Les Alexander on Sterling & Wants Clippers to be Free Agents

[inquisitive]

Les...a man with few words...but when he speaks....

[ChokeFasncists]

This whole things reeks of NBA PC'ness. Everyone with a half a brain knew what Sterling was like long before these recordings came out. Players talked about it, the press talked about it..hell even the casual fan who has watched the league in the past few years has heard something about Sterling being a racist SOB.

Why all the the sudden did people come out of the woodwork wanting his head on a stake? Where was the public outcry when he brought his "girlfriends" into the locker room to check out his players? Where was the public outcry when he was taken to court umpteen times some of which was for racist practices?


It reminds of the NBA's campaign to end the use of the word ****. At the time..there were exactly 0 openly gay players in the league...yet they still pushed it like they were paragons of virtue. Meanwhile, Lin makes a splash in NYC and proceeds to be the butt of countless number of racist and offensive stuff, some even from his own teammates (anyone remember Melo doing that stupid effing bow he did in front of Lin after Lin hit the winning in 3 in Toronto?) And what was the NBA's response to all THAT racist stuff....NOTHING.

I'm all for Sterling getting punished for being a racist SOB..but people need to stop acting surprised that 1. Sterling is a racist...and 2. Racism is still a problem in the league/society.

I guess with the new commish it's just a good opportunity to get rid of him once and for all. Also, perhaps society has changed, especially with Obama being the president.

I wouldn't be condemning Melo but there was some racist stuff. Some was taken care of like the ESPN "Chink in the armor" comment but some like SAS, DimWitlock or CFasncists are at large. I think that specific Melo incident should be viewed as ambiguous. Some players/coaches/execs disrespect Lin based on his skin color, that's for sure.

[kam_soluusar]

I am actually a person who has been racially vilified for being white. I used to play pickup ball with a bunch of fillipinos. They stopped asking me to play, because I was "too tall, to good." This isn't me blowing smoke up my own arse, this is just what happened. I have this happen a number of times against Asian players. I had some try to pick a fight with me, after deliberately tripping me over, and then kicking me in the legs. Then when I squared up to confront the culprit, their girlfriends were telling me to pick on someone my own size.

Racism is sadly a part of everyday life, it's all down to how you as a person deal with it.

[ChokeFasncists]

They stopped asking me to play, because I was "too tall, too good."

Doesn't sound like racism to me!

If they don't play with you simply because of your skin color it's a different story.

[cw3k]

They stopped asking me to play, because I was "too tall, too good."

Doesn't sound like racism to me!

If they don't play with you simply because of your skin color it's a different story.

What if they just don't like you and you are black?

Sterling's comment and action is racist. But a lot of so call "racist" is really not.

[Nebula1]

I'm glad he's out, even if he gets a billion for the team and what Les did was very cool, considering owners had to step up.

[90sAllDecade]

And for Lin fans, no one wants to see Asians deal with racism either.

Houston is one of the most diverse cities in the country and the team reflects that, but they were signed for their talent so I think it was another sign of Les' acceptance and character.

Lin is a great person and talented, although I was unhappy with his play getting out of control at times, I support him because he's a Rocket and a hard worker.

That being said, I'd like him and McHale to be more conservative when we have a lead. (and Harden to improve his defense, the team to improve our three point shooting and Parsons to be a factor on both ends in the second half...)

[texasholdem]

I am actually a person who has been racially vilified for being white. I used to play pickup ball with a bunch of fillipinos. They stopped asking me to play, because I was "too tall, to good." This isn't me blowing smoke up my own arse, this is just what happened. I have this happen a number of times against Asian players. I had some try to pick a fight with me, after deliberately tripping me over, and then kicking me in the legs. Then when I squared up to confront the culprit, their girlfriends were telling me to pick on someone my own size.

Racism is sadly a part of everyday life, it's all down to how you as a person deal with it.

Did they call you whitey or something? What made the vilification racial? Not doubting the truth of your story just curious about the details. Really kam, were you just dunking on them on every play and blocking all their shots? Was it like Kramer taking karate classes with children?

[moofs]

One of the most annoying things about discussing race in the US is that a lot of people are CONVINCED that there's no racism against Asians. They love to try to deflect by saying "oh it was only a joke" or "I have a friend that's asian and he totally doesn't care at all" or my personal favorite "it's not my fault if you feel offended by my words"

For some odd reason, it's completely acceptable for people to mock/make fun/offend Asians and anyone that looks like they could be Middle Eastern/South Asian without the same kind of fear of reprisal that comes with saying something about someone that's black.

The fact that I have to respond the way I do..sorta indicates that there are some people on this board that are in that camp.

Edit: Almost forgot.."You're being too sensitive"

FWIW, I'm Asian. But I also have a sense of humor. For example, I was not all offended by the Stephen Colbert kerfuffle from last month. Not saying racism against Asians doesn't exist because I know first hand that it does. I also know that Asians can be extremely racist themselves. Don't know how Melo feels about Jeremy so I'll take your word for it.

I am actually a person who has been racially vilified for being white.
Racism is sadly a part of everyday life, it's all down to how you as a person deal with it.

No doubt. Just so's we're clear, there's plenty of racism/sexism against white males, too. It's not just Kam's case, I've also had more than my fair share of it levied against me, but it's more than that.
While I'd rather not go into the topic too much because it REALLY has no place on this forum, racism can come from anyone and/or any source and be applied to anyone regardless of either party's race.

Insofar as Sterling goes. I've been more than clear about my loathing of him for years, for the exact reason he's finally being publicly scorned.

I don't like what's going on, though.
My ideal resolution toward Mr. Sterling would have been for fans and players alike to boycott his loathsome ass years ago when it was first made clear that he was a virulent, oppressive, satanic excuse for a biped. Instead, we just waited for someone else to get an excuse to take care of it for us, while quite likely violating property and legal rights in the process. Oh, and he'll make hundreds of millions, if not a billion from this fiasco.
Oh yeah, CP, Doc Rivers, and Griffin are all FINE with working for him so long as his antics can be contained in a closet and they're getting millions for it. Same with Clippers ticket holders being fine with supporting him financially, so long as he's offering a cheaper product than the Lakers to compensate for the fact that it's Donald Sterling and the Clippers and/or so long as the Clippers are winning. Where is the outrage for the illegal wiretapping and public publication of a private conversation? Where is the outrage for Sterling cheating on his wife with a whore? Freaking hypocrisy all over the place.

Phyrric victory, at best. I feel robbed of seeing him properly waylaid.

Edit:
This is the way it always should have happened, but without the pathetic plea to Silver.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... -In-Game-5

[ChokeFasncists]

Truly, lowly criminal vs lowly criminal, sad.

[Nebula1]

Just so we're all clear, there is only the human race with different skin tones.

[ChokeFasncists]

^ try telling that to the Fasncists mob......

Anyways, looks like Sterling isn't going way easily:

Stiviano ‘was an animal’ in bed says Sterling
http://nypost.com/2014/05/14/sterling-s ... al-in-bed/

“You can’t force somebody to sell property in America. Well I’m a lawyer, that’s my opinion,” the combative 81-year-old said, vowing to fight the NBA’s effort to force him to sell the franchise.

“‘If you talk to a girl and you say something wrong … So they should take away for life your team because you said the wrong thing to a girl? I’m not gonna let anybody take over my team.”

“My lawyer is telling me there’s not a chance in the world that anybody can make you sell your team and if they ever could it would take 20 years of litigation,” he said.

[inquisitive]

And for Lin fans, no one wants to see Asians deal with racism either.

Houston is one of the most diverse cities in the country and the team reflects that, but they were signed for their talent so I think it was another sign of Les' acceptance and character.

Lin is a great person and talented, although I was unhappy with his play getting out of control at times, I support him because he's a Rocket and a hard worker.

That being said, I'd like him and McHale to be more conservative when we have a lead. (and Harden to improve his defense, the team to improve our three point shooting and Parsons to be a factor on both ends in the second half...)

While Houston is one of the most diverse cities, it is still pretty socially segregated. When you go out to bars and such, usually Asians sit together, blacks together, etc.. though they all might be in the same bar.

[inquisitive]

I wouldnt mind seeing cp3 become a free agent asap with Sterling fighting the sale of his team which will be in litigation for a few more yrs.

[ChokeFasncists]

Looks like it's all over now, finally:

Donald Sterling to drop lawsuit, agree to Clippers sale
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... r/9980295/

So long Sterling! It's been a roller-coaster: sucking in LA under the shadow of the Lakers, taking over as the best team in LA, then fall from grace with this.

Long Island man who allegedly punched V. Stiviano in the face, hurled N-word arrested by NYPD

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc ... -1.1815322

I guess CP3 isn't coming as a free agent any time soon. One can only hope someone in the NBA or the Rockets organization take a look at the CFasncistic site.

Well, anyways, so Seattle Clippers?