2016/2017 Depth Chart (work in progress)

Post #21 » by **Mr. E** » Thu Jul 7, 2016 8:41 pm

According to Feigen the Rockets will not be picking up the rest of Andrew Goudelock's contract after August 1st.

K_chile22 · Post #22 » by **K_chile22** » Thu Jul 7, 2016 9:06 pm

MaxRider wrote:
jwise44 wrote:Bev/Gordon (or Gordon/bev)
Harden/Gordon/kj
Ariza/dekker (hopefully brewer traded for something cause dekker is ready)
Anderson/d-mo/harrell
D-mo/nene/Capella/onuaku

This roster is a mess and I have no clue how to make it work...I'm probably overrating some of our youth, but I think Capela and harrel have earned their minutes for next season....but of course signing 3 injury ridden players means they will likely see minutes

Hoping a trade comes from all this but I don't know who we would target or what we could afford

G: Harden/Gordon/Brewer/McDaniels
G: Beverley/Goudelock
F: Ariza/Beasley/Dekker
F: Anderson/DMo/Harrell
C: Capela/Nene/Onuaku

I can see Morey trading Brewer/McDaniels away for a PG

It would probably cost KJ just to get someone to take Brewer for nothinh, it would be wizardry to get a decent player back

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K_chile22 · Post #23 » by **K_chile22** » Thu Jul 7, 2016 9:08 pm

Mr. E wrote:According to Feigen the Rockets will not be picking up the rest of Andrew Goudelock's contract after August 1st.

This pretty much seals the deal. The Rockets are going to do something with their cap space. I'm hoping they find someone to take Brewer so they can get around $15 in cap and offer that as starting salary to Crabbe with the 4.5% raises for 4 years

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MaxRider · Post #24 » by **MaxRider** » Thu Jul 7, 2016 9:50 pm

Mr. E wrote:According to Feigen the Rockets will not be picking up the rest of Andrew Goudelock's contract after August 1st.

how much cap space do we have now?
just sign Jack or Brooks already

K_chile22 · Post #25 » by **K_chile22** » Thu Jul 7, 2016 9:58 pm

MaxRider wrote:
Mr. E wrote:According to Feigen the Rockets will not be picking up the rest of Andrew Goudelock's contract after August 1st.

how much cap space do we have now?
just sign Jack or Brooks already

A little over ten I believe now that Goudelock is off the books

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texasholdem · Post #26 » by **texasholdem** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 2:05 am

K_chile22 wrote:
Mr. E wrote:According to Feigen the Rockets will not be picking up the rest of Andrew Goudelock's contract after August 1st.

This pretty much seals the deal. The Rockets are going to do something with their cap space. I'm hoping they find someone to take Brewer so they can get around $15 in cap and offer that as starting salary to Crabbe with the 4.5% raises for 4 years

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Wow what has crabbe done to earn that much? And you were complaining about Tyson Chandler making 13/13/13? At least he is still a rim protector and pick and roll finisher, something we still need.

K_chile22 · Post #27 » by **K_chile22** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 2:18 am

texasholdem wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
Mr. E wrote:According to Feigen the Rockets will not be picking up the rest of Andrew Goudelock's contract after August 1st.

This pretty much seals the deal. The Rockets are going to do something with their cap space. I'm hoping they find someone to take Brewer so they can get around $15 in cap and offer that as starting salary to Crabbe with the 4.5% raises for 4 years

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Wow what has crabbe done to earn that much? And you were complaining about Tyson Chandler making 13/13/13? At least he is still a rim protector and pick and roll finisher, something we still need.

Crabbe is young and will get better. That's what young wings who can shoot with defensive potential get in this market. Chandler is falling way off. Centers aren't getting paid much in this market, except for Mozgov (lol). And we have a player who according to every damn measurement out there is better at both of those games under contract for 2 mil. Do you have a soft spot for washed up players? Lol

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K_chile22 · Post #28 » by **K_chile22** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 3:29 am

Crabbe ended up getting more than I said to offer btw. With bonus' it's worth over 83 for four years with a player option.

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texasholdem · Post #29 » by **texasholdem** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 4:29 am

K_chile22 wrote:Crabbe ended up getting more than I said to offer btw. With bonus' it's worth over 83 for four years with a player option.

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Between crabbe and Tyler Johnson I don't think the nets is a front office you want to emulate.

K_chile22 · Post #30 » by **K_chile22** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 4:55 am

texasholdem wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:Crabbe ended up getting more than I said to offer btw. With bonus' it's worth over 83 for four years with a player option.

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Between crabbe and Tyler Johnson I don't think the nets is a front office you want to emulate.

There are several places Tyler Johnson could've gotten that exact deal. He's good. Better than Jose Calderon even

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texasholdem · Post #31 » by **texasholdem** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 5:17 am

We obviously have different philosophies. I'm not a big fan of the anderson and Gordon deals but at least I can say they've earned that money based on their play not their potential. I'd rather spend 130m on two proven starters than two bench players just because they are under 25.

K_chile22 · Post #32 » by **K_chile22** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 5:19 am

So you'd be Billy King. Cool

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zapatasblood · Post #33 » by **zapatasblood** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 2:32 pm

texasholdem wrote:We obviously have different philosophies. I'm not a big fan of the anderson and Gordon deals but at least I can say they've earned that money based on their play not their potential. I'd rather spend 130m on two proven starters than two bench players just because they are under 25.

Unfortunately in today's NBA it does not work like that. Today's NBA players with potential get big dollars and looks bigger because the jump in cap space.

texasholdem · Post #34 » by **texasholdem** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 2:38 pm

K_chile22 wrote:So you'd be Billy King. Cool

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And you'd be David Kahn?

K_chile22 · Post #35 » by **K_chile22** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 3:23 pm

texasholdem wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:So you'd be Billy King. Cool

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And you'd be David Kahn?

David Kahn the guy who's known for deals like throwing money at a proven vet like JJ Barrea? Nah

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Post #36 » by **Mr. E** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 3:28 pm

When NBA fans start throwing around names like Billy King & David Zahn then things are getting a bit too tense for my taste.

I feel like the sheriff trying to talk down the Wyatt's & Clanton's at the OK Corral with those kind of GM names flying around! :lol:

jetlife_ · Post #37 » by **jetlife_** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:18 am

Letting Goudelock go for nothing is such a mistake.

The guy broke the record for most 3s in a game in Euroleague history last year and he's making peanuts under the new cap.

Is that extra $1m really going to make a difference?

This is going to go down with all of the other half a dozen players that Morey throws in the trash and then go on to have solid seasons.

texasholdem · Post #38 » by **texasholdem** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:22 am

jetlife_ wrote:Letting Goudelock go for nothing is such a mistake.

The guy broke the record for most 3s in a game in Euroleague history last year and he's making peanuts under the new cap.

Is that extra $1m really going to make a difference?

This is going to go down with all of the other half a dozen players that Morey throws in the trash and then go on to have solid seasons.

Probably had to let him go so harden can get his raise. I think he just wanted to make more money than JJ Watt

jetlife_ · Post #39 » by **jetlife_** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:35 pm

texasholdem wrote:
jetlife_ wrote:Letting Goudelock go for nothing is such a mistake.

The guy broke the record for most 3s in a game in Euroleague history last year and he's making peanuts under the new cap.

Is that extra $1m really going to make a difference?

This is going to go down with all of the other half a dozen players that Morey throws in the trash and then go on to have solid seasons.

Probably had to let him go so harden can get his raise. I think he just wanted to make more money than JJ Watt

1. We could've done that deal at any time.

2. We could've cleared $1 million in space from a position we have more depth.

3. We now have absolutely no depth at PG and still lack shooters.

I just don't see the sense in giving your backup PG away, when he makes what amounts to a minimum contract with the current cap and is potentially one of the best shooters on your team. Especially considering the style of coach we have.

texasholdem · Post #40 » by **texasholdem** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:24 pm

jetlife_ wrote:
texasholdem wrote:
jetlife_ wrote:Letting Goudelock go for nothing is such a mistake.

The guy broke the record for most 3s in a game in Euroleague history last year and he's making peanuts under the new cap.

Is that extra $1m really going to make a difference?

This is going to go down with all of the other half a dozen players that Morey throws in the trash and then go on to have solid seasons.

Probably had to let him go so harden can get his raise. I think he just wanted to make more money than JJ Watt

1. We could've done that deal at any time.

2. We could've cleared $1 million in space from a position we have more depth.

3. We now have absolutely no depth at PG and still lack shooters.

I just don't see the sense in giving your backup PG away, when he makes what amounts to a minimum contract with the current cap and is potentially one of the best shooters on your team. Especially considering the style of coach we have.

Not saying I agreed with the decision. Maybe they really like Payton.