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[NY Times Blog] The Curious Case of Chuck Hayes

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:15 pm
by TMU
Of all the triple-doubles that have been recorded this season, Houston forward Chuck Hayes’s has to be considered one of the most unlikely. Hayes recorded 14 rebounds and a stunning 11 assists against the notoriously defense-adverse Golden State Warriors, and he sealed the triple-double with a jumper in the fourth quarter.

The triple-double was more of an amusing outlier than a true signature performance for Hayes; after all, the Warriors do allow the highest ratio of assisted baskets in the league, and they have the worst rebounding rate in the league, so racking up rebounds and assists against the Warriors is not a particularly difficult challenge. But the triple-double does draw attention to the fact that Hayes has quietly turned himself into a respectable offensive player.

Chuck Hayes has long been a subject of fascination for both scouts and the statistically inclined. When Hayes first began playing for the Rockets during the 2005-6 season, the 6-foot-6 center was regarded as an oddity whose amazing prowess for grabbing rebounds allowed him to be a rotation player.

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Re: [NY Times Blog] The Curious Case of Chuck Hayes

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:18 pm
by TMU
Chron Article

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/spo ... 92901.html

As much as things have changed, Rockets coach Rick Adelman laughs during the introductions. In a way, that might be a change, too. Laughing is better than crying.

"I kind of crack up," he said. "Every night they announce the starting lineup and our last guy is 6-6 center Chuck Hayes. The guy has gotten better and better and better. This year, he is playing both ends of the court. He's a factor at both ends. You have to give him tremendous credit."
As unlikely as the Rockets' playoff push has been, more stunning has been that one of the keys has been Hayes' sudden offensive prowess.

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"It's funny to me," said Hayes, 27, of the sudden wave of attention that came with his triple-double Wednesday. "I think about it, the attention, and I just think about my upbringing and how I came into this game as undrafted, in the D-League and on a 10-day (contract) — just my story. I think about the long road that it took to get that."

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Re: [NY Times Blog] The Curious Case of Chuck Hayes

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:33 pm
by Kal El
good read! chuck has grown into one of my favorite rockets of all time.

Re: [NY Times Blog] The Curious Case of Chuck Hayes

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:23 pm
by College Boy
THE MUTHA F***IN WAGON!!!!!!!!

Re: [NY Times Blog] The Curious Case of Chuck Hayes

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:09 pm
by Mr. E
Good to see Chuck getting some notice outside of Houston.

He deserves the Most Improved Player award.

He also deserves to be on the All-Defense Team.

A buddy of mine who's a Knicks fan told me the other day that they would sign Chuck for about 3 years, 6 million.

(6 million total over three years...I don't think he understands just how much we value Chuck! :lol: )

Re: [NY Times Blog] The Curious Case of Chuck Hayes

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:55 pm
by Optimism Prime
Mr. E wrote:Good to see Chuck getting some notice outside of Houston.


Yes.

He deserves the Most Improved Player award.


No. Sorry, but no. Kevin Love gets that (in my opinion).

He also deserves to be on the All-Defense Team.


Yes. Absolutely.

A buddy of mine who's a Knicks fan


:nonono:

told me the other day that they would sign Chuck for about 3 years, 6 million.

(6 million total over three years...I don't think he understands just how much we value Chuck! :lol: )


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah. Chuck isn't going anywhere unless someone DRASTICALLY overpays him Rashard style.
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Re: [NY Times Blog] The Curious Case of Chuck Hayes

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:12 pm
by texasholdem
Still this media attention will probably drive up his market value price. Nice for Chuck. Not good for the Rockets.

I'm betting the Warriors make him an offer. He just had a 3double on them. He grew up in Modesto which isn't too far from Oakland. He would compliment David Lee pretty well.

Re: [NY Times Blog] The Curious Case of Chuck Hayes

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:33 pm
by rocketsballin
ya we should keep hayes on the hush till we sign him to a long contract. stash him somewhere in the basement

Re: [NY Times Blog] The Curious Case of Chuck Hayes

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:21 pm
by Guy986
Chuck receiving more national attention. Don't know if thats a good thing. He'll be tougher to resign.

Re: [NY Times Blog] The Curious Case of Chuck Hayes

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:33 pm
by texasholdem
Thought it was ironic that Blake Griffin had his first career triple double the same night as Chuck did.

Re: [NY Times Blog] The Curious Case of Chuck Hayes

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:38 pm
by College Boy
Guy986 wrote:Chuck receiving more national attention. Don't know if thats a good thing. He'll be tougher to resign.

What's with the sig, did you lose a bet or something? :lol:
texasholdem wrote:Thought it was ironic that Blake Griffin had his first career triple double the same night as Chuck did.

How is that ironic?

Re: [NY Times Blog] The Curious Case of Chuck Hayes

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:19 am
by KiDdFrESh
With Yao's future unsure. I highly DOUBT Chuck goes anywhere. Houston gave him a home in the NBA. Why leave? I think he's too comfortable here.

Re: [NY Times Blog] The Curious Case of Chuck Hayes

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:26 am
by texasholdem
College Boy wrote:
Guy986 wrote:Chuck receiving more national attention. Don't know if thats a good thing. He'll be tougher to resign.

What's with the sig, did you lose a bet or something? :lol:
texasholdem wrote:Thought it was ironic that Blake Griffin had his first career triple double the same night as Chuck did.

How is that ironic?


Like rain on your wedding day. just kidding. I mean Blake is the most hyped player and Chuck is the least hyped yet they both achieved a triple double the same night, although Blake had double overtime to get his while Chuck only had regulation. Maybe ironic is not the best word.