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Bulls fan here.
How do you guys feel about trading Williams or Lee? Do you think one of them could be available? What would the Bulls need to offer to acquire one of the two?

The Bulls obviously need to do something about the starting shooting guard situation and I think Lee and Williams could both do a good job.

someone asked the question last week
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1088286

Both Lee and Williams are available but...
Williams wouldn't help the Bulls. Right now he's a poor mans Ronnie Brewer, he can't shoot and he overdribbles. Not ready to help a contending team.

Courtney Lee will help the Bulls right away. Lee can be a long term starter in Chicago. He's athletic in the open court, he has range and he can defend. Lets be honest if Chicago's first round pick is enough to pry Lee away, it would've been done already.

The Rockets want Charlotte's pick. And the Rockets also want to get under the lux cap. So if the Bulls want Lee it'll be something like Lee + Jeffries for filler and Charlotte first pick.

Guy986 wrote:Both Lee and Williams are available but...
Williams wouldn't help the Bulls. Right now he's a poor mans Ronnie Brewer, he can't shoot and he overdribbles. Not ready to help a contending team.

Courtney Lee will help the Bulls right away. Lee can be a long term starter in Chicago. He's athletic in the open court, he has range and he can defend. Lets be honest if Chicago's first round pick is enough to pry Lee away, it would've been done already.

The Rockets want Charlotte's pick. And the Rockets also want to get under the lux cap. So if the Bulls want Lee it'll be something like Lee + Jeffries for filler and Charlotte first pick.

Wa about a regular first round pick, 1 or 2 second rounders, Brewer, JJ and Bogans instead of the Charlotte?

I very much doubt that you could get Lee for the Bulls pick.

Look at it this way: What do you hope to get out of a pick in the 25 to 30 range? A decent contributor is usually the best case scenario, maybe some kind of longer term project or some Euro that you may or may not get to come over in the next 5 years. Lee for Houston is already that "best case scenario" kind of guy that you could get with a late pick. So why would the Rockets trade Lee in the hopes of maybe getting a similar player?

And I'm still not quite sure why Bulls fans so over value that Charlotte pick, thinking its going to bring them some kind of star back. Here is the protection on it:

2012 - Top 14 Protected
2013 - Top 12 Protected
2014 - Top 10 Protected
2015 - Top 8 Protected
2016 - Unprotected

With Charlottes management and team situation being what it is, we may not see that pick for 5 years if the Rockets traded for it. Sure, it'll be pretty sweet when we finally do get that pick, but that draft class may not even be in highschool yet!

So IMO, its going to cost you more than just your late first round pick. Maybe if we got the pick and under the Luxury Tax, but I doubt that even that would even be enough. Probably the Charlotte pick plus getting us under the Luxury Tax is the true cost for Lee.

^good post. didn't even know about the 2012 - 2016 thing.