Trade Thread - Approaching the Trade Deadline
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:40 pm
With the trade deadline only two weeks away I thought it was a good idea to give opposing fans an idea to what Morey and his player personal staff are looking at.
Note that all of the following is based on reports, as well as my personal opinions, so if you think I have no clue what I'm talking about you probably should stop reading right here, if you haven't already.
Q: What do the Rockets want?
A: A star. A center. Save money / get under the luxary tax. In that order.
Q: A center I hear? Do you want Andris Biedrins, Brendan Haywood, Chris Andersen, Jermaine O'Neal, Jeff Foster, Solomon Jones or Nenad Kristic?
A: No, thank you.
Q: What about Kaman, Dalembert or Camby?
A: Not a fan personally, but have been mentioned. It's far more likely Morey will go for somebody younger, though getting Melo could change things.
Q: What players have the Rockets shown interest in?
A: Carmelo Anthony, Chris Paul, Nene, Josh Smith, Danny Granger, Marcin Gortat, Anderson Varejao, DeMarcus Cousins, DeAndre Jordan, Greg Monroe, Anthony Randolph and Ricky Rubio.
Q: I'm a fan of a team that employs one of the players above. What can we expect in return.
A: Nobody is untouchable. I'd say the most likely players to be traded are Yao, Jeffries, Hill & Budinger. Least likely to be traded I'd say are Martin, Lowry & Hayes, but expect the unexpected.
Q: What draft picks could the Rockets include in a trade?
A: The Rockets can trade two draft picks of value: Our 2011 second rounder (rights to swap with LAC) and the 2012 first rounder from NY (top 5 protected).
The Rockets 2011 first rounder cannot be traded, since Morey traded the Rockets 2012 first rounder to NJ (T.Williams). The Rockets 2013 first rounder cannot be traded due the protection on the 2012 NY pick. Our 2012 & 2013 second rounders have been traded to Detroit (Budinger) and Atlanta (D.Andersen).
Q: I see that Terrence Williams is getting no playing time. Does this mean you'd be open to trading him for our scrubs?
A: No. Morey and Adelman are valuing players very differently. Morey is always looking to buy low, no matter if there's an opening in the rotation or not. Adelman on the other hand is all about being comfortable with his rotation and trusting his players, which is why Brooks, Lee and Budinger are ahead of Williams in the rotation. I'd argue that Morey would trade all three of them before trading Williams.
Q: I'm a Bulls fan. What about Courtney Lee for the Bobcats first rounder?
A: Rockets fan are split on Courtney Lee. Some would trade him for a late first rounder, some woudn't trade him for anything short of a lottery pick in a strong draft, which the upcoming certainly is not. The fact that Morey has been trying to get Lee since he entered the draft makes me think that the Rockets woudn't trade Lee for the Bobcats first rounder.
Q: So what about Omer Asik. I've read the Wiretap report.
A: Ya. Not sure what to make of that. The Realgm wiretap report differes from the orignal report by Feigan, who didn't actually report a deal centered around Lee and Asik. Bulls fans may not like a Lee-Asik swap, but I don't see how it helps the Rockets either, though I probably haven't seen enough of Asik to make that kind of judgment.
Q: I'm a Knicks fan. Are you interested in Wilson Chandler?
A: No. Chandler doesn't address a need and is due for a payday.
Q: What about a three way trade helping us (NY) get Melo?
A: Any trade involving the Rockets and Knicks seems unlikely. The last thing we want is the Knicks to get better, because it hurts the value of the 2012 first rounder.
Q: But you are interested in Anthony Randolph, aren't you? What about trading our '12 first rounder back to us.
A: The Rockets reportedly are indeed interested in Randolph, however it's also been reported that they won't trade back the NY pick for Randolph.
Q: I'm a Kings fan. Landry for Brooks?
A: I don't see it. Brooks sure has lost a lot of value, but so has Landry. Brooks will be a RFA, Landry an UFA. Why sell low on the guy you can match any offer for for a guy that you could just sign during the off-season? Furthermore we already have a bunch of PF's, including Patterson, who was sixth on our draft board. So unless we acquire Melo, trade Patterson and try to make some noise now, a Landry-Brooks swap doesn't seem to make much sense.
Q: So what do you want for Brooks?
A: I don't know. Probably some sort of draft pick.
EDIT: Ric Bucher: "Rockets aren't moving Brooks unless it's part of a deal that gets them the superstar/building block they're looking for." http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/36897
Q: So if Brooks were to be traded, would you want a PG in return?
A: Not necessarily. Unless there's a PG Morey has been targeting Ish Smith, Courtney Lee and Terrence Williams should do the job.
Q: I'm having fun with the trade machine. Can I throw in Chuck Hayes as a filler?
A: No. Chuck Hayes is arguably the MVP of this team. We don't want to trade him and he certainly is not a filler.
Q: What about Ish Smith?
A: Would rather not trade him, probably not a deal breaker though.
Q: Anything else?
A: The Rockets have 15 players under contract, meaning we can't receive more players than we send out. In fact we'd probably be happy to do a two or three for one type of trade and open up a roster spot, so we can sign an undersized D-League PF.
Feel free to add stuff, correct me or ask a question.
Note that all of the following is based on reports, as well as my personal opinions, so if you think I have no clue what I'm talking about you probably should stop reading right here, if you haven't already.
Q: What do the Rockets want?
A: A star. A center. Save money / get under the luxary tax. In that order.
Q: A center I hear? Do you want Andris Biedrins, Brendan Haywood, Chris Andersen, Jermaine O'Neal, Jeff Foster, Solomon Jones or Nenad Kristic?
A: No, thank you.
Q: What about Kaman, Dalembert or Camby?
A: Not a fan personally, but have been mentioned. It's far more likely Morey will go for somebody younger, though getting Melo could change things.
Q: What players have the Rockets shown interest in?
A: Carmelo Anthony, Chris Paul, Nene, Josh Smith, Danny Granger, Marcin Gortat, Anderson Varejao, DeMarcus Cousins, DeAndre Jordan, Greg Monroe, Anthony Randolph and Ricky Rubio.
Q: I'm a fan of a team that employs one of the players above. What can we expect in return.
A: Nobody is untouchable. I'd say the most likely players to be traded are Yao, Jeffries, Hill & Budinger. Least likely to be traded I'd say are Martin, Lowry & Hayes, but expect the unexpected.
Q: What draft picks could the Rockets include in a trade?
A: The Rockets can trade two draft picks of value: Our 2011 second rounder (rights to swap with LAC) and the 2012 first rounder from NY (top 5 protected).
The Rockets 2011 first rounder cannot be traded, since Morey traded the Rockets 2012 first rounder to NJ (T.Williams). The Rockets 2013 first rounder cannot be traded due the protection on the 2012 NY pick. Our 2012 & 2013 second rounders have been traded to Detroit (Budinger) and Atlanta (D.Andersen).
Q: I see that Terrence Williams is getting no playing time. Does this mean you'd be open to trading him for our scrubs?
A: No. Morey and Adelman are valuing players very differently. Morey is always looking to buy low, no matter if there's an opening in the rotation or not. Adelman on the other hand is all about being comfortable with his rotation and trusting his players, which is why Brooks, Lee and Budinger are ahead of Williams in the rotation. I'd argue that Morey would trade all three of them before trading Williams.
Q: I'm a Bulls fan. What about Courtney Lee for the Bobcats first rounder?
A: Rockets fan are split on Courtney Lee. Some would trade him for a late first rounder, some woudn't trade him for anything short of a lottery pick in a strong draft, which the upcoming certainly is not. The fact that Morey has been trying to get Lee since he entered the draft makes me think that the Rockets woudn't trade Lee for the Bobcats first rounder.
Q: So what about Omer Asik. I've read the Wiretap report.
A: Ya. Not sure what to make of that. The Realgm wiretap report differes from the orignal report by Feigan, who didn't actually report a deal centered around Lee and Asik. Bulls fans may not like a Lee-Asik swap, but I don't see how it helps the Rockets either, though I probably haven't seen enough of Asik to make that kind of judgment.
Q: I'm a Knicks fan. Are you interested in Wilson Chandler?
A: No. Chandler doesn't address a need and is due for a payday.
Q: What about a three way trade helping us (NY) get Melo?
A: Any trade involving the Rockets and Knicks seems unlikely. The last thing we want is the Knicks to get better, because it hurts the value of the 2012 first rounder.
Q: But you are interested in Anthony Randolph, aren't you? What about trading our '12 first rounder back to us.
A: The Rockets reportedly are indeed interested in Randolph, however it's also been reported that they won't trade back the NY pick for Randolph.
Q: I'm a Kings fan. Landry for Brooks?
A: I don't see it. Brooks sure has lost a lot of value, but so has Landry. Brooks will be a RFA, Landry an UFA. Why sell low on the guy you can match any offer for for a guy that you could just sign during the off-season? Furthermore we already have a bunch of PF's, including Patterson, who was sixth on our draft board. So unless we acquire Melo, trade Patterson and try to make some noise now, a Landry-Brooks swap doesn't seem to make much sense.
Q: So what do you want for Brooks?
A: I don't know. Probably some sort of draft pick.
EDIT: Ric Bucher: "Rockets aren't moving Brooks unless it's part of a deal that gets them the superstar/building block they're looking for." http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/36897
Q: So if Brooks were to be traded, would you want a PG in return?
A: Not necessarily. Unless there's a PG Morey has been targeting Ish Smith, Courtney Lee and Terrence Williams should do the job.
Q: I'm having fun with the trade machine. Can I throw in Chuck Hayes as a filler?
A: No. Chuck Hayes is arguably the MVP of this team. We don't want to trade him and he certainly is not a filler.
Q: What about Ish Smith?
A: Would rather not trade him, probably not a deal breaker though.
Q: Anything else?
A: The Rockets have 15 players under contract, meaning we can't receive more players than we send out. In fact we'd probably be happy to do a two or three for one type of trade and open up a roster spot, so we can sign an undersized D-League PF.
Feel free to add stuff, correct me or ask a question.
