Was Von Wafer a decent backup for you guys?

Bill Lumbergh · Post #1 » by **Bill Lumbergh** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:11 am

I realize this is a Rockets board, but my team just signed this guy for minimum, so I'm not expecting much from him, but wondered of you could give me a handle on what kind of game he has. Can he be a decent backup? I've also read that he was a head case. Any info appreciated.

Guy986 · Post #2 » by **Guy986** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:25 am

Yea when he received playing time, he generally played well. Good slasher/ decent shooter but he doesn't know what passing means.

As for head case. Yes he is an absolute idiot. He pissed off and barked at the only coach who ever believed in him..... in the playoffs no less.

M4P · Post #3 » by **M4P** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:29 am

Once he gets into his little zone he's not going to listen or pass to anyone.

Aside from that he was a great backup.

zapatasblood · Post #4 » by **zapatasblood** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:50 am

He was a good player and maybe still is but he has a big ego and thought he could say whatever and thus was bench in the playoffs

rocketsballin · Post #5 » by **rocketsballin** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:08 am

he's a good backup wing. can be a good scoring spark, also can be a headcase. tony allen tho, is a better option for a backup

Bill Lumbergh · Post #6 » by **Bill Lumbergh** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:48 am

roxfashoballin wrote:he's a good backup wing. can be a good scoring spark, also can be a headcase. tony allen tho, is a better option for a backup

Yeah, that ship's sailed already. Ainge let him get away and sign with Memphis.

rocketsballin · Post #7 » by **rocketsballin** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:06 am

i meant it woulda been better to keep him but ya i shouldnt of said that. w/o his defense, i dunno how well ur wing defense will be, wafer mos def aint an upgrade, at offense tho he is.

Bill Lumbergh · Post #8 » by **Bill Lumbergh** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:15 am

roxfashoballin wrote:i meant it woulda been better to keep him but ya i shouldnt of said that. w/o his defense, i dunno how well ur wing defense will be, wafer mos def aint an upgrade, at offense tho he is.

Yeah, Rox, you're right. TA is one of the best on ball wing defenders in the NBA. He's really trick or treat on offense with his loose handle, but he sure can defend. We'll miss that defense.

PocketRockets · Post #9 » by **PocketRockets** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:07 am

I doubt he'll have much impact bc you guys already have Nasty Nate, right? He'll play the same instant offense as nate so I don't know if both guys can co-exist, but like you said it's very low risk. The thing about him though is he's a competitor. Right or wrong he'll give you his best effort. You can't hate anyone for that.

JD326 · Post #10 » by **JD326** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:58 am

he was a beast for us as a starter, he was like a legit 25 ppg guy if we played him for 30+ min.. rick adelman was an idiot for not playing him more he could shoot and drive and draw fouls was decent on defense to... if ray allen gets hurt and he gets a chance hell do great.

Guy986 · Post #11 » by **Guy986** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:21 am

JD326 wrote:he was a beast for us as a starter, he was like a legit 25 ppg guy if we played him for 30+ min.. rick adelman was an idiot for not playing him more he could shoot and drive and draw fouls was decent on defense to... if ray allen gets hurt and he gets a chance hell do great.

Oh hey look its Von Wafer. Watssup Wafer.

Aaron Brooks · Post #12 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:21 am

JD326 wrote:he was a beast for us as a starter, he was like a legit 25 ppg guy if we played him for 30+ min.. rick adelman was an idiot for not playing him more he could shoot and drive and draw fouls was decent on defense to... if ray allen gets hurt and he gets a chance hell do great.

How is he a legit 25 ppg guy if his career high is 23 points, and that Adelman comment :crazy:

JD326 · Post #13 » by **JD326** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:28 am

Aaron Brooks wrote:
JD326 wrote:he was a beast for us as a starter, he was like a legit 25 ppg guy if we played him for 30+ min.. rick adelman was an idiot for not playing him more he could shoot and drive and draw fouls was decent on defense to... if ray allen gets hurt and he gets a chance hell do great.

How is he a legit 25 ppg guy if his career high is 23 points, and that Adelman comment

he could have if we played him 30-35 minutes a game and gave him some freedom which adelman wouldnt dom he played him like 20 min a game and when he would do good adelman would take him out for some dumb reason and screw up wafers confindence

aznkillabeezZz · Post #14 » by **aznkillabeezZz** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:37 am

He was good. He fit the rockets system. But i don't know about now. he's been doing like crap ever since he left.

Guy986 · Post #15 » by **Guy986** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:41 am

JD326 wrote:
Aaron Brooks wrote:
JD326 wrote:he was a beast for us as a starter, he was like a legit 25 ppg guy if we played him for 30+ min.. rick adelman was an idiot for not playing him more he could shoot and drive and draw fouls was decent on defense to... if ray allen gets hurt and he gets a chance hell do great.

How is he a legit 25 ppg guy if his career high is 23 points, and that Adelman comment

he could have if we played him 30-35 minutes a game and gave him some freedom which adelman wouldnt dom he played him like 20 min a game and when he would do good adelman would take him out for some dumb reason and screw up wafers confindence

dunleavyjr · Post #16 » by **dunleavyjr** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:05 am

2 seaons ago, Tmac lost all of his playing time to Wafer.
Guy can really shoot the lights out.
I like him.

moofs · Post #17 » by **moofs** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:17 pm

There you have it folks!

Moreyball · Post #18 » by **Moreyball** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:21 pm

not a good team fit.

i bet he would own in an NBA Jam world.

Post #19 » by **TMACFORMVP** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:05 pm

He was good, pretty electric in transition and a solid jump-shooter. Can be a real spark off the bench, but really failed for us in the playoffs where he was shut down by Vujacic's harassing defense, and was ejected out of the game by our coaching staff because of him complaining about minutes.

SinceGatlingWasARookie · Post #20 » by **SinceGatlingWasARookie** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:24 pm

How was Wafer on defense? Would Wafer be better or worse than the average NBA backup guard at guarding Dwyane Wade, Vince Carter and Kobe Bryant?