Lowry trade

LongLiveIverson · Post #1 » by **LongLiveIverson** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 12:30 am

Kings fan here. Dragic is playing amazing assuming you guys are able to retain him would you be interested in this deal...Lowry your first and Dalembert for Marcus Thornton (19ppg) Isaiah Thomas and a first (5-6th). If you move Kevin Martin for a big like Al Jefferson or Milsap I think it would be a good trade. Thornton is an upgrade over Martin, Isaiah would be a great backup to Dragic. With the first your in position to draft an impact player like Drummond, Barnes or Sullinger. Along with Sciola, and your deep roatation at SF this makes your roster better.

zapatasblood · Post #2 » by **zapatasblood** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 12:42 am

Yeah I am of the opinion that Lowry is worth 5th

Alex I Be · Post #3 » by **Alex I Be** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 1:38 am

Not interested in Thornton. Hes a gunner. Give me Demarcus Cousin, Chuck Wagon, and Isaiah Thomas for Lowry, Dalembert and Pepsi Scola.

Marlo Stanfield · Post #4 » by **Marlo Stanfield** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 2:07 am

Not to take away from the OP, but I'd like to know what you'd be looking for from a Toronto perspective as well for Lowry.

HTown_TMac · Post #5 » by **HTown_TMac** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 2:11 am

Actually this is not a bad trade, even though I would want to keep Dally..

Isiah Thomas is an excellent backup, Marcus Thorton gives us another scorer, and the pick will get us someone nice.. or even give us a better chance to move up when combined with the knicks pick.

Even though I'd try and trade Thorton and/or Martin for depth.

Kal El · Post #6 » by **Kal El** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 3:21 am

Thomas would make a good back up point guard. Thornton would make for a great 6th man. offensive spark off the bench. I really like the defense Kyle Lowry brings but Dragic is a startring quality point guard and trading Lowry would bring in a 5-6 pick then yeah i think we would have to pull the trigger. Then we would still have Kevin Martin and/or Scola to possibly move up in the draft or make another separate move.

Zubby · Post #7 » by **Zubby** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 3:24 am

Yea decent trade but I would prefer Cousins over anything else.

Nothing from Toronto I think we would want.

zapatasblood · Post #8 » by **zapatasblood** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 3:28 am

Marlo Stanfield wrote:Not to take away from the OP, but I'd like to know what you'd be looking for from a Toronto perspective as well for Lowry.

Your pick and that would be about it

Marlo Stanfield · Post #9 » by **Marlo Stanfield** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 3:35 am

zapatasblood wrote:
Marlo Stanfield wrote:Not to take away from the OP, but I'd like to know what you'd be looking for from a Toronto perspective as well for Lowry.

Your pick and that would be about it

Me personally, I'm down.

texasholdem · Post #10 » by **texasholdem** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 4:30 am

Marlo Stanfield wrote:Not to take away from the OP, but I'd like to know what you'd be looking for from a Toronto perspective as well for Lowry.

Jonas or nothing.

Marlo Stanfield · Post #11 » by **Marlo Stanfield** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 4:36 am

texasholdem wrote:
Marlo Stanfield wrote:Not to take away from the OP, but I'd like to know what you'd be looking for from a Toronto perspective as well for Lowry.

Jonas or nothing.

LOL that's too much, I'd say nothing if that were the price.

MaxRider · Post #12 » by **MaxRider** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 5:41 am

not interest
we can go small with Lowry+Dragic+Lee+Parsons

LongLiveIverson · Post #13 » by **LongLiveIverson** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 7:08 pm

I was thinking something like this
Kyle Lowry, Courtney Lee, Sammy Dalembert, 15th pick For Marcus Thornton, Isaiah Thomas, John Salmons and the 5th pick.

With the 5th pick you will most surely beable to get either Harrison Barnes or possibly Andre Drummond..If Barnes is the pick you can look for a veteran center such as Chris Kamen. Bring back Camby to reunite him with Kamen from their Clipper days. Then look to dump Kevin Martin somewhere. With the 2nd first draft a defensive minded guard like Dion Waiters to replace Lee.

C. Kamen/Camby
F. Sciola/Patterson
F. Barnes/Parsons/Morris
G. Thornton/Waiters
G. Dragic/I.Thomas

If Drummond your roster would look something like..

C. Drummond/Camby
F. Sciola/Patterson
F. Parsons/Morris
G. Thornton/Waiters
G. Dragic/I.Thomas

Regardless each team is better than what you have now. Assuming you move Martin, you have the perfect combination of defensive players, shooters and playmakers on your roster. With a team built with great "parts" its logical to move a few to acquire that difference maker such as Barnes or Drummond

rocketseagles07 · Post #14 » by **rocketseagles07** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 7:38 pm

LongLiveIverson wrote:I was thinking something like this
Kyle Lowry, Courtney Lee, Sammy Dalembert, 15th pick For Marcus Thornton, Isaiah Thomas, John Salmons and the 5th pick.

With the 5th pick you will most surely beable to get either Harrison Barnes or possibly Andre Drummond..If Barnes is the pick you can look for a veteran center such as Chris Kamen. Bring back Camby to reunite him with Kamen from their Clipper days. Then look to dump Kevin Martin somewhere. With the 2nd first draft a defensive minded guard like Dion Waiters to replace Lee.

C. Kamen/Camby
F. Sciola/Patterson
F. Barnes/Parsons/Morris
G. Thornton/Waiters
G. Dragic/I.Thomas

If Drummond your roster would look something like..

C. Drummond/Camby
F. Sciola/Patterson
F. Parsons/Morris
G. Thornton/Waiters
G. Dragic/I.Thomas

Regardless each team is better than what you have now. Assuming you move Martin, you have the perfect combination of defensive players, shooters and playmakers on your roster. With a team built with great "parts" its logical to move a few to acquire that difference maker such as Barnes or Drummond

Ummmm no. Not only does our teams scoring get worse, our perimeter defending gets A LOT worse. Taking Drummond/Barnes is a risk because both of them are high risk/high reward(especially drummond.) Plus I doubt Barnes would even start ahead of Parsons anyways. Thorton is better suited as a spark/scorer off the bench imo. If we move lowry we need to move him for a very good player/star/or an upgrade at pg. The only person I would even think about getting in return for a lowry/lee package is Cousins and I don't see why either side would make that trade.

Z3snap wrote:Yea decent trade but I would prefer Cousins over anything else.

Nothing from Toronto I think we would want.

basically...................

x- · Post #15 » by x- » Mon Apr 9, 2012 8:54 pm

Lowry for Cousins, yes.

Lowry for Jonas V, yes.

We'd probably be open to adding a sweetner or two as well.

Lowry for Raptors or Kings pick? Maybe, but probably not.

Taking back a toxic contract (Salmons) in any Lowry trade? No.

Marlo Stanfield · Post #16 » by **Marlo Stanfield** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 8:59 pm

I'd be willing to go the Raptors pick + Ed Davis OR Amir Johnson. Jonas is a keeper though as you guys will understand because we haven't even seen what he can do yet.

x- · Post #17 » by x- » Mon Apr 9, 2012 9:06 pm

Oh I understand.

The Rockets had Valanciunas #2 on their board last year.

Kal El · Post #18 » by **Kal El** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 9:07 pm

LongLiveIverson wrote:I was thinking something like this
Kyle Lowry, Courtney Lee, Sammy Dalembert, 15th pick For Marcus Thornton, Isaiah Thomas, John Salmons and the 5th pick.

With the 5th pick you will most surely beable to get either Harrison Barnes or possibly Andre Drummond..If Barnes is the pick you can look for a veteran center such as Chris Kamen. Bring back Camby to reunite him with Kamen from their Clipper days. Then look to dump Kevin Martin somewhere. With the 2nd first draft a defensive minded guard like Dion Waiters to replace Lee.

C. Kamen/Camby
F. Sciola/Patterson
F. Barnes/Parsons/Morris
G. Thornton/Waiters
G. Dragic/I.Thomas

If Drummond your roster would look something like..

C. Drummond/Camby
F. Sciola/Patterson
F. Parsons/Morris
G. Thornton/Waiters
G. Dragic/I.Thomas

Regardless each team is better than what you have now. Assuming you move Martin, you have the perfect combination of defensive players, shooters and playmakers on your roster. With a team built with great "parts" its logical to move a few to acquire that difference maker such as Barnes or Drummond

that's a horrible trade for houston. Thornton doesn't make our team better. he would only be serviceable as a scorer off the bench if we still have Lee starting. Isiah Thomas would be a good back up point, but then we would have to take on Salmons. We lose Both Lowry and Lee our best defenders at guard. Its just not a good trade for houston. i know the idea is Lowry for the 5th pick but as a whole, its horrible.

The only way Houston trades Lowry is for a big trade, like a superstar or for the Kings it would take Cousins. Other than that, houston is better off keeping a rotation with Lowry-Dragic-Lee.

Marlo Stanfield · Post #19 » by **Marlo Stanfield** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 9:22 pm

x- wrote:Oh I understand.

The Rockets had Valanciunas #2 on their board last year.

Exactly. And the thing about Big Val is that he might have went #1 if there was no question about his buyout. Maybe Kyrie would've still been the guy, but Val was right up there talent wise. Many people say he would be the consensus #2 pick if he were in the 2012 draft.

texasholdem · Post #20 » by **texasholdem** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 11:39 pm

Marlo Stanfield wrote:
x- wrote:Oh I understand.

The Rockets had Valanciunas #2 on their board last year.

Exactly. And the thing about Big Val is that he might have went #1 if there was no question about his buyout. Maybe Kyrie would've still been the guy, but Val was right up there talent wise. Many people say he would be the consensus #2 pick if he were in the 2012 draft.

Cleveland had two chances to draft him and passed both times.