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New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:19 am
by Guy986
"Rip-through" moves, in which an offensive player swings the ball into a defender's outstretched arm and then attempts a shot once he has created contact, will be considered non-shooting fouls if the contact begins before the offensive player starts his shooting motion.
Also, on drives to the basket, a shooting foul will be called only if contact occurs after the offensive player has begun his shooting motion, not after he has initiated his leap toward the basket.
"Certain types of contact involving the shooter were all being called in his favor," Jackson said. "It doesn't look good for the game. There was a strong feeling that those types of plays were creating an ill-advised reward for the shooter, often with three free throws."
The league will also make traveling in the post and on the perimeter a point of emphasis, with a player hopping off of and landing on the same foot viewed as an automatic violation. Referees will also consider locking or clamping an opponent's arm or hand under the basket while battling for a rebound and discontinued or hesitation dribbles as automatic violations.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/73295 ... ls-2011-12[/quote]
Youu take away the Rip Through move. You take away some of his driving foul to the rim. You take away his pumpfake then jump into defender move. You call traveling more often in the perimeter. Kevin Martin loses 30% of his offense.
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:46 am
by TMU
Good. Less "Phantom Kobe" and "5-step LeBron" calls.
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:10 am
by rocketsballin
time to trade his ass /greenfont
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:11 am
by HTown_TMac
rocketsballin wrote:time to trade his ass
fixed
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:52 am
by rocketsballin
hey, you never know. maybe he finally figured out how to successfully execute a single dribble between his legs
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:26 pm
by MaxRider
you still shoot FT on the 5th team foul
if he can draw enough foul still FT for him
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:12 pm
by Kal El
this might affect Martin but trust me, Kobe and Lebron will not be affected at all. Superstar calls ftw!
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Fri Dec 9, 2011 6:29 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
I'd prefer no calls on 80% of block/charge situations. Offensive players need to learn the short pull up J and the defenders need to learn to contest a shot. Winging your body into defenders isnt baskeball, nor is the defender turning himself into an orange cone on defense. (imo)
regardless, Martin will adjust. He's not a one trick pony, he's just smart enough to maximize based on the situation.
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:25 pm
by thinktank
What would it take for the TWolves to acquire Martin?
The deal that has been cited is Wesley Johnson, Nikola Pekovic, Luke Ridnour, and the Utah or Memphis pick.
If we'd have to substitute Beasley for Johnson in this deal, we may not pull the trigger.
Just curious. Most of us think Martin would work very well next to Rubio on the offensive end, but not so much on defense. However, we're already atrocious on defense.
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:15 pm
by texasholdem
thinktank wrote:What would it take for the TWolves to acquire Martin?
The deal that has been cited is Wesley Johnson, Nikola Pekovic, Luke Ridnour, and the Utah or Memphis pick.
If we'd have to substitute Beasley for Johnson in this deal, we may not pull the trigger.
Just curious. Most of us think Martin would work very well next to Rubio on the offensive end, but not so much on defense. However, we're already atrocious on defense.
No to Ridnour and his long contract. We already have a former T-Wolves point guard in Flynn.
Kevin Martin for Wes Johnson, Darko Milliic, Martell Webster (final year of contract) + a first rounder
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:59 pm
by thinktank
texasholdem wrote:No to Ridnour and his long contract. We already have a former T-Wolves point guard in Flynn.
Kevin Martin for Wes Johnson, Darko Milliic, Martell Webster (final year of contract) + a first rounder
Interesting. Webster is out indefinitely with back surgery. Not sure we'd be ok with giving up Darko. Thus far, Adelman seems to like his defense.
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:38 pm
by jscott
Pekovic makes more sense instead of Darko.
McHale drafted him and likes his inside scoring game.
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:27 am
by texasholdem
thinktank wrote:texasholdem wrote:No to Ridnour and his long contract. We already have a former T-Wolves point guard in Flynn.
Kevin Martin for Wes Johnson, Darko Milliic, Martell Webster (final year of contract) + a first rounder
Interesting. Webster is out indefinitely with back surgery. Not sure we'd be ok with giving up Darko. Thus far, Adelman seems to like his defense.
it's Rick Adelman. I wouldn't be surprised if Brad Miller plays more minutes than Darko.
yeah I know Webster is out
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:15 am
by aznkillabeezZz
More headaches for the Rockets.
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:22 pm
by old rem
The NBA needs to have call be basically just and logical and needs more guidelines,rather than refs who are empowered to invent the rules minute to minute.
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Wed Jan 4, 2012 5:59 am
by Guy986
Numbers of FT Attempt Kevin Martin averages since 07
2007: 9.5
2008: 10.3
2009: 7.4
2010: 8.4
2011: 2.8
tonight against the lakers: 1 free throw
We are so ****ed.
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Wed Jan 4, 2012 6:26 am
by TMU
Guy986 wrote:Numbers of FT Attempt Kevin Martin averages since 07
2007: 9.5
2008: 10.3
2009: 7.4
2010: 8.4
2011: 2.8
tonight against the lakers: 1 free throw
We are so ****ed.
Trade his ass.
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Wed Jan 4, 2012 6:30 am
by Guy986
He played 40 minutes and shot the ball 17 times today and only got one free throw.
ONE FREE THROW
David Stern has successfully banned Kevin Martin from going to the ft line.
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Wed Jan 4, 2012 6:42 am
by MaxRider
Guy986 wrote:Numbers of FT Attempt Kevin Martin averages since 07
2007: 9.5
2008: 10.3
2009: 7.4
2010: 8.4
2011: 2.8
tonight against the lakers: 1 free throw
We are so ****ed.
that's technical free throw
Re: New NBA rule set to ruin Kevin Martin's career
Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 4:18 am
by peja drobnjak
this is friggin hilarious
i didn't watch the games, so is he actually going for moves and getting no-call after no-call?