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[Wiretap] Rockets Want Nene (But Trade Not Likely)

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[Wiretap] Rockets Want Nene (But Trade Not Likely) 

Post#1 » by TMU » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:03 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1EhRnMrY4

The Rockets badly want to swing a deal with the Nuggets for Nene, but Denver isn't expected to trade the center.

"Houston wants Nene bad but sources say Denver unlikely to trade Nene or JR Smith before deadline," Chris Broussard of ESPN wrote on his Twitter page.

Nene can opt out of his contract and become a free agent this coming summer and there have been reports that Denver will try to sign him to an extension now that they have traded Carmelo Anthony.


Not a huge fan of Nene, but it was worth trying. Morey doin work.
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Post#2 » by HTown_TMac » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:18 pm

The Nuggets are talking about extending Nene.. Nene loves Denver.. Nene is not coming to Houston.
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Post#3 » by MaxRider » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:11 pm

how about changing the title
Rockets want Howard not going to happen
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Post#4 » by Optimism Prime » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:18 pm

MaxRider wrote:how about changing the title
Rockets want Howardnot going to happen


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Post#5 » by Baller 24 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:46 pm

Garbage, don't need him, he's worthless. If he's not on a strict team defense oriented scheme he doesn't really have any defensive value that will help us become a better defensive team. He's just being overrated right now because of his production, needless to say he was injury prone.

This entire team needs a makeover, it needs to start with the coaching staff that's more defense oriented.
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Re: [Wiretap] Rockets Want Nene (But Trade Not Likely) 

Post#6 » by MaxRider » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:19 pm

Baller 24 wrote:Garbage, don't need him, he's worthless. If he's not on a strict team defense oriented scheme he doesn't really have any defensive value that will help us become a better defensive team. He's just being overrated right now because of his production, needless to say he was injury prone.

This entire team needs a makeover, it needs to start with the coaching staff that's more defense oriented.

should've name thibodeau as head coach
i know rose+boozer+deng really help his first head coach career
i think our biggest mistake is naming morey as gm
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Re: [Wiretap] Rockets Want Nene (But Trade Not Likely) 

Post#7 » by KiDdFrESh » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:39 pm

MaxRider wrote:i think our biggest mistake is naming morey as gm


pffttt your crazy.

Our biggest mistake was taking so long to get him here. Shoulda been here from day one when we got Tmac and Yao.
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Post#8 » by rocketsballin » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:02 pm

Baller 24 wrote:Garbage, don't need him, he's worthless. If he's not on a strict team defense oriented scheme he doesn't really have any defensive value that will help us become a better defensive team. He's just being overrated right now because of his production, needless to say he was injury prone.

This entire team needs a makeover, it needs to start with the coaching staff that's more defense oriented.
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Post#9 » by rocketsballin » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:07 pm

does it concern anyone that morey thinks nene is good enough to defend the paint w/ scola at the 4? i hope morey knows what kind of defensive big we need
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Post#10 » by MaxRider » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:19 pm

KiDdFrESh wrote:
MaxRider wrote:i think our biggest mistake is naming morey as gm


pffttt your crazy.

Our biggest mistake was taking so long to get him here. Shoulda been here from day one when we got Tmac and Yao.

sorry man but looking at all the trades he done in the last 4 years
lot of moves i don't like
don't bring up the scola trade
he got lucky there
spurs saying they have no idea what they were thinking
the trade he pwned knicks? yea right
right to swap pick in 2011, even if we are in the playoff their pick is still in high 10s, not much advantage
they will only get better in 2012, so 2012 pick is either high 10s or low 20s
at the end we got hill ... don't even go there
only move i like is the artest trade without giving up brooks (too bad our stars aint healthy)
brooks pick? it was adelman's move, morey wanted fernandez, he got away so he just go with adelman's move
the move i hate the most?
gay for battier
nothing against battier
but we traded away our best prospect since yao
at the end we got lousy potential players
hill - he's a bust, now patterson is playing ahead of him
t-will - warming up our bench, cold weather is over soon, we don't need him to warm the bench
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Post#11 » by Baller 24 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:32 pm

Max is spot on, I like Morey, I like how he was capable of adding depth, but some of the moves are questionable. Max, I agree with all your points, but what else can a guy do with two injury prone superstars in Yao and Tmac taking up over 50% of the salary? It's tough, I don't think we can play the blame game on anyone here, it has to start with whoever decided to continue building around Yao. Hell even during the summer we could have gotten a really good deal for him, now he's just worth an expiring contract.
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Post#12 » by MaxRider » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:47 pm

not trading yao is not morey's fault
yao's value is too huge for les' businesses in china
our rookie pat pat got shoe endorsement from peak because of that
how many rookie got a shoe deal?
rookies i remember signed a deal before playing an actual nba game are john wall, kevin durant, derrick rose, lebron james

right now i just hope we don't get stupid and suck up to long big contract and hope we got lucky in lottery
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Post#13 » by KiDdFrESh » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:15 pm

He took over a team that was in salary cap hell with no prospects nothing outside of Yao and Tmac. He hasnt brought in a game changer yet but who was available that we had an honest shot at?

He took over a team that was filled with mediocore & overpaid vets that crippled the salary cap which prevented the team from having any flexibility at all. He turned those bums into assets and has put this team in a much better position cap wise and has more young talent than we've had in over a decade. He hasn't been able to trade for a superstar but you know what? He shouldn't have had too. We were built around two perrenial all-stars that have probably spent half there tenure in Houston on the sideline.

And for the last time!!!!!!!!!!! MOREY DID NOT TRADE RUDY GAY FOR SHANE BATTIER!!! THIS HAS BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH MANY TIMES!!!

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He is the current general manager of the Houston Rockets of the National Basketball Association. He was named Assistant General Manager on April 3, 2006 and succeeded Carroll Dawson as General Manager on May 10, 2007.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Morey

On draft night...

http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/Rockets_acquire_Battier_in_tra-184447-822.html

Rockets general manager Carroll Dawson said Memphis called offering Battier and the deal was too good to pass up.

"We were very excited when we heard that Shane was available," Dawson said. "We made the deal without hesitation."


GEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!! And Rudy Gay isn't that good. He can score the ball but so what? Thats it. Your telling me ud be ok paying him 82 mil? Thats gay...
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Re: [Wiretap] Rockets Want Nene (But Trade Not Likely) 

Post#14 » by MaxRider » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:27 pm

you guys keep overrating this team
we are dead last in offense in the last 5 min
at least rudy gay can shoot at crunch time
i'm freaking tired seeing either jacking up bad shot (air ball) or turnover
yea gay isn't good
he's better than what we have now

believe whatever you want about gay-battier trade
this is what i got
Out of curiosity, I asked the insider whether the Battier trade was more a Dawson or a Morey move (since the Battier trade went down in Dawson's last year when Morey was doing his "GM apprenticeship"). The insider did not answer directly, but gave it away with his response -- he said that the trade was a moneyball move (i.e., Morey). He said that the owner did need a little bit of convincing because they were giving up a very good prospect, but that it was a move that the Rockets FO thought would be good for both teams. For you Rudy Gay fans, he also mentioned that Rudy developed a little faster than the Rockets had anticipated, and that had they forecasted that rate of development, it would have made them (or at least the owner) more hesitant to do the trade (although he seemed to suggest they might still have done it). However, they are happy with Shane. He also said that Morey and his group were brilliant, with the main point being that Morey doesn't usually overpay (whether through trades or for cash) for talent (e.g., not all moves pan out - SF3, Bonzi, etc. - but Morey generally has not committed very much money in those moves).
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Re: [Wiretap] Rockets Want Nene (But Trade Not Likely) 

Post#15 » by jwise44 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:03 pm

nene would fit as a center here because of his offensive abilities, but defensively we would get killed unless scola went to the bench and hayes started...then our second unit with miller and scola would be even worse....maybe we could move scola for expirings and picks and have patty p as our second unit pf?

BUT i doubt nene leaves denver, by all articles ive read he seems to love denver and hes having a great year



i really want a center that fits adelmans system...does anyone think vlade divac can still play?
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Post#16 » by TMACFORMVP » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:08 pm

I agree with Baller, Nene, while a very good center, and clearly better than anyone on our roster in that regard, he doesn't solve our problems. At best, he's a good man defender, but not someone that has the potential to anchor our defense. And yeah, I think we can put a little of that blame on Adelman as well, sure we don't have the personnel, but our defense is outright horrendous, we don't rotate, give up easy buckets in transition, and our execution on that end, especially in end of game situations (even offensively) is horrible. This team has bigger problems that needs to be solved than getting Nene.
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Re: [Wiretap] Rockets Want Nene (But Trade Not Likely) 

Post#17 » by Kal El » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:39 am

don't want nene. he's not worth it unless we don't actually give up alot...

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