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Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:15 pm
by manun
Before everyone starts puking. There are rumours that he wants out of GSW.
I actually think he could fit in the team even thought I understand if hes a big nono.
But seeing how k-mart really doesnt require the ball to get his points and what we are lacking is a big time scorer I think Ellis wouldnt be that bad option.
A combination of:
Thabeet (or Hill) + C.lee + Lowry + first round pick would probably net us Ellis without any problems.
Yao (if we resign him cheap) / Hayes / Donatas / Hill
Scola / Patterson/ Hill
Morris/ Budinger/ Williams / Parson
K-mart / Dragic / Williams
Ellis / Flynn / Dragic
With K-mart + Ellis we would get 40 + point production and if Yao is healthy 15 points. Scola will also get his points seeing how his game is not being ball dominant.
Defense would be a problem, but if Yao focuses on defense instead of offense it wouldnt be that horrible.
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:21 pm
by Aaron Brooks
Whose gonna run the team? I wouldn't trade one of the best contracts in the NBA (Lowry) for a knucklehead like Monte
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:32 pm
by H-town
this is a joke right ?
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:10 pm
by texasholdem
I don't think GSW wants Lowry if they have Curry already.
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:50 pm
by rdehonney
texasholdem wrote:I don't think GSW wants Lowry if they have Curry already.
excatly. I actually don't think it would be that bad of a trade if k-mart wasn't garbage on defense. The reason why the warriors need to get rid of steph or montae is because they're a liability on the defensive end when they play together. It would be the same way in Houston. I think montae is a very good player who gets a lot of undeserved hate but I think while he gives us the go to scorer we need he adds to the weakness we already have on defense.....
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:11 pm
by rocketsballin
especially w/o adelman, we're gonna need someone who can run the offense. monta is a sg, can make some plays but not a true pg.
also there should be a defensive starting sf if monta is starting sg since he's undersized
also monta/martin in the backcourt would give the opposing guards career highs.
monta's a baller but he doesnt fit our team well.
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:12 pm
by moofs
ok, off the top of your head, name every team thats ever won a championship with a me-first scoring point guard who doesnt play defense, an efficient sg who doesnt play defense, and a nice 3rd option pf who doesnt play defense.
i'll start.
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:13 pm
by rocketsballin
moofs wrote:ok, off the top of your head, name every team thats ever won a championship with a me-first scoring point guard who doesnt play defense, an efficient sg who doesnt play defense, and a nice 3rd option pf who doesnt play defense.
i'll start.
and let me finish.
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:38 pm
by moofs
Seriously though, Kyle is better than Ellis, and on a cheaper contract.
I'd also rather have Martin than Ellis, in spite of thinking that Martin needs to be moved.
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:57 pm
by rdehonney
moofs wrote:ok, off the top of your head, name every team thats ever won a championship with a me-first scoring point guard who doesnt play defense, an efficient sg who doesnt play defense, and a nice 3rd option pf who doesnt play defense.
i'll start.
don't worry.... I'LL WAIT! Lmao @ this moofs, real talk though.....
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:02 pm
by Optimism Prime
moofs wrote:ok, off the top of your head, name every team thats ever won a championship with a me-first scoring point guard who doesnt play defense, an efficient sg who doesnt play defense, and a nice 3rd option pf who doesnt play defense.
i'll start.
Reminds me of Ted, in How I Met Your Mother.
"Here's the list of things my dad and I talk about: Baseball,..."
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:19 pm
by LarsV8
Ellis is trash, don't want him.
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:29 pm
by manun
I dont think Ellis is really trash...
Dude can ball, I know his D is the main concern but you think we could get anything better without losing the whole team. I like Lowry, I think hes a top 15 PG without doubt but the main concern is that our team needs consistent scoring and we only get it from kmart which also is injury prone.
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:38 pm
by Don Draper
Hell no.
Monta Ellis
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:05 am
by pumpfakeforprez
Don Draper wrote:Hell no.
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:37 am
by texasholdem
Monta is a much better defender than K-Mart but a much worse free throw shooter
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:43 am
by M4P
texasholdem wrote:Monta is a much better defender than K-Mart but a much worse free throw shooter
Not really saying much there
.
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:55 am
by texasholdem
Well I'm saying you would be saving opponents points but losing your own points from missed FT's so it's probably a push between the two.
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:01 am
by M4P
texasholdem wrote:Well I'm saying you would be saving opponents points but losing your own points from missed FT's so it's probably a push between the two.
Monta isn't great on D so I don't know where you're getting that from. He regularly gets abused by bigger, stronger guards.
Re: Monta Ellis
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:12 am
by moofs
manun wrote:I dont think Ellis is really trash...
Dude can ball, I know his D is the main concern but you think we could get anything better without losing the whole team. I like Lowry, I think hes a top 15 PG without doubt but the main concern is that our team needs consistent scoring and we only get it from kmart which also is injury prone.
the problem isnt our scoring... its our rebounding and defense. those two fix scoring far better than getting more scorers...