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Post#1 » by blueandgold » Thu Jun 3, 2010 7:24 pm

No secret we need a Point Guard. What would it take to trade for Brooks (we have Ford from Texas) and we would maybe deal the #10 pick. What are your needs/wants?
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Post#2 » by bubba » Thu Jun 3, 2010 7:54 pm

definitely not ford. the only player i could see us needing is granger. how about granger and #10 for brooks and #14? haha
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Post#3 » by MaxRider » Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:03 pm

bubba wrote:definitely not ford. the only player i could see us needing is granger. how about granger and #10 for brooks and #14? haha

salary don't match
we will sign lowry to 12milions contract and trade him to pacers along with #14 pick for Granger and #10 pick
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Post#4 » by bubba » Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:15 pm

MaxRider wrote:
bubba wrote:definitely not ford. the only player i could see us needing is granger. how about granger and #10 for brooks and #14? haha

salary don't match
we will sign lowry to 12milions contract and trade him to pacers along with #14 pick for Granger and #10 pick

yeah dats cool
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Post#5 » by red96 » Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:36 pm

Pacers adding Brooks while losing Granger is a lateral move. And I'm not fond of many Pacer players besides Granger. Who beside Granger would we use as a contributing starter? And I dont see what we'd do with Bud, Ariza, and Battier if we got Granger. I think 2 of those guys would have to go. I think HOU and INDY are just bad trade partners If INDY wants Brooks.
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Post#6 » by MaxRider » Thu Jun 3, 2010 9:28 pm

red96 wrote:Pacers adding Brooks while losing Granger is a lateral move. And I'm not fond of many Pacer players besides Granger. Who beside Granger would we use as a contributing starter? And I dont see what we'd do with Bud, Ariza, and Battier if we got Granger. I think 2 of those guys would have to go. I think HOU and INDY are just bad trade partners If INDY wants Brooks.


start Granger at PF
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Post#7 » by aznkillabeezZz » Thu Jun 3, 2010 10:47 pm

Brooks is younger and has more upside than Ford now. Pacers would never trade Granger.
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Post#8 » by MaxRider » Thu Jun 3, 2010 10:51 pm

aznkillabeezZz wrote:Brooks is younger and has more upside than Ford now. Pacers would never trade Granger.

i'm pretty sure they are trying to trade granger for lebron
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Post#9 » by Moreyball » Thu Jun 3, 2010 11:38 pm

Brooks, Ariza, #14 for Granger, #10, Ford
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Post#10 » by Rendezvous » Fri Jun 4, 2010 1:15 am

Moreyball wrote:Brooks, Ariza, #14 for Granger, #10, Ford


Salary does not match.
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Post#11 » by aznkillabeezZz » Fri Jun 4, 2010 9:46 pm

MaxRider wrote:
aznkillabeezZz wrote:Brooks is younger and has more upside than Ford now. Pacers would never trade Granger.

i'm pretty sure they are trying to trade granger for lebron

No kidding, that goes without saying. I meant trade granger to us. Not for a Lebron or Kobe
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Post#12 » by Ripp » Sat Jun 5, 2010 3:17 pm

I would easily sell off Brooks for the #10 overall pick...but that is just me. #10 and #14 could be packaged to get something really nice...perhaps the #3 overall? Well, not quite, but it would be close.
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Post#13 » by Teckon » Sat Jun 5, 2010 5:40 pm

Ripp wrote:I would easily sell off Brooks for the #10 overall pick...but that is just me. #10 and #14 could be packaged to get something really nice...perhaps the #3 overall? Well, not quite, but it would be close.



Brooks is a proven player with 19.6 ppg, 5.3 ast ultra quick point guard and you would trade him for an unproven player at #10 pick? who at #10 has the potential to reach brook's level in 3 years?
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Post#14 » by Ripp » Sat Jun 5, 2010 8:04 pm

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Ripp wrote:I would easily sell off Brooks for the #10 overall pick...but that is just me. #10 and #14 could be packaged to get something really nice...perhaps the #3 overall? Well, not quite, but it would be close.



Brooks is a proven player with 19.6 ppg, 5.3 ast ultra quick point guard and you would trade him for an unproven player at #10 pick? who at #10 has the potential to reach brook's level in 3 years?


1) You have a coach in Rick Adelman under whom players tend to look much better than they look elsewhere....holding onto players for dear life doesn't make any sense, especially given how many PGs will be available on the market this summer.
2) Think about what a guy like Morey can do with a 10th pick...
3 Brooks' value is the highest it probably will ever be, since next year with a Yao-centric offense, his stats will likely decline. May as well sell high.
4) Brooks will get a big payday in 2011. May as well move him now and find a cheap replacement.
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Post#15 » by MaxRider » Sat Jun 5, 2010 8:18 pm

Teckon wrote:
Ripp wrote:I would easily sell off Brooks for the #10 overall pick...but that is just me. #10 and #14 could be packaged to get something really nice...perhaps the #3 overall? Well, not quite, but it would be close.



Brooks is a proven player with 19.6 ppg, 5.3 ast ultra quick point guard and you would trade him for an unproven player at #10 pick? who at #10 has the potential to reach brook's level in 3 years?

Avery Bradley :D look like Steve Francis v2
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Post#16 » by Teckon » Sun Jun 6, 2010 7:57 am

Ripp wrote:
Teckon wrote:
Ripp wrote:I would easily sell off Brooks for the #10 overall pick...but that is just me. #10 and #14 could be packaged to get something really nice...perhaps the #3 overall? Well, not quite, but it would be close.



Brooks is a proven player with 19.6 ppg, 5.3 ast ultra quick point guard and you would trade him for an unproven player at #10 pick? who at #10 has the potential to reach brook's level in 3 years?


1) You have a coach in Rick Adelman under whom players tend to look much better than they look elsewhere....holding onto players for dear life doesn't make any sense, especially given how many PGs will be available on the market this summer.
2) Think about what a guy like Morey can do with a 10th pick...
3 Brooks' value is the highest it probably will ever be, since next year with a Yao-centric offense, his stats will likely decline. May as well sell high.
4) Brooks will get a big payday in 2011. May as well move him now and find a cheap replacement.


I am not against trading Brooks but not for #10 picks you are underselling brooks - the current MIP.
I have great trust in Morey but if you can get better value than #10 pick why settle for less.
Brooks has high value now. Sell him for the highest bid not a lowly #10 pick.
A #10 pick will likely take at least a year to contribute meaning wasting another year of rockets and Yao.
Rockets have only 2 PGs, Brooks and Lowry. Trading one away will mean Rockets need to find another one. Good PG are rather expensive in this league.
Please list the pg available on the market this summer that is better than Brooks and not more expensive.
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Post#17 » by Draft Master J » Mon Jun 7, 2010 7:43 pm

Brooks is a grossly undersized, shoot-first point guard. The Pacers already have Ford, who's proven to be a more complete basketball player, thus we have no need for Brooks.

Battier or Scola, sure. Brooks? Zero interest.
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Post#18 » by Rendezvous » Tue Jun 8, 2010 12:27 am

Draft Master J wrote:Brooks is a grossly undersized, shoot-first point guard. The Pacers already have Ford, who's proven to be a more complete basketball player, thus we have no need for Brooks.

Battier or Scola, sure. Brooks? Zero interest.




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Post#19 » by Sasaki » Tue Jun 8, 2010 2:45 am

Draft Master J wrote:Brooks is a grossly undersized, shoot-first point guard. The Pacers already have Ford, who's proven to be a more complete basketball player, thus we have no need for Brooks.

Battier or Scola, sure. Brooks? Zero interest.

TJ Ford is better than Aaron Brooks.
ROTFLMAO. Let's just say that I don't expect anyone to even remotely consider Ford an All-Star like some did with Brooks.
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Post#20 » by red96 » Tue Jun 8, 2010 1:36 pm

Draft Master J wrote:Brooks is a grossly undersized, shoot-first point guard. The Pacers already have Ford, who's proven to be a more complete basketball player, thus we have no need for Brooks.

Battier or Scola, sure. Brooks? Zero interest.

Fine, keep his ass. We sure dont want him here. :) Ford seemed cool as a person but he's not as good as Brooks and TJ has never had a healthy season in his career.
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