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New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career 

Post#1 » by Guy986 » Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:19 am

"Rip-through" moves, in which an offensive player swings the ball into a defender's outstretched arm and then attempts a shot once he has created contact, will be considered non-shooting fouls if the contact begins before the offensive player starts his shooting motion.

Also, on drives to the basket, a shooting foul will be called only if contact occurs after the offensive player has begun his shooting motion, not after he has initiated his leap toward the basket.

"Certain types of contact involving the shooter were all being called in his favor," Jackson said. "It doesn't look good for the game. There was a strong feeling that those types of plays were creating an ill-advised reward for the shooter, often with three free throws."

The league will also make traveling in the post and on the perimeter a point of emphasis, with a player hopping off of and landing on the same foot viewed as an automatic violation. Referees will also consider locking or clamping an opponent's arm or hand under the basket while battling for a rebound and discontinued or hesitation dribbles as automatic violations.


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Youu take away the Rip Through move. You take away some of his driving foul to the rim. You take away his pumpfake then jump into defender move. You call traveling more often in the perimeter. Kevin Martin loses 30% of his offense. :cry:
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Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career 

Post#2 » by TMU » Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:46 am

Good. Less "Phantom Kobe" and "5-step LeBron" calls.
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Post#3 » by rocketsballin » Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:10 am

time to trade his ass /greenfont
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Post#4 » by HTown_TMac » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:11 am

rocketsballin wrote:time to trade his ass

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Post#5 » by rocketsballin » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:52 am

hey, you never know. maybe he finally figured out how to successfully execute a single dribble between his legs
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Post#6 » by MaxRider » Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:26 pm

you still shoot FT on the 5th team foul
if he can draw enough foul still FT for him
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Post#7 » by Kal El » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:12 pm

this might affect Martin but trust me, Kobe and Lebron will not be affected at all. Superstar calls ftw!
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Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career 

Post#8 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Dec 9, 2011 6:29 pm

I'd prefer no calls on 80% of block/charge situations. Offensive players need to learn the short pull up J and the defenders need to learn to contest a shot. Winging your body into defenders isnt baskeball, nor is the defender turning himself into an orange cone on defense. (imo)

regardless, Martin will adjust. He's not a one trick pony, he's just smart enough to maximize based on the situation.
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Post#9 » by thinktank » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:25 pm

What would it take for the TWolves to acquire Martin?

The deal that has been cited is Wesley Johnson, Nikola Pekovic, Luke Ridnour, and the Utah or Memphis pick.

If we'd have to substitute Beasley for Johnson in this deal, we may not pull the trigger.

Just curious. Most of us think Martin would work very well next to Rubio on the offensive end, but not so much on defense. However, we're already atrocious on defense.
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Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career 

Post#10 » by texasholdem » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:15 pm

thinktank wrote:What would it take for the TWolves to acquire Martin?

The deal that has been cited is Wesley Johnson, Nikola Pekovic, Luke Ridnour, and the Utah or Memphis pick.

If we'd have to substitute Beasley for Johnson in this deal, we may not pull the trigger.

Just curious. Most of us think Martin would work very well next to Rubio on the offensive end, but not so much on defense. However, we're already atrocious on defense.


No to Ridnour and his long contract. We already have a former T-Wolves point guard in Flynn.

Kevin Martin for Wes Johnson, Darko Milliic, Martell Webster (final year of contract) + a first rounder
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Post#11 » by thinktank » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:59 pm

texasholdem wrote:No to Ridnour and his long contract. We already have a former T-Wolves point guard in Flynn.

Kevin Martin for Wes Johnson, Darko Milliic, Martell Webster (final year of contract) + a first rounder


Interesting. Webster is out indefinitely with back surgery. Not sure we'd be ok with giving up Darko. Thus far, Adelman seems to like his defense.
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Post#12 » by jscott » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:38 pm

Pekovic makes more sense instead of Darko.

McHale drafted him and likes his inside scoring game.
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Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career 

Post#13 » by texasholdem » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:27 am

thinktank wrote:
texasholdem wrote:No to Ridnour and his long contract. We already have a former T-Wolves point guard in Flynn.

Kevin Martin for Wes Johnson, Darko Milliic, Martell Webster (final year of contract) + a first rounder


Interesting. Webster is out indefinitely with back surgery. Not sure we'd be ok with giving up Darko. Thus far, Adelman seems to like his defense.


it's Rick Adelman. I wouldn't be surprised if Brad Miller plays more minutes than Darko.
yeah I know Webster is out
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Post#14 » by aznkillabeezZz » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:15 am

More headaches for the Rockets. :-?
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Post#15 » by old rem » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:22 pm

The NBA needs to have call be basically just and logical and needs more guidelines,rather than refs who are empowered to invent the rules minute to minute.
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Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career 

Post#16 » by Guy986 » Wed Jan 4, 2012 5:59 am

Numbers of FT Attempt Kevin Martin averages since 07

2007: 9.5
2008: 10.3
2009: 7.4
2010: 8.4
2011: 2.8

tonight against the lakers: 1 free throw

We are so ****ed.
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Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career 

Post#17 » by TMU » Wed Jan 4, 2012 6:26 am

Guy986 wrote:Numbers of FT Attempt Kevin Martin averages since 07

2007: 9.5
2008: 10.3
2009: 7.4
2010: 8.4
2011: 2.8

tonight against the lakers: 1 free throw

We are so ****ed.


Trade his ass.
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Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career 

Post#18 » by Guy986 » Wed Jan 4, 2012 6:30 am

He played 40 minutes and shot the ball 17 times today and only got one free throw.

ONE FREE THROW

David Stern has successfully banned Kevin Martin from going to the ft line.
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Post#19 » by MaxRider » Wed Jan 4, 2012 6:42 am

Guy986 wrote:Numbers of FT Attempt Kevin Martin averages since 07

2007: 9.5
2008: 10.3
2009: 7.4
2010: 8.4
2011: 2.8

tonight against the lakers: 1 free throw

We are so ****ed.

that's technical free throw
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Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career 

Post#20 » by peja drobnjak » Thu Jan 5, 2012 4:18 am

this is friggin hilarious

i didn't watch the games, so is he actually going for moves and getting no-call after no-call?
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