Your Carmelo to Houston trade

[dream34]

Outgoing:
Shane Battier
Jared Jeffries
Jordan Hill
Both NYK picks

Incoming:
Carmelo Anthony

Cap relief, young talent, picks? Can always replace Budinger with a NYK pick. I'm a fan of him, but he's useless if we have Carmelo. Patterson, as a UK fan, I'm big on too, but he is expendable in the end, so swap him with a pick if necessary also. We need someone who we can put the ball in their hands for the last shot.

Yao / Miller
Scola / Hayes / Patterson
Anthony / Budinger
Martin / Lee / Taylor
Brooks / Lowry

I don't think the Rockets are willing to include Martin in the trade. We are more sidestepping than upgrading if we swap them. I don't think Denver would want Brooks in return, he's due for a pay day and they have Billups on the books still. I think a combination of Budinger, Patterson, Hill, and NYK picks is what will get it done. Jeffries and Battier are require for salary reasons.

If the trade talks take long enough, see ya Lee, but he's currently restricted due to being recently traded.

[MaxRider]

we can trade scola and lowry because they just signed

only way to make the trade work one of these need to be included
battier+jeffries or martin+jeffries or martin+battier

[texasholdem]

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5698027

Rockets give up: Aaron Brooks, Shane Battier, Jared Jeffries, Chuck Hayes, Jordan Hill and ONE Knick First Rounder
Rockets receive: Carmelo Anthony and Andre Miller
F: Carmelo Anthony, Chase Budinger
F: Luis Scola, Patrick Patterson
C: Yao, Brad Miller
G: Andre Miller, Kyle Lowry
G: Kevin Martin, Courtney Lee

Andre Miller's $7.8m salary is a team option next year so he can be cut after the season then Lowry can take over. Andre did play with Carmelo during CA's first 4 years in the NBA so there is a history there.

Nuggets give up: Carmelo Anthony, Arron Afflalo
Nuggets receive: Rudy Fernandez, Shane Battier, Jared Jeffries, Jordan Hill, 1 Knick first rounder, 1 Blazer first rounder
F: Harrington, Battier
F: Martin, Hill, Jeffries
C: Nene, Andersen
G: Billups, Lawson, Carter
G: Fernandez, Smith

Rudy goes somewhere he can start. Nuggets get a young backup for KMart in Hill and 2 big expiring contracts in Battier and JJ.

Blazers give up: Andre Miller, Rudy Fernandez and 1 first round pick
Blazers receive: Aaron Brooks, Arron Affalo and Chuck Hayes
F: Batum, Babbitt
F: Aldridge, Hayes
C: Camby, Oden, Pryzbilla
G: Brooks, Bayless
G: Roy, Matthews, Afflalo

Blazers get a young local PG in AB, a defensive backup for Aldridge in Chuck Hayes and a decent reserve in Afflalo.

[MaxRider]

that's too much to give up
based on rumor ny and chicago offer
we can just give them battier+jeffries+hill+1 ny pick and outbid ny and chicago

[x-]

Yeah, I'd try to keep most core players and offer them expirings (Jeffries, Battier), young talent (Hill) and a bunch of picks. Of course you'd like to keep some of all those assembled picks, but with how deep this roster is I'd rather give up a first rounder than Budinger.

Jeffries, Battier, Hill + NY picks + one future 1st, if that's what it takes. I might even throw in Taylor or another 1st if they buyout Battier.
Isiah Thomas would be proud of me.

[tisbee]

Martin,Hill,non-guaranteed Johnson,2011 First and 2013 First for Anthony and R.Blackman(using TPE). Denver gets $5mil+ salary relief(doubled because of Lux Tax,so really save $10mil+),solid scorer they can sell to fans,promising young big and a couple of Firsts.

Houston still has enough for another big trade.
Say Jeffries,Battier,Bud,better of 2012 Firsts for Iguodala,Kapono.

Brooks/Lowry/Ish
Iggy/Lee/Taylor
Anthony/Kapono/Blackman
Scola/Hayes/Patterson
Yao/Miller/Damp-Fes-whoever

Small ball line-up:
Brooks(or Lowry for D)
Lee
Iggy
Carmelo
Miller/Damp/Scola

[bubba]

i love it how ny fans know so much about melo and what he wants and what he says. "he wont pick hou" and stuff like that. truth is no one knows but melo. even if ny got him i guarantee we could beat them with both teams healthy

[dream34]

In all seriousness - I think this trade does it for both teams:

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5698651

Rockets agree to take back Al Harrington's long term contract in order to help Denver enter full rebuild mode.

Yao
Scola
Melo
Martin
Brooks

with Miller, Harrington, Lee, and Lowry filling out the 9 man rotation.

[MaxRider]

In all seriousness - I think this trade does it for both teams:

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5698651

Rockets agree to take back Al Harrington's long term contract in order to help Denver enter full rebuild mode.

Yao
Scola
Melo
Martin
Brooks

with Miller, Harrington, Lee, and Lowry filling out the 9 man rotation.

Battier+Jeffries+Hill will do
we have trade exception we can use on Harrington
save Denver even more money
but they actually want to get rid of JR Smith not Harrington
btw Harrington just signed he can't be traded until Dec 15th or 3 months after he's signing, whichever is later

[texasholdem]

Martin,Hill,non-guaranteed Johnson,2011 First and 2013 First for Anthony and R.Blackman(using TPE).

Ronaldo Blackman in his prime would be an awesome two guard off the bench.
Renaldo Balkman on the other hand is worthless.

[tisbee]

"Renaldo Balkman on the other hand is worthless."
-texasholdem

Oops. Should not trust my memory

[TMU]

Martin,Hill,non-guaranteed Johnson,2011 First and 2013 First for Anthony and R.Blackman(using TPE).

Ronaldo Blackman in his prime would be an awesome two guard off the bench.
Renaldo Balkman on the other hand is worthless.

[texasholdem]

"Renaldo Balkman on the other hand is worthless."
-texasholdem

Oops. Should not trust my memory

meh we all screw up.
i misspelled Blackman's name as Ronaldo when it should be Rolando.

[fisterkev]

I must be the only guy out there who doesn't want Carmelo Anthony. I want to keep the team as is, maybe tinker around the edges, and see what happens. I want to see what a Yao, Brooks, Martin + deepness can get us. I think we're pretty good as is.

I don't like Melo. I think he's a punk. I have always admired the Rox organization for picking classy guys; when they pick a bad one the stay is usually short. I don't see Anthony staying here long , as he obviously wants the limelight. I hope that the Rox either stay well away from this one, or use a 3-team deal to get something advantagous for the team.

Keep the core together and see what we can do. I am not expecting a championship this year considering the megateams being built on each coast, but I wouldn't put a deep playoff run beyond the current team. Hell, anything can happen once you get there...

[pretender_2002]

I must be the only guy out there who doesn't want Carmelo Anthony. I want to keep the team as is, maybe tinker around the edges, and see what happens. I want to see what a Yao, Brooks, Martin + deepness can get us. I think we're pretty good as is.

I don't like Melo. I think he's a punk. I have always admired the Rox organization for picking classy guys; when they pick a bad one the stay is usually short. I don't see Anthony staying here long , as he obviously wants the limelight. I hope that the Rox either stay well away from this one, or use a 3-team deal to get something advantagous for the team.

Keep the core together and see what we can do. I am not expecting a championship this year considering the megateams being built on each coast, but I wouldn't put a deep playoff run beyond the current team. Hell, anything can happen once you get there...

I agree with you about Melo being a punk but if we only give up Jeffries, Battier, Hill and some picks we are making out like bandits. Think about this, we can acquire an elite sf and if he resigns and we don't like him we can always trade him for something good (better than what we would get him for). Jeffries has value as an expiring and that will only be for this year, so either we use him in a trade or we lose that value to match salaries. That said, I would actually rather have a player like Iguodala than Melo, but if the opportunity is there we have to take it.

[fisterkev]

I really don't see Denver giving him up for nothing. They will want Martin, Brooks, someone important to us - and I don't want to part with them; Battier is about the only one I'd be willing to part with, and then only because of his age and inevitably declining defensive skills. If Morey rapes them and gets Melo for peanuts as you propose, then fine, we can do it for a year or two and see what happens.

Even if we got him I'd expect him to bolt at some near future date.

[tisbee]

Pet theory-Morey is working on a big trade w/somebody else who isn't ready or willing to make the trade.
Morey heard Anthony was available and tried to get him cheap,hoping there was a fire sale. Didn't happen,so Morey told Denver if they need help making a trade call,hoping he can scavenge a player/prospect out of the deal. Meanwhile having Denver as a possible destination for all his trade goodies puts pressure on the team he really wants to deal with to make the trade before all of Morey's pieces are gone.(Just like all the possible trade partners for McGrady,or the Chronicle pushing the Rockets are just going to let McGrady expire line,pressured the Knicks into over-paying.)

I seriously doubt Morey has built up his trading assets w/the hope that maybe somewhere,somehow the right player will fall into his hands. I think he has identified the player(s) he wants to replace McGrady and is trying to trade for him. If in the meantime a top talent becomes available,he'll make a run(Bosh,Paul,Anthony) because you never know.

[MaxRider]

I really don't see Denver giving him up for nothing. They will want Martin, Brooks, someone important to us - and I don't want to part with them; Battier is about the only one I'd be willing to part with, and then only because of his age and inevitably declining defensive skills. If Morey rapes them and gets Melo for peanuts as you propose, then fine, we can do it for a year or two and see what happens.

Even if we got him I'd expect him to bolt at some near future date.

If Denver is trying to rebuild, first thing they don't want to do is take back long term contract, they need cap space to sign big name free agent.
so they will not take back Kevin Martin
Brooks is uprising PG, contract is up, new contract is coming up (at least 8M/year), they also got Billups (big contact) and Lawson (another uprising PG). Don't make sense for them to take him.
So unless a 3rd team is involve, noway Denver is taking those two.

[rocketsballin]

for days i've been trying to make realistic a 4way trade with denver trading melo, billups, kmart, and anderson, and we give up martin and fillers, but its GOD DAAM NEAR IMPOSSIBLE!!! when i think i got the trade right, i forget to add martin, or kmart and anderson. freaking kmart wanted a big ass contract

and this trade exception thing, you cant use it in a trade? i thought you cant trade them, but can absorb salary, but is that only through a signing?

[bubba]

well supposedly hes close to goin to nj and theyd be giving up favors and harris. id like to see lopez and melo win anything except a lotto pick next year.