Some of our players have 'historically bad' playoff numbers

Tritodian · Post #1 » by **Tritodian** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:42 am

http://postimg.org/image/5fbftu3n5/

Trevor Ariza? r u serious?

6.6 PPG on 25.5 FG% and 14.3 3P%. 31.3 TS%. Wow.
Also, his PER is 2.0. I'm not kidding.
Who has 2.0 PER? and 63 ORtg?

Patrick Beverly not much better.

5.8 PPG on 27.0% FG% and 21.4 3p%. 36.6 TS% and 5.3 PER.
Smh.

Just go through one by one. Brewer, Terry and Josh Smith were all equally useless and detrimental.

I know Harden hasn't been always great in this series and GSW's defense is suffocatingly good, so I want to cut them a little bit of slack, as I want to do the same to Harden. But these are historically bad numbers. It goes beyond GSW's defense. It means our role players missed a lot of open shots and easy chances. It's a miracle we even managed to eke out a single win against them.

Although Harden's numbers are down compared to the regular season, he's been by far the best player on this team against GSW. If I have to assign the grades, I would give Harden a B.

Dwight, Beasley and D-mo a C.

Rest of the guys? D or F.

As others have already suggested,

BLOW IT UP.

Zubby · Post #2 » by **Zubby** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:07 pm

Watching Ariza in that series was horrible there was a mistake anytime he was near the ball. Can't remember the last time I saw a pro play that badly.

K_chile22 · Post #3 » by **K_chile22** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:49 pm

I've always been hard on Dwight but it's really hard to be effective inside (same goes for Harden) when the other team has 0 respect for your shooters and cheat off them the whole game

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MaxRider · Post #4 » by **MaxRider** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:56 pm

Tritodian wrote:Although Harden's numbers are down compared to the regular season, he's been by far the best player on this team against GSW. If I have to assign the grades, I would give Harden a B.

Dwight, Beasley and D-mo a C.

Rest of the guys? D or F.

As others have already suggested,

BLOW IT UP.

you are so generous
i would give Harden a C
there are lot of turnover he can avoid if he is more careful
some of those drop passes are lower than usual
big men is going to have trouble to reach down to get the ball while running pick and roll
i have no idea what kind of defense he was trying on game 5
why double team? is it coaching? or just him decided to double team everyone to make him look like he is playing defense over standing doing nothing?
DMo a C too, he rush a lot of his post move

GSW has Splash Brothers
we have Brick Brothers in Ariza and Brewer
i'm giving them D

Beverley play the hardest with most heart
i would give him B-

inconsistent rotation min really hurt this team
20+ years watching Rockets
first time i see the coach just randomly throwing stuff out there
playing defense like it is preseason game
this is GSW, the best shooting team in NBA history
and your defensive assignment is let them shoot the 3?
yes normally you won't guard players 30 ft outside
but that rule don't apply to Curry and Thompson
do they watch film?
maybe the team is playing Angry Bird 2 on the iPad
that explain why all those 3pts shot missed

moofs · Post #5 » by **moofs** » Sun May 1, 2016 9:29 pm

Very interesting question:

http://www.red94.net/what-went-wrong-for-the-houston-rockets-in-2016-part-1/16367/

And maybe even more interestingly for me, how is this group such a paradox? The Rockets are a collection of offensively limited role players many of whom are highly regarded as individual defenders. Yet they had one of the worst defenses and one of the best offenses in the league this year.

pr0wler · Post #6 » by **pr0wler** » Mon May 2, 2016 11:12 am

Dwight isn't that amazing of a defender anymore. He always tries to block shots from the weakside, which rarely works, leaving his man wide open for the offensive rebound. Saw that numerous times this year.

Ariza is no longer an elite defender. He's been living off his reputation but really I see a mediocre defensive SF who happens to be good at intercepting passes.

Our PF rotation was a mess defensively, especially with guys like Terrence Jones getting a bulk of minutes during the first half of the year. D-Mo wasn't great on defense this season either since he was in and out of the lineup so much and still recovering from the back injury.

MaxRider · Post #7 » by **MaxRider** » Mon May 2, 2016 3:58 pm

pr0wler wrote:Dwight isn't that amazing of a defender anymore. He always tries to block shots from the weakside, which rarely works, leaving his man wide open for the offensive rebound. Saw that numerous times this year.

Ariza is no longer an elite defender. He's been living off his reputation but really I see a mediocre defensive SF who happens to be good at intercepting passes.

Our PF rotation was a mess defensively, especially with guys like Terrence Jones getting a bulk of minutes during the first half of the year. D-Mo wasn't great on defense this season either since he was in and out of the lineup so much and still recovering from the back injury.

I been saying that about Howard 2 season ago.

Ariza is still good defender. Problem I see is laziness. He can play good defense for 21 seconds and then give up the last 3 seconds.
He also doesn't run back for transition defense. Actually no one in our team do. Beverley? He's too busy crashing offensive board.

JBB got to be the worst coach I see for rotation min.
Why start DMo whe you only play him less than 20 mpg?
I don't know why he sit Smith or Beasley down when they are hot.
What? You think they are tired? They only played like 6 min.

Post #8 » by **TMU** » Tue May 3, 2016 5:25 pm

In Ariza's and Beverly's defense, I think it's hard to be motivated on the defensive end for all 24 seconds when they are the only ones playing defense and then get yelled at or stared down by Harden when all the ruckus happens. Like when Harden doesn't switch off of those pick-n-rolls or acts like a traffic cone on the transition.

MaxRider · Post #9 » by **MaxRider** » Tue May 3, 2016 5:37 pm

TMU wrote:In Ariza's and Beverly's defense, I think it's hard to be motivated on the defensive end for all 24 seconds when they are the only ones playing defense and then get yelled at or stared down by Harden when all the ruckus happens. Like when Harden doesn't switch off of those pick-n-rolls or acts like a traffic cone on the transition.

I'm not talking on switches. I'm talking when Ariza is chasing Thompson through screens. Lot of time he just gave up at the end and let Thompson get open and shoot. And no, Ariza is not caught in screen, he just stop going after Thompson. Defense need to get better, the coach need to teach them when there is screen coming, the other guy has to switch to the runner. Spurs did a lot against GSW.

K_chile22 · Post #10 » by **K_chile22** » Tue May 3, 2016 5:40 pm

Ariza would act like Green was holding him on the screen to get a call instead of getting through the screen

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TKainZero · Post #11 » by **TKainZero** » Thu May 12, 2016 5:33 pm

Zubby wrote:Watching Ariza in that series was horrible there was a mistake anytime he was near the ball. Can't remember the last time I saw a pro play that badly.

Is ariza done?
What happen? Is it just mental? Houston was a dysfunctional mess this year. I'm not sure I am willing to write off anyone from that team based on this year.