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Trade: Lottery protected '12 1st rnder for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:11 pm
by x-
Deal is complete. Nets send Terrence to Houston, Joe Smith and two second-rounders to the Lakers, get two No. 1s and Sasha Vujacic.
http://twitter.com/Al_IannazzoneLakers also acquired [...] the draft rights to Sergei Lishchuk from Hou.
http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahooTo make room for Williams, the Rockets will send guard Jermaine Taylor and cash considerations to the Sacramento Kings for a second-round pick they almost certainly will never receive.
The draft pick will be lottery-protected through 2017
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/spo ... 39255.html
Re: Rockets to trade 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:15 pm
by rocketsballin
there goes all my credibility for morey. rocket are doomed for at least 5 years
Re: Rockets to trade 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:17 pm
by Mr. E
I know nothing about Terrance Williams. I'm officially in "wait & see" mode 'til I start trying to analyze the trade.
...also seeing the whole trade will help.
Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:20 pm
by Guy986
Good god.
We know T Will can't shoot but he's an athletic long swing in the mold of Trevor Ariza. How is he defensively? If we trade for him, i assume he's playing backup SF for us.
Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:20 pm
by moofs
His percentages suck, but he rebounds like a man possessed, it looks like... Other than that, I don't get it.
Then again, how many of us got the Lowry trade at first?
Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:21 pm
by rocketsballin
we gave away a first rounder for a struggling sophmore who got sent down to the dleague this season. a million better ways to use a first round pick, and morey decides to go with one of the worst. i should've known he wasnt that good when he was convinced after signing brad miller that houston is a contender. not even mentioning increasing yao's minutes after jan/feb. doesnt know **** abaout defense or closing games.
Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:22 pm
by Guy986
I dont know how i feel about getting a wingman that can't shoot. And he's a friggin Net to boot. Is Morey trying to reassemble that historically bad Net team here in Houston?
Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:22 pm
by Aaron Brooks
T-Will is Iggy lite, I've always liked him
Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:23 pm
by Guy986
roxfashoballin wrote:we gave away a first rounder for a struggling sophmore who got sent down to the dleague this season. a million better ways to use a first round pick, and morey decides to go with one of the worst. i should've known he wasnt that good when he was convinced after signing brad miller that houston is a contender. not even mentioning increasing yao's minutes after jan/feb. doesnt know **** abaout defense or closing games.
T Will has skill. He's a (very) poor man's Iguodala. Just can't shoot is all. His defense shouldn't be terrible right?
But he's a NET! A ****ing Net.
Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:23 pm
by TMACFORMVP
He did 14/7/5 in the last two months of the season last year. And he tore up summer league from what I saw, but I don't understand why he got in the doghouse for the Nets this season. Interesting trade though, I like it. He's athletic, a good ball handler, and creator from the perimeter. He's an OK shooter, and a good defender when he's on his game. The way he played the last two months of his rookie season was similar to a poor mans Andre Iguodala sort.
I'm assuming we're using the TPE we acquired from the Ariza trade to make this happen?
Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:25 pm
by rocketsballin
u guys are too optimistic. he's not someone we need now or in the near future.
Re: Rockets to trade 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:25 pm
by x-
Mr. E wrote:I know nothing about Terrance Williams. I'm officially in "wait & see" mode 'til I start trying to analyze the trade.
...also seeing the whole trade will help.
The trade is:
Houston sends: 2012 first round pick, $2.2mil of the David Andersen TPE
Receives: Terrence Williams
New Jersey sends: Terrence Williams, Joe Smith
Receives: Sasha Vujacic, HOU 2012 1st, LAL 2011 1st
L.A. sends: Sasha Vujacic, 2011 first round pick
Receives: Joe Smith
Re: Rockets to trade 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:29 pm
by Mr. E
x- wrote:Mr. E wrote:I know nothing about Terrance Williams. I'm officially in "wait & see" mode 'til I start trying to analyze the trade.
...also seeing the whole trade will help.
So far the structure of the trade is:
Houston sends: 2012 first round pick, $2.2mil of the David Andersen TPE
Receives: Terrence Williams
New Jersey sends: Terrence Williams, Joe Smith
Receives: Sasha Vujacic, HOU 2012 1st, LAL 2011 1st
L.A. sends: Sasha Vujacic, 2011 first round pick
Receives: Joe Smith
I think the Nets would have to send one more player to L.A. to make it work finanically.
thanks, dude!
One question - is it our 2012 first rounder or the Knicks 2012 first rounder? Knowing Morey he probably worked it out so that Houston keeps the better of the two.
Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:29 pm
by Guy986
roxfashoballin wrote:u guys are too optimistic. he's not someone we need now or in the near future.
If we get TWill, we have another log jam at the 2/3 spot.
Battier
Martin
Budinger
TWill
Lee
Lowry(who will play some SG with brooks back)
Taylor
Too many players. We better ship one of them out. Probably Taylor.
Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:31 pm
by Aaron Brooks
TMACFORMVP wrote:He did 14/7/5 in the last two months of the season last year. And he tore up summer league from what I saw, but I don't understand why he got in the doghouse for the Nets this season. Interesting trade though, I like it. He's athletic, a good ball handler, and creator from the perimeter. He's an OK shooter, and a good defender when he's on his game. The way he played the last two months of his rookie season was similar to a poor mans Andre Iguodala sort.
I'm assuming we're using the TPE we acquired from the Ariza trade to make this happen?
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Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:34 pm
by TMACFORMVP
WojYahooNBA: Deal can't be finalized until Wednesday (Dec. 15th) because Joe Smith was a free agent signing.
Are we over roster limit after this trade?
u guys are too optimistic. he's not someone we need now or in the near future.
He does have his problems, and his stats were likely a bit inflated being on such a horrible team last season, but I wouldn't be too quick to say he's someone that couldn't help in the future. He does have an interesting skill-set, and would potentially fit at SF next to Brooks and Martin behind Battier, and if developed properly, someone that would take his spot for the foreseeable future.
Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:34 pm
by Aaron Brooks
Guy986 wrote:roxfashoballin wrote:u guys are too optimistic. he's not someone we need now or in the near future.
If we get TWill, we have another log jam at the 2/3 spot.
Battier
Martin
Budinger
TWill
Lee
Lowry(who will play some SG with brooks back)
Taylor
Too many players. We better ship one of them out. Probably Taylor.
Morey is finally getting some multi-dimensional players
Re: Rockets to trade 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:34 pm
by x-
Mr. E wrote:x- wrote:Mr. E wrote:I know nothing about Terrance Williams. I'm officially in "wait & see" mode 'til I start trying to analyze the trade.
...also seeing the whole trade will help.
So far the structure of the trade is:
Houston sends: 2012 first round pick, $2.2mil of the David Andersen TPE
Receives: Terrence Williams
New Jersey sends: Terrence Williams, Joe Smith
Receives: Sasha Vujacic, HOU 2012 1st, LAL 2011 1st
L.A. sends: Sasha Vujacic, 2011 first round pick
Receives: Joe Smith
I think the Nets would have to send one more player to L.A. to make it work finanically.
thanks, dude!
One question - is it our 2012 first rounder or the Knicks 2012 first rounder? Knowing Morey he probably worked it out so that Houston keeps the better of the two.
Good question. We might have to wait until to tommorow to find out. Joe Smith can't be traded before Dec 15, so we'll have to wait and see.
I also checked the salaries again. The trade is final I believe. The Nets would just have to renounce Jarvis Hayes.
Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:34 pm
by rocketsballin
since he's young, athletic, and has size for a wing, he wont suck at defense. and we do need more defense, but NOT FROM THE WINGS!!! there is no way this team gets past the first round with yao playing 24min.
maybe yao wont be resigned, i'm ok w/ that, as long as there's a defensive big who can protect the paint/rebound/rip heads off to replace yao.
i dont like this trade, i hope i'm proven wrong.
Re: Rockets trade 2012 1st round pick for Terrence Williams
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:37 pm
by x-
Aaron Brooks wrote:T-Will is Iggy lite, I've always liked him
Me too. Love him in Louisville and when I saw that the Nets were sending him down for a D-League stint, I was kind of hoping Morey would find a way to trade for him.
He's actually not a bad shooter. He's a bit of a chucker though and takes some tough shots, which kills his shooting %. He's very athletic, got a good basketball IQ and is a good playermaker, which makes him a good fit alongside Martin and Brooks.
What I don't like though is that the Rockets might have to waive Ish Smith or Jermaine Taylor. I hope they'll trade/buy out Jeffries instead.