to complain.

And his defense. My god...it's not getting better...at all. Hard to say it's getting worse because he is already so horrible. You can tell that when he doesn't play defense, the other guys don't put as much effort. He was getting burned by Thornton and then he got alley oop dunked on and the rest of the team was just so lack luster. Then there was a great sequence where TJones got a great block, then Lin got a steal and assist to Jones, then Parsons was on the floor and going for steals.

Good defense is CONTAGIOUS. When your leader is out there playing hard, it makes everyone else want to play just as a hard. Howard SHOULD be that leader that sets the tone but Harden seems to refuse to want to let him.

And he just completely "phases" out people in the end. Come fourth quarter crunch time...Harden absolutely refuses to pass the ball unless he's dribbled it down to 3 seconds left on the clock and he has no open look. In the last 2 minutes of the game, he didn't pass the ball ONCE (that I can recall).

Honestly...if you asked me RIGHT NOW...I would say this team would be better if they replaced Harden with a solid 15/5 guy who plays tough D and knows how to run some plays. Howard, Parsons and Lin could pick up the scoring slack, without the ball hogging and lack of D.
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Post#91 » by Klazart » Thu Jan 2, 2014 8:18 pm

Harden is slowly turning into Melo.
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Post#92 » by rocketsballin » Fri Jan 3, 2014 12:14 am

richboy wrote:Of course Dwight doesn't want to run PNR. He might get 1 shot a game out of a PNR play now. All the players run PNR really just to get themselves a shot.

Cousins is not the best center in the league. The best center in the league doesn't have his team 10-20. He gets 6 shots more a game than Dwight. Cousins is good but he really just racking up stats on a team with nobody else.

This game was annoying because of the terrible perimeter defense again. Harden in the first half was a joke defensively. They ran so many Iso plays that It just got flat out boring. Apparently this team can't walk and chew gum at the same time. I don't see why its so hard when Harden plays to still go inside to Dwight more than a few times a quarter.

dwight can defintely take back the best center in the league title, really whenever the **** he wants. but he's not playing like it, his fault and the teams fault.

dmc has been doing it the whole season, dwight does it in spurts. that doesnt count. dmc is the best center in the league. if rockets keep this bs up, dwight cant be the best center in the league.

he really really needs to stop setting picks. i hate that. it was terrible in the last game at the end, dwight ran like 3-5 picks every play. it was sickening :x

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players only meeting? did they talk about giving dwight the **** ball? how hard can it **** be? all u gotta do is pass him the ball. I COULD **** DO THAT IN MY **** SLEEP! WHY CANT THESE PRO BALLERS DO IT? just pass the ball to dwight, simple. 2+2=4. abc 123 basic **** 101 baksetball.


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Re: [Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread 

Post#93 » by victorhe » Fri Jan 3, 2014 2:15 am

Somebody needs to tell Harden to play team basketball. If Mchale can't do it, then Dwight or someone else needs to do it. Rockets will not go beyond the first round of playoff if Harden keeps playing this selfish ball, and we already have so many talents in this team. I don't know how we can waste a group of talents like that. Dwight might leave Houston if the team is not going anywhere. Even more players might leave who knows.
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Re: [Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread 

Post#94 » by NamelessHero » Fri Jan 3, 2014 4:49 am

KungFuJoe wrote:I finally got to see the Sac game.

Man it's really really tough to gauge Harden's "worth" to a team.





Honestly...if you asked me RIGHT NOW...I would say this team would be better if they replaced Harden with a solid 15/5 guy who plays tough D and knows how to run some plays. Howard, Parsons and Lin could pick up the scoring slack, without the ball hogging and lack of D.


technically your right rocks would be better off in terms of winss loss ratio but his marketing or pr or out of court play value is immense and eventhough overall he sucks on the court he will attract the 3rd star plus he already attracted howard and that is what makes him our best player...boxscore stats are outdated i bet he has open hands from morey to iso in order to create kobelike media superstar picture...perhaps even morey himself prescribed for him to play this way

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Re: [Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread 

Post#95 » by KungFuJoe » Fri Jan 3, 2014 5:35 am

NamelessHero wrote:
KungFuJoe wrote:I finally got to see the Sac game.

Man it's really really tough to gauge Harden's "worth" to a team.





Honestly...if you asked me RIGHT NOW...I would say this team would be better if they replaced Harden with a solid 15/5 guy who plays tough D and knows how to run some plays. Howard, Parsons and Lin could pick up the scoring slack, without the ball hogging and lack of D.


technically your right rocks would be better off in terms of winss loss ratio but his marketing or pr or out of court play value is immense and eventhough overall he sucks on the court he will attract the 3rd star plus he already attracted howard and that is what makes him our best player...boxscore stats are outdated i bet he has open hands from morey to iso in order to create kobelike media superstar picture...perhaps even morey himself prescribed for him to play this way

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I hear what you're saying, but I dunno. Harden got away with a lot last year because it was his first time as "the man" and he put up crazy offensive numbers after being a super sub for OKC. But, this year...he's getting exposed as a flopping chucker who plays no D. If you're a superstar on some other team and you're looking for a team to play with...would you REALLY want to come play alongside Harden?

I really really wonder how much Howard actually likes playing with Harden. I know if I was Howard, I would hate Harden's guts. As much crap as Howard gets for being a bit clumsy on offense, this guy busts his ass on defense. It's gotta be frustrating for him to see Harden not give a crap on defense and THEN not even pass him the ball on offense.
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Re: [Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread 

Post#96 » by texasholdem » Fri Jan 3, 2014 11:23 am

Howard had his best game when Harden was injured. Kinda like Lin last year.
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Post#97 » by adrenaLINe » Fri Jan 3, 2014 2:52 pm

rocketsballin wrote:
richboy wrote:Of course Dwight doesn't want to run PNR. He might get 1 shot a game out of a PNR play now. All the players run PNR really just to get themselves a shot.

Cousins is not the best center in the league. The best center in the league doesn't have his team 10-20. He gets 6 shots more a game than Dwight. Cousins is good but he really just racking up stats on a team with nobody else.

This game was annoying because of the terrible perimeter defense again. Harden in the first half was a joke defensively. They ran so many Iso plays that It just got flat out boring. Apparently this team can't walk and chew gum at the same time. I don't see why its so hard when Harden plays to still go inside to Dwight more than a few times a quarter.

dwight can defintely take back the best center in the league title, really whenever the **** he wants. but he's not playing like it, his fault and the teams fault.

dmc has been doing it the whole season, dwight does it in spurts. that doesnt count. dmc is the best center in the league. if rockets keep this bs up, dwight cant be the best center in the league.

he really really needs to stop setting picks. i hate that. it was terrible in the last game at the end, dwight ran like 3-5 picks every play. it was sickening :x

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players only meeting? did they talk about giving dwight the **** ball? how hard can it **** be? all u gotta do is pass him the ball. I COULD **** DO THAT IN MY **** SLEEP! WHY CANT THESE PRO BALLERS DO IT? just pass the ball to dwight, simple. 2+2=4. abc 123 basic **** 101 baksetball.


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It depends on the match up for Dwight and if he can move his man out of the way... then you keep feeding him the ball

we have seen him play for 9 years... and its always been the case when he comes up against a center Dwight cant move he has a subpar game

in this game they should have been dumping him the ball...

and passing him the ball on the PnR

what should be frustrating is in the OKC game they kept feeding Dwight the ball when he couldnt move Ibaka..

instead of doing PnRs and forcing Ibaka to move his feet to defend Dwight

while in this game... they should have been feeding Dwight the ball... anywhere he was
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Re: [Game 34] Rockets vs Kings - 12/31 Game Thread 

Post#98 » by moofs » Fri Jan 3, 2014 8:17 pm

rocketsballin wrote:
richboy wrote:Cousins is not the best center in the league. The best center in the league doesn't have his team 10-20. He gets 6 shots more a game than Dwight. Cousins is good but he really just racking up stats on a team with nobody else.

dwight can defintely take back the best center in the league title, really whenever the **** he wants. but he's not playing like it, his fault and the teams fault.

dmc has been doing it the whole season, dwight does it in spurts. that doesnt count. dmc is the best center in the league. if rockets keep this bs up, dwight cant be the best center in the league.

players only meeting? did they talk about giving dwight the **** ball? how hard can it **** be? all u gotta do is pass him the ball. I COULD **** DO THAT IN MY **** SLEEP! WHY CANT THESE PRO BALLERS DO IT? just pass the ball to dwight, simple. 2+2=4. abc 123 basic **** 101 baksetball.


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NAME               MIN      WP48      WP
Drummond, Andre      1074      .308      6.9
Jordan, DeAndre         1200      .293      7.3
Bogut, Andrew         901      .268      5.0
Noah, Joakim         970      .225      4.5
Varejao, Anderson      939      .217      4.2
Howard, Dwight         1149      .197      4.7
Lopez, Robin         1006      .191      4.0
Hibbert, Roy         940      .160      3.1
Cousins, DeMarcus      954      .156      3.1


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