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Let's tank, this team isn't going anywhere. It's capable of getting 14th pick and make the playoffs, but we lack a superstar. Even if we miraculously make 2nd round, we won't make it further than the 2nd round. As much as I like Kmarts shooting ability,he's not an allstar that will takeover games, he gets worst in the 4th as the game gets more physical.

Hopefully Morey's genius by not resigning HOF coach Adelman and sign Mcfale, not locking up Best defender Hayes and signing Old overthehill Dalembert, will bring this team worst than years past. Hopefully far worst, so we can draft a decent player. Not A midget Marcus morris, or a mid tier ceiling player like Patrick Patterson... We need a Blake Griffin/rudy gay/rubio, TOP 6 pick. to save this franchise from mediocrity or being average.

Yea I think we all know this though. A lot of people on this board think we have so many assets but its obvious the nba doesn't agree or else we would have been able acquire more players. The way I see it there are two ways of becoming successful, the okc way or the la way. People don't want to come to Houston so we have to take the okc route. Superstars not only win games in the nba but they attract other stars even if the team isnt great. Paul came to the clips because of blake, lebron went to miami because of wade. We will be fine because morey is a good gm, its just his plan to stack assets and get a star didnt work because no one wants to play here...

Alright I am for Losing all games for here on out. Trade Martin and Scola for TPEs or expiring contracts and a First rounder.

Martin can go
Scola is staying
Patterson can learn some post move from Scola

you don't just tank
it take years to get lottery prospect and you have to get lucky that some workout for you to win

MaxRider wrote:Martin can go
Scola is staying
Patterson can learn some post move from Scola

you don't just tank
it take years to get lottery prospect and you have to get lucky that some workout for you to win

that's why you tank, the chances of getting "luckier" increases,,

aznkillabeezZz wrote:

MaxRider wrote:Martin can go
Scola is staying
Patterson can learn some post move from Scola

you don't just tank
it take years to get lottery prospect and you have to get lucky that some workout for you to win

that's why you tank, the chances of getting "luckier" increases,,

Max is right, look at all those teams in the lottery... the names are always so damn familiar you have to be extremely lucky to land a prospect that can pull you out of mediocrity.

We dont tank, man up why would you want to see us do that...

Oh and btw regarding your 1st post... you know WE drafted Rudy Gay right? Morey's genius traded him away, but i think the board is split on that decision. I think it was horrible.

I know everybody is looking for the best way on how to make the rockets better again but there really isn't much you can do. We don't really have the pieces to trade for a superstar and a superstar doesn't want to be in houston anyway. With the way the league is set up and the trend in the NBA, Houston is not in the mix as far as being competitive and building a solid roster.

Even if we do tank, think of the lost revenue towards houston and the probability of our draft pick and that the person we draft end up being a superstar.

Basically my point is, we just need to get lucky. There's no other way around it. As rockets fan we just have to be patient and accept the fact that we are going to be stuck at mediocrity for some time.

aznkillabeezZz wrote:

MaxRider wrote:Martin can go
Scola is staying
Patterson can learn some post move from Scola

you don't just tank
it take years to get lottery prospect and you have to get lucky that some workout for you to win

that's why you tank, the chances of getting "luckier" increases,,

i wont call it tank
it's giving more playing opportunity to your younger players
i been saying that for the last 2 seasons
Drummond is staying in school for sophomore year
so i don't care now

remember the best lottery prospect we had in the last 10 years are Yao and Gay
i been saying we should be better keeping Gay instead of trading for Battier
but you guys wanted defense over 3rd scoring option

Well there is still Barnes

I would have liked to kept Gay specially now but I think a bullet was dodge when got that ridiculous contract.

zapatasblood wrote:I would have liked to kept Gay specially now but I think a bullet was dodge when got that ridiculous contract.

martin's contract don't look so good either

yeah but it was traded for. Martin is a number two and paid like number two. Up to this season Martin has been very good. If you ask me who I want right now between Martin and Gay it would be Granger

If Gay had kept his statline solid with last year, and only fixed his rebounding numbers to where they are now... I'd finally think he was a pretty good NBA player (but still be happy with the trade, because Battier was consistently much better during the entire time we had him - plus one of the most awesome dudes in the NBA - you all know that the Battier Karaoke Fundraiser was like the best thing to happen to the NBA since Walt Frazier's fur coat collection).

Still hope he can round his shooting percentages back to last year's, it'd be good for Memphis.

Not sure when I started rooting for them... I'm thinking they were fun to watch in the playoffs one or two years ago.

Lol @ the granger talk as if he's living up to the hype. Even more of an lol @ battier>gay and all of the "good person" talk. You guys love the tough, gritty, locker room guys that are great mentors and blah blah blah. I love battier as much as the next rockets fan and I agree you need those glue guys, AFTER YOU ACQUIRE SUPERSTARS. Glue guys don't matter if you have no go to player, theres not one gm in the league that would've taken battier over gay if they knew how good of a player he would've become. To say he's not a star is one thing, to say he's not a "good player" is a joke and he's better than any wing we've had in YEARS not named t-mac.....

after u acquire superstars.. huh? that battier trade was AFTER we got tmac and yao. literally after their first season. we needed a wing defender WITH SIZE and we got that with shane.

unless u think tmac and yao weren't superstar players?

Morey has tried, (and Ultimately failed) To build a team that is Contender material, with the addition of "insert one Superstar here!"

We can't get a Superstar. And this is because we are consistently mediocre. I hate seeing us lose. But at the same time, if it means we can get a Superstar via the lottery, so be it. You have to admit it, we HAVE been reasonably lucky in terms of the Lottery balls falling our way. I am all for the tank option. Trade off Martin for Picks, I would prefer to Keep Scola, but if he goes, too bad.

Keep Lowry, everyone else can go if need be. Keep/Trade Bud or Parsons, Look to maybe move Dalembert at the Trade Deadline. 2 years in the lottery, we get good prospects, in 5 years, we are serious contenders.

It sucks that being terrible is rewarded, but we lose out to the upper echelon Markets all the time.

Time to King Tiger in a big way.

First one who should be traded is Kevin Martin and his horrible contract, they say the Wolves want him, trade him for Beasley or Derrick Williams.

Also Rockets should take advantage now that Lowry has plenty of value and trade him. Trade everyone for high picks and in 3 years we will be able to compete seriously.

rocketsballin wrote:after u acquire superstars.. huh? that battier trade was AFTER we got tmac and yao. literally after their first season. we needed a wing defender WITH SIZE and we got that with shane.

unless u think tmac and yao weren't superstar players?

No they definitely were but I hear so much talk about people on here still wanting all these"glue guys" now and my whole point those type of players really show their value when they are put on teams that already have good players....

MOREY IS NOT A GENIUS LOOK AT OUR TEAM IS A JOKE

I ALSO WANT A HIGH PICK TOP 5

BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN WERE GETTING A SUPERSTAR LIKE LEBRON WADE DROSE DURANT WE HAVE THE 2009 2ND DRAFT PICK IN THABEET AND HE S U C K S

IAM SCARED WE GET A HIGH PICK AND THEY TRADE THE PICK FOR A PLAYER LIKE THEY DID WITH GAY AND BATTIER FOR EXAMPLE WE GET THE 4 PICK IN THE 2012 AND THEY TRADE THE PICK AND SCOLA FOR PAU GASOL OR ANDREW BOGUT

ALSO SCARES ME IF WE GET A HIGH PICK AND SELECT A PLAYER THAT IS A GOOD PLAYER BUT NOT GREAT LIKE BARGANANI FOR RAPTORS EVANS KINGS WALL WIZARDS AND THE ROCKETS DECIDE TO BUILT A TEAM AROUND HIM

IN A PERFECT WORLD WE TRADE SCOLA MARTIN FOR EXPIRING CONTRACTS
PLAY REALLY BAD THE REST OF THE SEASON AND GET THE 1ST PICK IN THE LOTTO
SIGN DHOWARD, DWILLIAMS AND GARNETT DURING THE OFF SEASON
AND FORM A BIG 4

rocketsballin wrote:after u acquire superstars.. huh? that battier trade was AFTER we got tmac and yao. literally after their first season. we needed a wing defender WITH SIZE and we got that with shane.

unless u think tmac and yao weren't superstar players?

Um soo defender with size is better than a legit 3rd scorer which was more of a need imo than a wing defender...

On top of that it wasn't like Gay was a slouch on defense in College, and he has been a good defender in the pros anyway.

I mean how often do you see that kind of trade?

and the funny thing is if we got Brandon Roy, Morey would of kept the pick.

Admit it that was a failed trade, and Morey f'ed up big time.